Game Theory: Did Dream FAKE His Speedrun? A Final Analysis.

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    There has been a controversy brewing on the Minecraft side of KRplus centered around well known Minecraft creator Dream. He's been accused of faking his speedrun and it has caused a lot of stir. I'm not here to point fingers or accuse anyone. What I'm doing today, Theorists, is going over the facts of this situation and why it is a lot more complicated than people are making it out to be.
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  • @gghostin
    @gghostin 3 년 전 +3870

    Everyone: “Did dream cheat?”
    Matpat: “So going back to fnaf and the bite of 87...”

  • @DecipheringAngel
    @DecipheringAngel 3 년 전 +3369

    *“Cool, but did Dream cheat?”*
    MatPat: “So anyways, I started advertising”

    • @crystalkirlia4553
      @crystalkirlia4553 3 년 전 +37

      It seems at around 17:04 there are a few words flashing on the screen... part of a GT ARG game maybe? Idk, I'm not smart enough to play them but if anyone else does, I hope this helps.
      What I got so far:
      Edit: PMFM LIB IFYF HEX EBUB

    • @darkflightdreamer1698
      @darkflightdreamer1698 3 년 전 +3

      @@crystalkirlia4553 olk

    • @ElJefe-ol9ow
      @ElJefe-ol9ow 3 년 전 +3

      🤣🤣

    • @SparkyFolf
      @SparkyFolf 3 년 전 +4

      @@crystalkirlia4553 what do you mean, I see 2 guys and DATA, there are some random symbols raining down in the bakgrund though

    • @holywizard6945
      @holywizard6945 3 년 전 +13

      Stop searching, everything say YES.
      And it's just before it's too frustrating to play a game for millennia waiting for luck.

  • @Dang.-
    @Dang.- 년 전 +2725

    Everyone: Did he cheat?
    Matpat: "The divorce rates in Maine are caused by the consumption of margarine"

  • @derkatzenmensch220
    @derkatzenmensch220 2 년 전 +1438

    "did he cheat?"
    Mat : im just a theorist, no astrophysicist

  • @jonahweisbrod3978
    @jonahweisbrod3978 3 년 전 +2214

    Everyone: "Did dream cheat"
    Matpat: "and this is why 6 is afraid of 7"

  • @MDPOPE
    @MDPOPE 3 년 전 +4436

    "Did Dream Cheat?"
    "well, gambling sucks, just make a tourney"

    • @aeleequis
      @aeleequis 3 년 전 +49

      simply made the nether regionals, it's pretty a cool tournament of minecraft 1.16 races

    • @mcskrzypek
      @mcskrzypek 3 년 전 +80

      exactly. First dislike I have ever given to this channel.

    • @CharlyOmega
      @CharlyOmega 3 년 전 +2

      @UCsT8jU9tH7bRt7qA-VZ3NTA wtf
      Edit: he said we should just kill dream

    • @willhholland
      @willhholland 3 년 전 +33

      lmaoo
      *DID DREAM CHEAT?*
      idk but tourney speed runs sound way better...

    • @waddlesbell7457
      @waddlesbell7457 3 년 전 +65

      I unironically agree with this. All “arguments” against him only shows how hard it is to believe and not how much he cheated. They fail to acknowledge that rounding probability to 0 is never good.
      This is what happens if you ignore the existence of the small possibilities.

  • @User24x
    @User24x 2 년 전 +2132

    Now that Dream confessed to cheating, I think it's clear why MatPat avoided making a conclusion: He knew the math said that it was very likely that Dream cheated but didn't want to conclude that since he knew Dream.

  • @rowanravindran8029
    @rowanravindran8029 년 전 +1154

    Everyone: "Did Dream cheat?"
    Matpat: "Yesn't"

    • @yesnt872
      @yesnt872 년 전 +8

      lol

    • @cancernooblol7031
      @cancernooblol7031 년 전 +17

      He just doesnt want to get cancelled or go into drama,my man i am sorry if you are sad if he did not ans

    • @ravio5868
      @ravio5868 년 전 +3

      Dream: Yes

    • @beyondwilline3634
      @beyondwilline3634 9 개월 전 +3

      Matpat loves dream's creme

    • @CEK14
      @CEK14 8 개월 전 +1

      Flipping a coin, 100 times and getting 60+

  • @janb.3600
    @janb.3600 3 년 전 +7707

    Everyone: "So did Dream cheat or not??"
    Matpat: "The only winning move is not to answer."

    • @Guztav1337
      @Guztav1337 3 년 전 +124

      The best video covering this, is the video "how lucky is too lucky" by Matt Parker a professional math communicator.

    • @the_codex4449
      @the_codex4449 3 년 전 +43

      I think it's best not to give an exact answer leaving us, the viewers, to fill in the blanks.

    • @pika3207
      @pika3207 3 년 전 +22

      Cuz dream stans

    • @calebgarage4254
      @calebgarage4254 3 년 전 +29

      The evidence says he did but he IS Matpats friend so he probably wouldn’t say it

    • @the_codex4449
      @the_codex4449 3 년 전 +18

      @@calebgarage4254 in my opinion it’s best to not share opinions that may lead to being used later in your life as evidence you’re a bad person so. Even more if you are one of the best characters in an animated show

  • @GrahamBV
    @GrahamBV 3 년 전 +2625

    Us: "Hey MatPat, did you think Dream cheated?"
    MatPat: Competetitve Minecraft is pretty cool

    • @joshwhite2660
      @joshwhite2660 3 년 전 +5

      yes

    • @joshwhite2660
      @joshwhite2660 3 년 전 +6

      this is wat he said

    • @DoubtlessCar0
      @DoubtlessCar0 3 년 전 +19

      @@joshwhite2660 I'm confused, did you say "yes Dream cheated" and that someone with authority proved that, or "Yes, MatPat did basically just say that"?

    • @diamentus3774
      @diamentus3774 3 년 전 +5

      I don't know why but competitive minecraft gives me some TF2 vibes

    • @goroakechi6126
      @goroakechi6126 3 년 전 +3

      @@diamentus3774
      It’s the Casual/competitive debate all over again.

  • @averageracistperson525
    @averageracistperson525 2 년 전 +192

    theres a reason why he did not answer. he does not want to lie, and he does not wanna to get continusly harassed by dream stans.

    • @tobyisdagoat1270
      @tobyisdagoat1270 2 년 전 +1

      Lie?

    • @SRI_IRS
      @SRI_IRS 4 개월 전 +22

      @@tobyisdagoat1270those were his two options lie, and say dream was legit, or say he cheated, and get harassed

  • @HiIAmSpirit1
    @HiIAmSpirit1 년 전 +74

    Everyone: Did Dream cheat?
    Dream: No
    Speedrunning team: Yes
    MatPat: Says everything but the answer
    Dream later: Yes, but it was an ACCIDENT
    Everyone: So... did Dream cheat?

  • @nathanlee7194
    @nathanlee7194 3 년 전 +7416

    Viewers: "Did he cheat or not?"
    Matpat: "Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell."

    • @senzasmentalissues474
      @senzasmentalissues474 3 년 전 +56

      Thank you for this

    • @Commando_scylla
      @Commando_scylla 3 년 전 +13

      See matpat cant get any actual evidence hes a chicken

    • @nathanlee7194
      @nathanlee7194 3 년 전 +142

      @@Commando_scylla I think he just didn’t want to insult Dream because he has a massive army of stans that would raid all of his videos.

    • @pavdgalaxy1965
      @pavdgalaxy1965 3 년 전 +36

      @@Commando_scylla it’s a theory, if you didn’t know LOL. But if you changed a necessary drop to 50% drop rate. You would have a higher chance at submitting a ru whilst getting 0% of the drops than 100% of the drops, even though they have EQUAL chances of dropping. In the stream the SINGLE moderator (who is coincidently banned from the speedrun staff community) erased over 100 failed runs that dream used, which makes his drop rate the same as illuminas, 40%. BUT that mod cherry picked the targeted runs on 1.16 which came to a false conclusion of a very high chance (7.5 trillion). It’s also verified that the moderator DID cherry pick all of Dreams suspicious activities and removed all of his VERIFIED information and runs.

    • @erikgutierrez5265
      @erikgutierrez5265 3 년 전 +21

      @@Commando_scylla Wouldn't say chicken since he answered the question if as the audience you still didn't interpret maybe its not him who didn't get evidence, but rather you just not understanding more importantly in the intro he said "I'm not answering the cheating but rather to provide information" I mean if you didn't get a better understanding of this then sorry bud if I missed the first part

  • @Queen_Club
    @Queen_Club 3 년 전 +22413

    For those who want the answer: He doesn’t give a answer

    • @wrldbestistaken
      @wrldbestistaken 3 년 전 +489

      Ctrl-c
      Ctrl-v

    • @elbenezermirabuena7755
      @elbenezermirabuena7755 3 년 전 +125

      Copied

    • @mikedanielespeja6128
      @mikedanielespeja6128 3 년 전 +779

      What's the problem if this message is copied? It's too vague and common of a thing to say in a video like this for it to matter whether or not it's copied. Queen's club is just warning others.

    • @YouGot2BeKitten
      @YouGot2BeKitten 3 년 전 +504

      Anyone who thought MatPat of all people would even have any clue what he was talking about when it came to this topic anyway is clueless to begin with. All the experts on the subject say Dream cheated. So Dream cheated. That’s really all it comes down to.

    • @simplyfitness892
      @simplyfitness892 3 년 전 +253

      @@YouGot2BeKitten no matts great at maths and is fully capable he just proved that, he just showed dream cheated without stating that he cheated idk why probs to avoid the drama side a bit? Not sure but that don’t mean he’s clueless.

  • @JustTryingToChillOut
    @JustTryingToChillOut 11 개월 전 +37

    "So, did Dream actually cheat?"
    MatPat: "We do know that quantum physics is very important for the understanding of the universe"

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233

    He found knowledge in being a professor. But MatPat found more in talking about video games.

  • @pgainor6465
    @pgainor6465 3 년 전 +1586

    Speedrun Team: says dream cheated
    Dream: says he didn't cheat
    MatPat: *says that the debate is impossible to determine while also making everyone involved in minecraft speedrunning question their life choices*
    Edit: The people arguing in the replies need to get laid.

    • @crackerjack6013
      @crackerjack6013 3 년 전 +46

      True king

    • @Lonewolf-zr4ym
      @Lonewolf-zr4ym 3 년 전 +52

      I didn't even know there was minecraft speedruns. I just thought minecraft was a game where the boys hop on and talk about life problems

    • @TruthShaIIWin
      @TruthShaIIWin 3 년 전 +5

      *M A T H*

    • @EdricCoconut
      @EdricCoconut 3 년 전 +3

      Basically

    • @TimeattackGD
      @TimeattackGD 3 년 전 +29

      @@glass4786 no they arent. also im pretty sure matpat didnt want to choose a side because hes afraid of getting backlash which kinda sucks

  • @therealindoraptor7944
    @therealindoraptor7944 3 년 전 +2187

    “Did dream cheat?”
    “Why is speedrun? Where is cheat?
    That’s how I figured out Mario was a sociopath”

    • @Anonimos1999
      @Anonimos1999 3 년 전 +32

      if you want to know look at karl jobst video, he tells the truth about it (which is yes, he actually did cheat, and i’m saying this a dream’s fan)

    • @connerdehn5908
      @connerdehn5908 3 년 전 +5

      @@Anonimos1999 this kid is a bot

    • @jansenncuber8009
      @jansenncuber8009 3 년 전 +12

      @@Anonimos1999 Same. I wanted to think that Dream didn't cheat, and I've been a fan of his content for a long time, but he for sure cheated.

    • @Anonimos1999
      @Anonimos1999 3 년 전 +9

      @@jansenncuber8009 exactly, it was sooo disappointing to find out but that’s the truth and everyone should know

    • @omppuplayz
      @omppuplayz 3 년 전 +5

      Why are we still talking about this? I would see the point of talking about this anymore if it was like a #1 or #2 record like...
      I dont get the point please inform me

  • @accuratememin
    @accuratememin 2 년 전 +83

    "i don't want to beat a dead horse"
    Dream almost a year later: check this out

  • @superstarwarrior2933
    @superstarwarrior2933 2 년 전 +77

    This whole thing just goes to show how influential famous KRplusrs can be

  • @TheBloodsuger150
    @TheBloodsuger150 3 년 전 +2336

    “Did Dream cheat at Minecraft speedrunning or not?”
    MatPat: “Minecraft speedrunning cheated Dream”

    • @theisjepsen22
      @theisjepsen22 3 년 전 +65

      I think that is the best answer to that question, honestly.

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 3 년 전 +15

      The best answer you could give to that question! You are BRILLIANT, Oliver Payne :)

    • @Nezkredk
      @Nezkredk 3 년 전 +19

      @@theisjepsen22 Correction. Best Joke* Answer.

    • @swift_sa
      @swift_sa 3 년 전 +1

      Lol🤣🤣🤣

    • @MangaSkills
      @MangaSkills 3 년 전 +2

      Yo I like your statement haha That like one of best comment here

  • @adelarios1458
    @adelarios1458 3 년 전 +1899

    Everyone: “Did Dream cheat?”
    MatPat: AND thats why Kanye Wests REAL name is actually Kanye EAST

    • @sekoseko9728
      @sekoseko9728 3 년 전 +3

      krplus.net/bidio/dreLeJeJnnvGe4Y....

    • @randomanimations8488
      @randomanimations8488 3 년 전 +2

      A joke?
      I laugh

    • @gurentgc3546
      @gurentgc3546 3 년 전 +19

      Exactly, what with that conclusion? He didn’t answer his own questions...

    • @dabendan79
      @dabendan79 3 년 전 +15

      you finnally got it on spot
      Video title: you are Speedrunning Minecraft is the wrong way
      MatPat conclusion: Thats why Bart Simpson created fortnite
      im sick and tired on this matpat cancer

    • @desmondruhling
      @desmondruhling 3 년 전 +6

      @@sekoseko9728 nobody likes you

  • @Azami_chan
    @Azami_chan 3 개월 전 +11

    Mats old vids popping the first on my page i feel like crying

  • @ginjutsu_art
    @ginjutsu_art 3 개월 전 +6

    Watching this in 2024 is actually wild😭 ppl were rly arguing wether his minecraft speedruns were faked while he was out here talking to minors😭😭💀

  • @rookieart8189
    @rookieart8189 3 년 전 +2853

    Everyone: did he cheat?
    Mattpat: so thats how I found out Mario was a sociopath

    • @pentasis
      @pentasis 3 년 전 +26

      @Cyber Seas This video was for MatPat to give his ACTUAL opinion on the situation. You're just saying that it's bad because it isn't what you wanted.

    • @ariyantosupratman1956
      @ariyantosupratman1956 3 년 전 +10

      At this point people just accusing dream cheating because they hate him, no logical explanation anymore. They just use that 1 of 7.5 trillion number whatever as arguments, there is no other proof that he is use cheat in form of object. and you see here people just say he is cheat because they hate dream, let me tell you this just because some speedrunner who don't have any mathematical certificates and run a random simulation with wrong mechanics say dream is cheat doesn't mean that dream is actually cheating. It's just trend now if you hate dream you are a good, smart, and wise person.
      and you guy's are the worst rather than listening to what Matpat say from what his analysis and research have done, you guys just meme him because you think you're funny and smart because "EveRyBodY kNoW dREaM CheATinG". at least Matpat try to analyze it by him self not just bashing around and listen to what "Veteran Speedrunner" who don't have experience on real calculations and probability. Check yourself out fifth grader.

    • @XrayTheMyth23
      @XrayTheMyth23 3 년 전 +39

      @@pentasis to be fair the title is total bait, not really the commenter's fault for expecting a more factual video when it was just an opinion video

    • @KittenStudiosYT
      @KittenStudiosYT 3 년 전 +5

      @Cyber Seas here. There’s a low chance of winning the lottery but you won several times, you have luck . Use that but in Minecraft terms

    • @savikshamirana9198
      @savikshamirana9198 3 년 전

      💔💔
      krplus.net/bidio/acavnZKFmIzUoGk

  • @termsypoo
    @termsypoo 3 년 전 +2505

    Title: Did Dream fake his speedrun?
    MatPat: lol idk

    • @purlfox
      @purlfox 3 년 전 +29

      Thank you for your comment lol my tiktok brain can't handle KRplus lengthed content anymore 🤣🤣🤣

    • @geofferywilliams4867
      @geofferywilliams4867 3 년 전 +4

      Pretty Much

    • @PurpleLoverIgor
      @PurpleLoverIgor 3 년 전

      11 hours ago :|

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 3 년 전

      Good theory lol! You are THE BEST, ReadTheTerms :)

    • @clownfromclowntown
      @clownfromclowntown 3 년 전 +26

      @@purlfox so you just openly admitted to having a terrible attention span...god I hate my generation

  • @Just_Caden
    @Just_Caden 2 년 전 +29

    I think matpat just wanted an excuse to talk about some interesting math, I respect that.

  • @Evanino527
    @Evanino527 개월 전 +5

    Everyone: did dream cheat?
    Matpat: explaining the entire lore of the universe

  • @Asylia5911
    @Asylia5911 3 년 전 +1731

    Watchers: So... did he cheat or not?
    MatPat: Y’Know, Piglin Bartering ruins speedrunning and I think that sucks

    • @FabricOfReality73
      @FabricOfReality73 3 년 전 +116

      Though he dodged the point he is correct on that one, it does suck.

    • @francescocostanzo8225
      @francescocostanzo8225 3 년 전 +41

      @@FabricOfReality73 no one forced dream to speedrun minecraft or that version of minecraft

    • @awheckitsgoldie
      @awheckitsgoldie 3 년 전 +3

      Missed the point

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 3 년 전 +17

      @@FabricOfReality73 Nobody forces anyone to speedrun MC 1.16. Some speedrunners enjoy RNG, some hate it. Those who love it play games that contain it, those who hate it play games that don't have it or where you are capable of manipulating it to a reasonable enough degree. Piglin bartering may ruin speedrunning, but so did bugfixes in other games, which is why speedrunners play on earlier versions of those games. I really don't get why people make so much drama about stuff like that...

    • @TheKrossRoads
      @TheKrossRoads 3 년 전 +27

      Disappointing, but what else could he do? If he takes a side he gets jumped by the other side, and both sides are ravenous now. I suppose he could have just not done the video at all, but Matpat actually makes a great point here: Maybe 1.16 speedruns as a whole need to be thrown out.
      Don't get me (or Matpat) wrong, RNG can be really fun, and test the skill and adaptation abilities of the speedrunner. However, not all RNG does that; and a good example of the bad RNG is piglin bartering. No amount of skill or adaptation is going to help you if you're just not lucky. Since the bad RNG is so instrumental in the speedrun, that calls the validity of those speedruns into question. After all, speedruns are supposed to be a display of skill and mastery, not someone getting really lucky.
      So things like throwing out all the runs and putting in a "no piglin bartering" rule would be a more accurate reflection of mastery.

  • @GoldenKirby
    @GoldenKirby 3 년 전 +3272

    " Did he cheat? "
    MatPat: *" This is a final analysis, not a final answer. "*

  • @MrBen-zv1ip
    @MrBen-zv1ip 년 전 +80

    If you don't want to look for the answer and spoiler alert mat doesn't come to any conclusion (shocking)
    Dream cheated and he admitted to it but didn't apologised for it. He just shifted blame

  • @tuna3425
    @tuna3425 2 년 전 +16

    0:55 is how I feel when someone starts lecturing me.

  • @anthonycarrillo5076
    @anthonycarrillo5076 3 년 전 +2418

    Everyone: so did dream cheat?
    MatPat: The real cheaters are the friends we made along the way

    • @ThomasBaxter
      @ThomasBaxter 3 년 전 +46

      *Looks at spouse*: cries

    • @tumblingartist
      @tumblingartist 3 년 전 +13

      _maybe the real speedruns were the... oh wait we have no clue if it actually was real_ :/

    • @xmsm
      @xmsm 3 년 전 +3

      krplus.net/bidio/hZyPmZGai4fNeKg

    • @cleangreenearthforall9405
      @cleangreenearthforall9405 3 년 전 +2

      AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @dynamic6813
      @dynamic6813 3 년 전 +2

      Extended version krplus.net/bidio/iNmNaaCkdHu9amU

  • @just_an_internet_explorer8038

    POV you know your friend threw the paper airplane during class and the teacher asks you if you saw them do it.

  • @joellakairupan
    @joellakairupan 년 전 +14

    Matpat, I got 1 year of math and science ahead of my class all because of watching your videos. Thank you for teaching me things that my teachers took weeks to do.❤

  • @roselandacademyshorts5571

    Matpat was secretly the math professor dream hired

  • @lucii1056
    @lucii1056 3 년 전 +1197

    "Did Dream cheat or not?"
    Also MatPat: "margarine and divorce"

  • @notforvideoschannel
    @notforvideoschannel 7 개월 전 +5

    Dream: Admits he was cheating "a bit"
    Dream fans: "No! He didn't cheat!"

  • @BruceBatman2much
    @BruceBatman2much 2 개월 전 +2

    It hurts now to watch as you explain your reasoning for why you started this channel only to see that your leaving now

  • @Aaleg
    @Aaleg 2 년 전 +4967

    Jesus I’m gonna need a college mathematics degree to decide if a green man with a smiley face cheated in a block game

  • @nejmadhilo5462
    @nejmadhilo5462 3 년 전 +2651

    everyone: wait did dream cheat?
    matpat; “even better why is dream?”

  • @davidjones8047
    @davidjones8047 2 년 전 +11

    Fans: So did Dream cheat or no?
    Matpat: The fitness gram pacer test is an aerobic...

  • @xlightningplayz9270

    Plot Twist: MatPat was secretly the math professor Dream hired to cover his tracks… lol

  • @TyroneBrown_0
    @TyroneBrown_0 3 년 전 +2299

    "Did dream fake his speedrun?"
    Mat: idfk u tell me

    • @weirdofromhalo
      @weirdofromhalo 3 년 전 +20

      Watch Karl Jobst

    • @azrael_morningstar
      @azrael_morningstar 3 년 전 +46

      I think he said there is not enough proof to say he 100% cheated .

    • @dahgnzg5508
      @dahgnzg5508 3 년 전 +7

      @@azrael_morningstar karl jobst said he cheated

    • @azrael_morningstar
      @azrael_morningstar 3 년 전 +2

      @@dahgnzg5508 ik what he said but still not 100%

    • @adriking5383
      @adriking5383 3 년 전 +20

      YES HE CHEATED !! This Video Proofs it: krplus.net/bidio/aK-nZYSWgrCUhYY (The Video concludes that even if every Person on Earth played a minecraft Speedrun every second for 100 Years Then We would still Not achieve this amount of luck that Dream had in his speedrun BY FAR.) In fact If 10 Billion People on Earth did one minecraft speedrun every second then we would need to play Minecraft for 100000 Years just to get as Lucky as Dream got.

  • @c00mwall
    @c00mwall 3 년 전 +1519

    “ok but did he cheat?”
    “anyways, the five nights at freddy’s timeline-“

    • @piratefox3396
      @piratefox3396 3 년 전 +19

      IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE FNAF TIMELINE FOR A LONG TIME

    • @monke4476
      @monke4476 3 년 전 +1

      @@piratefox3396 what’s fnaf?

    • @I.disagree
      @I.disagree 3 년 전 +14

      @@monke4476 stop

    • @lakumowo
      @lakumowo 3 년 전 +4

      He said it’s a 2 parter

    • @JstormZx
      @JstormZx 3 년 전 +1

      @@monke4476 five nights at freddy's.
      A horror game? Y'know with the animatronics? No? Never heard of it?

  • @ace_5813
    @ace_5813 년 전 +5

    You made a 23 minute video trying to figure out if your so called “son” cheated in Minecraft. This is taking are you winning son memes to a whole new level-

  • @MyGamester
    @MyGamester 3 개월 전 +2

    Spoiler:Dream came out later and admitted he tampered with game files to put the odds in his favour. SHOCKER.

  • @PinkPixelProductions
    @PinkPixelProductions 3 년 전 +3723

    “So did dream cheat?”
    MatPat: AND NOW A WORD FROM OUR SPONSOR!

    • @darkvoid4512
      @darkvoid4512 3 년 전 +6

      lol

    • @meowdasia
      @meowdasia 2 년 전 +16

      RAID:SHADOW LEGENDS!!!!

    • @kulesama3185
      @kulesama3185 2 년 전 +1

      @@meowdasia åa

    • @cyberseai9305
      @cyberseai9305 2 년 전 +18

      Now we have an answer "YES"

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 2 년 전 +4

      I mean ya can't forget the sponsors man.. ya need that clout and sponsors for the money rolling in.. Flexing ON the FAns!

  • @Jablinnn
    @Jablinnn 3 년 전 +3507

    Everyone: Soo did he fake his speed runs?
    MatPat: Yesn’t

  • @spencerbrothers4594
    @spencerbrothers4594 2 년 전 +6

    I’ve never heard someone pronounce it ‘latex’ so confidently. Love it

  • @Eldudiogrande
    @Eldudiogrande 년 전 +5

    I wish matpat stayed true to his values and actually used maths to come to the correct conclusion

    • @frvppe4385
      @frvppe4385 년 전 +3

      he outright says why it would’ve been impossible to do so but ok

    • @myxi-ig7kx
      @myxi-ig7kx 3 개월 전

      it's not impossible he just isn't on the same level as a legit mathematician like Stand-up Maths @@frvppe4385

  • @saltymilk8133
    @saltymilk8133 3 년 전 +1409

    “Did dream cheat?”
    Matpat: well gravity exists and here’s my life story

    • @snek8907
      @snek8907 3 년 전 +1

      @Virtual Agent no is this a Rickroll?

    • @oz27spzz
      @oz27spzz 3 년 전 +13

      @@snek8907 I'll take the fall for everyone if it is.. wish me luck

    • @epicgamer-ny4fj
      @epicgamer-ny4fj 3 년 전 +1

      @@oz27spzz was it,

    • @oz27spzz
      @oz27spzz 3 년 전 +18

      @@epicgamer-ny4fj not even close.. it was just some random link.. everyone in the comments were randomly linked to that video

    • @JstormZx
      @JstormZx 3 년 전

      @@oz27spzz literally *e v e r y o n e* and it's bloody annoying.

  • @ryanexx5250
    @ryanexx5250 3 년 전 +1905

    It’s great how Minecraft can simultaneously be the most relaxed and intense game at the same time

    • @EpochIsEpic
      @EpochIsEpic 3 년 전 +20

      That’s mostly because Minecraft is essentially a content generation platform at this point

    • @marson_6655
      @marson_6655 3 년 전

      True

    • @angelaplays
      @angelaplays 3 년 전

      Facts

    • @Tonjit41
      @Tonjit41 3 년 전

      Minecraft is EVERYTHING

    • @buddergolem9463
      @buddergolem9463 3 년 전 +1

      That’s the appeal, it’s a game that you always wanna play because it can be played like any kind of game

  • @120id9
    @120id9 년 전 +3

    Ok, but hear me out. Any chance the correlation between margarine consumption and divorce rate is actually because both are tied to household income?

  • @Psilomuscimol
    @Psilomuscimol 4 개월 전 +2

    You probably wont see this, as this video is 2 years old. But theres a plant that can go without water for years and become green again and grow when you finally water it. Its called a forever fern or a resurrection plant or something.

  • @Boffy
    @Boffy 3 년 전 +9534

    you... didn’t answer the question in the title?

  • @gg-zi9vk
    @gg-zi9vk 3 년 전 +943

    "So did he cheat on his speedrun?"
    "Well, learning is fun."

  • @Aegon1
    @Aegon1 3 개월 전 +1

    Imagine getting a PhD in physics and using your intelligence for Minecraft probabilities
    What an honor

  • @Glorman69
    @Glorman69 2 년 전 +27

    Just wondering why Dream "accidentally" had sophisticated speedrun cheats

  • @BarelySociable
    @BarelySociable 3 년 전 +23569

    When you want to cash in on the controversy but don't want to take a side

    • @Slackow
      @Slackow 3 년 전 +559

      Yeah and also what was pretty funny was the exact idea for a tournament he pitched at the end was already happening. They use special datapacks that make all their piglin trades to the same to eliminate rng and then they run the same worlds.

    • @dump1ing.2005.
      @dump1ing.2005. 3 년 전 +85

      The true winner

    • @Michael-Hammerschmidt
      @Michael-Hammerschmidt 3 년 전 +672

      Honestly. Not just disappointing but downright disingenuous for someone who talked ad nauseum about his passion for statistics to not just come to a conclusion but almost entirely brush over the mathematical meat of the subject at all.

    • @aryan7767
      @aryan7767 3 년 전 +287

      @@Michael-Hammerschmidt yeah I used to like these guys but now they're so disingenuous and the content is downright bad. Its not entertaining and informative like it used to be, but just whatever is the most popular trend to get the most views

    • @mediy0
      @mediy0 3 년 전 +10

      Bruh

  • @fatnuts5085
    @fatnuts5085 3 년 전 +1692

    “Did Dream cheat?”
    “To determine that we must go back to the first ever speedrun and examine it very closely”

    • @lowreslireas
      @lowreslireas 3 년 전 +23

      read that with an old man History Channel narrator voice

    • @stefanandrejevic2570
      @stefanandrejevic2570 3 년 전 +12

      We first must include the 420 sponsors that will take up 90% of the video and then put a bunch of ads

    • @joycefurphy2312
      @joycefurphy2312 3 년 전

      819 likes and only 2 comments excluding mine :/

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 3 년 전

      Nice comment! You are BRILLIANT, 1 3 :)

    • @JK_5076
      @JK_5076 3 년 전

      How did you get so many likes? I only get about 1 on the day a vid is posted

  • @R0Kdarock
    @R0Kdarock 년 전 +2

    actually playing after nether update makes it harder to speedrun because it added bastions so the chances are low to find a fotress compered to previous seedruns

  • @unnamedracer9757
    @unnamedracer9757 7 개월 전 +1

    I believe we need to dub MatPat in the intro MathPat

  • @konradsielilo349
    @konradsielilo349 3 년 전 +2226

    “Well did he cheat”
    Mat Pat
    “I like mustard on my vegan pizza”

    • @waddlesbell7457
      @waddlesbell7457 3 년 전 +80

      I guess it makes sense for him not to give an answer if you can’t prove either side.

    • @Korotan_
      @Korotan_ 3 년 전 +37

      @@waddlesbell7457 yep not making either side mad is the best possible thing to do

    • @jesusvilla5907
      @jesusvilla5907 3 년 전 +10

      @@Korotan_ just pander to the lowest common denominator.

    • @DakotaTheRota
      @DakotaTheRota 3 년 전 +27

      ​@@waddlesbell7457 People ran simulations to see if they could get the same luck. They couldn't get it. So there for he cheated.

    • @francescocostanzo8225
      @francescocostanzo8225 3 년 전 +4

      This comment right here is the reason I unsubscribed. Mat Pat really disappointed me today.

  • @SuperMekki666
    @SuperMekki666 3 년 전 +1918

    Everyone: Did Dream cheat?
    Mat: is speedrunning even worth it?

    • @Dixiecrat
      @Dixiecrat 3 년 전 +83

      Doesn't sway one side in order to avoid hate but also refuses you answer the simple question of whether Dream cheated or not. Clickbait.

    • @mementomori5580
      @mementomori5580 3 년 전 +15

      More like "Is speedrunning a game where the best time depends mostly on RNG even worth it?"

    • @mementomori5580
      @mementomori5580 3 년 전 +38

      @@Dixiecrat Because the answer to the question is not simple. The only honest answer is "Only Dream truly knows", because just because an event is unlikely, even very unlikely, it doesn't mean that it can't happen.

    • @Dixiecrat
      @Dixiecrat 3 년 전 +26

      @@mementomori5580 okay, keep denying the truth then.

    • @mementomori5580
      @mementomori5580 3 년 전 +44

      @@Dixiecrat I am simply stating a fact. Nobody other then Dream can actually say wether or not he Cheated. All the Speedrunning Team did was decide that the luck displayed in Dreams Speedruns are over the threshold they find "acceptable", which is why they are labeling that he cheated. But they themselves don't actually know, and we will never know because Dream will, most likely, never say that he cheated and so we're at a stalemate and you either "play the game" and pick a side to believe or you just put the whole thing away and acknowledge that nobody can actually tell and they the status quo is simply "The Team decided he cheated" and that's it.

  • @Scorchinghell
    @Scorchinghell 년 전 +1

    Here’s a Minecraft theory
    If blue Ice and lave come into contact with each other to create basalt wouldn’t that mean the nether once had vegetation LONG before the player firsts spawns in. And was lost due to immense heat

  • @Evil_EmperorOfficial

    Remember kids, it's not cheating, it just using custom rules!

  • @NyssaStorm
    @NyssaStorm 3 년 전 +845

    Everyone: So, did Dream cheat?
    MatPat: Anyways, about that bean burrito I had for dinner...

    • @jerrysmith3476
      @jerrysmith3476 3 년 전 +2

      he did

    • @ChefAwesome2010
      @ChefAwesome2010 3 년 전

      So what about a bean 🌯

    • @snomvish
      @snomvish 3 년 전 +4

      he learned how to eat it with skillshare

    • @skiddy3715
      @skiddy3715 3 년 전

      Yo burrito speedruns are dope af

    • @jay-lz8zn
      @jay-lz8zn 3 년 전 +2

      The thing is that matpat is friends with dream and prob didn’t want to admit he cheated because friendship reasons.

  • @Daisy-uw5oz
    @Daisy-uw5oz 3 년 전 +4861

    “Did he cheat?”
    Mat: WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

  • @darkforge15
    @darkforge15 년 전 +2

    "Divorce and margarine are completely unrelated..."
    Not a sentence I expected to hear today.

  • @cookiesaretasty429
    @cookiesaretasty429 2 년 전 +2

    This aged badly

  • @kaspikey9553
    @kaspikey9553 3 년 전 +2238

    Everyone: "So did Dream Cheat?"
    Matpat: SO ANYWAYS LET'S TALK ABOUT MONKEYS ON A TYPEWRITER GOING BRRRRRRRRRR"

    • @alias_crouton2316
      @alias_crouton2316 3 년 전 +5

      @Isaiah Byrd I was just about to say that.

    • @fkhan2006
      @fkhan2006 3 년 전 +7

      lol this comment is so dumb. matpat can't just make a 3 second video saying "yes" or "no" to the question in the title. He's here to educate us and present the evidence in an entertaining way. don't make dumb comments just cuz you're a butthurt dream stan (don't see any other reason as to why you're seem so angry)

    • @kaspikey9553
      @kaspikey9553 3 년 전 +3

      @@fkhan2006 Yikes buddy didn't realize you had no idea what a joke was

    • @fkhan2006
      @fkhan2006 3 년 전 +3

      @@kaspikey9553 jokes are used all the time to share an opinion. tell me, do you think that MatPat clickbaited us with that title? tell me, are you angry about the title? because that's what i'm getting from your joke. also jokes are supposed to make you laugh. didn't even smile

    • @kaspikey9553
      @kaspikey9553 3 년 전 +6

      @@fkhan2006 r/iamverysmart

  • @Sethica
    @Sethica 3 년 전 +44606

    Everyone’s talking about Matpat’s conclusion but I’m here thinking about how Matpat pronounces versions like “one point one six”

    • @OreganoParsley
      @OreganoParsley 3 년 전 +2234

      @BECOMING BTS stfu

    • @HxCMusicMaster
      @HxCMusicMaster 3 년 전 +717

      That's fairly common, isn't it?

    • @YellyOld
      @YellyOld 3 년 전 +770

      @Harry Styles go away, bot.

    • @corvidashgame5613
      @corvidashgame5613 3 년 전 +254

      Him pronouncing LaTeX like "lay-teks" instead of "lay-tek" is what got to me lol

    • @randomreviews787
      @randomreviews787 3 년 전 +246

      Well you can’t have one point sixteen it’s just not a number it would have been 2.6 by now

  • @colasergeant
    @colasergeant 년 전

    mat just making one of the greatest minecraft speedrun tournament ideas i have ever heard

  • @enderform374
    @enderform374 년 전 +1

    this aged well! also, try to re animate this vid with dreams actual face. this may not turn out so well.

  • @liesanddeceit8135
    @liesanddeceit8135 3 년 전 +2536

    “Did dream cheat?”
    “There is a lot of math in Minecraft.”

    • @sethfortune230
      @sethfortune230 3 년 전 +61

      He did cheat, no need to question this sellout

    • @thekekwguy5722
      @thekekwguy5722 3 년 전 +17

      @David Alexander haha shops going to fire man samaa

    • @sethfortune230
      @sethfortune230 3 년 전 +18

      @David Alexander in the words of whiny voiced annoying politician that i hate "facts don't care about your"

    • @aymanfalna7150
      @aymanfalna7150 3 년 전 +7

      @@sethfortune230 You didn't finish Ben Shapiro's sentence.

    • @shivamdas1801
      @shivamdas1801 3 년 전 +7

      @@sethfortune230 ben "my wife is a doctor" Shapiro

  • @notroy9376
    @notroy9376 3 년 전 +681

    Everyone: so... did he cheat?
    Matpat: I'm not very good at gardening

    • @heshohesho1860
      @heshohesho1860 3 년 전 +4

      krplus.net/bidio/dreLeJeJnnvGe4Y.

    • @liseegeskov8769
      @liseegeskov8769 3 년 전 +15

      @@heshohesho1860 pls be a Rick Roll pls be a Rick roll pls be a Rick roll pls Im tired of these self promoting bots

    • @Heavy-W-Guy
      @Heavy-W-Guy 3 년 전 +1

      @@liseegeskov8769 its really how it be out here no cap

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 3 년 전 +7

      @@liseegeskov8769 it’s not, it’s a link to a video by Karl Jobst, a guy known for exposing fake speed runs.

    • @fetusgriffin9897
      @fetusgriffin9897 3 년 전 +1

      @@heshohesho1860 shut

  • @dicksoutfordjmusicman9335

    i know this is layered in a lot of drama and controversy but some of the comments are genuinely funny like-

  • @gachapusheenlover
    @gachapusheenlover 년 전 +1

    0:14 mr beast just chilling

  • @adamyusuf1805
    @adamyusuf1805 3 년 전 +406

    Everyone: So? Did he cheat or not?
    MatPat: Idk lol but skillshare

  • @biblicallybased
    @biblicallybased 년 전 +1

    I love how this was a great way to make use of A Level Statistics early. Also, got the same stats for your first question, @The Game Theorists: 17.19% and 2.84%

  • @Erik.Culescu
    @Erik.Culescu 년 전 +2

    This didn’t aged well

  • @xenodrax9320
    @xenodrax9320 2 년 전 +3777

    Me: Oh, cool, a video breaking down Dream’s speedrun, I was wondering about that
    MatPat: ‘So basically, here’s how the universe works in a mathematical sense’

    • @astrangeorange4225
      @astrangeorange4225 2 년 전 +43

      Lol yeah, he did end up admitting to cheating tho

    • @macc7858
      @macc7858 2 년 전 +11

      @@astrangeorange4225 *accidentally but I don’t believe him

    • @hikari1690
      @hikari1690 2 년 전 +10

      From this theory and analysis I propose a new theory. Minecraft is the universe.
      But hey, it's just a theory

    • @az1202
      @az1202 2 년 전 +3

      @@macc7858 have you watched Karl’s video on it? If not watch it, it’s pretty interesting

    • @macc7858
      @macc7858 2 년 전 +3

      @@az1202 nah who’s karl

  • @a.a.animatoranimatinganani7555

    "War is based on piglin trades"
    -Sun Tzu's Art of Speedruns

  • @billahmutasim2011
    @billahmutasim2011 8 개월 전 +1

    Did dream cheat?
    Matpat:ok

  • @Kayla-Aphrodite-cabin
    @Kayla-Aphrodite-cabin 2 개월 전 +1

    “That thing is always a war zone” - MatPat on Dsmp stuff

  • @bl1ank956
    @bl1ank956 3 년 전 +1295

    Everyone: "did dream cheat?"
    Matpat : "first who is dream"

    • @damondgreen2239
      @damondgreen2239 3 년 전 +52

      Matpat: “but a even better question is why is Dream?”

    • @ItsMustachio
      @ItsMustachio 3 년 전 +36

      Matpat: “but first when is dream?”

    • @zacharywiggins9660
      @zacharywiggins9660 3 년 전 +9

      first, did dream dream the short dream of the game while dreaming in the long dream of life?

    • @callmeobsequious
      @callmeobsequious 3 년 전 +2

      This sounds more like Vsauce to me but I still enjoy this comment

    • @gregdabrat
      @gregdabrat 3 년 전 +5

      Vsauce music plays

  • @sebastianwillows
    @sebastianwillows 3 년 전 +392

    So... did he cheat?
    Matpat: "Divorce and Margarine are unrelated"

    • @zomazoma3609
      @zomazoma3609 3 년 전 +1

      krplus.net/bidio/dreLeJeJnnvGe4Y........

    • @user-gp6zr8bx2m
      @user-gp6zr8bx2m 3 년 전 +1

      Oh thank god there isn’t an essay of why matpat “sucks” finally a breather

  • @michaelburris8014
    @michaelburris8014 년 전 +4

    10 times for seven times is way more likely than 100 times for 60 times.

  • @dantebonetespinosa4510

    He wasn't cheating he just took normal pills

  • @shlagmite3653
    @shlagmite3653 3 년 전 +678

    Matpat trying to not cause controversy:

  • @katherinasteiner1463
    @katherinasteiner1463 2 년 전 +2935

    everyone: "did he cheat??"
    matpat: "well he ran at a fast speed for sure"

    • @Truckingmama1
      @Truckingmama1 년 전 +3

      so true ha hahaha 😆

    • @shrek7172
      @shrek7172 년 전 +1

      😆

    • @AzguardMike
      @AzguardMike 년 전 +9

      Everyone "did he cheat?"
      Mat "i dunno, lemme see what everyone else thinks first then answer with their replies"

  • @P3nguln_
    @P3nguln_ 7 개월 전

    love how there is now a way to vs somone in minecraft speedrunning these days

  • @theatlasarcade2012

    He had me until the part where he didn't answer the question

  • @bucca2
    @bucca2 3 년 전 +1390

    For anyone who wants to know the verdict: Matt doesn’t actually say whether or not he thinks Dream cheated or not. He just explains some of the statistics and math behind it.

    • @chubbybunny6975
      @chubbybunny6975 3 년 전 +154

      Meanwhile, mathematicians proved that he DID actually cheat

    • @dootdootclaire
      @dootdootclaire 3 년 전 +14

      @@chubbybunny6975 wait what? I haven’t watched the video yet but what about the professor that said he didn’t?

    • @TruthShaIIWin
      @TruthShaIIWin 3 년 전 +3

      *M A T H*

    • @ashleyberkowitz8772
      @ashleyberkowitz8772 3 년 전 +65

      @@dootdootclaire someone effectively debunked that but I’m not sure if they were right

    • @toad7395
      @toad7395 3 년 전 +50

      theres no real way to be a hundred percent sure about it, although the odds are not in his favor

  • @samw4866
    @samw4866 3 년 전 +1976

    “Something I’d like to call sight reading”
    *smiles in band kid*

    • @sallyworm2358
      @sallyworm2358 3 년 전 +16

      What? He liked your comment?

    • @gibbabibba
      @gibbabibba 3 년 전 +5

      Bruh same

    • @maggiefulop
      @maggiefulop 3 년 전 +25

      *smiles in cultured Linglingwannabe orchestra kid*

    • @ebuslamentee5963
      @ebuslamentee5963 3 년 전 +22

      @@sallyworm2358 no he just slapped a big virtual sticker next to it, in the same place where the heart usually goes

    • @sallyworm2358
      @sallyworm2358 3 년 전 +4

      @@ebuslamentee5963 thanks for clearing that up 👍

  • @jillmorris3253
    @jillmorris3253 년 전

    Wait, I’m in college and have a lot of statistics background. What Mat describes as p-hacking is actually called post-hoc analysis: the practice of coming up with a hypothesis after getting the data. P-hacking is when you run data and tweak the statistics you’re running until the numbers come out the way you want them….

  • @princessjoy1931
    @princessjoy1931 년 전 +3

    The notification finally came one year later.
    Damn 😂😂

  • @The-Soothsayer
    @The-Soothsayer 3 년 전 +375

    Matpat: DID DREAM CHEAT?
    20 Mins later
    Matpat: AND THAT'S WHY THERE SHOULDN'T BE A 1.16 SPEEDRUNNING CATEGORY

  • @Sahtoovi
    @Sahtoovi 3 년 전 +290

    What I expected: Yes he did cheat / No he did not cheat
    What I got: Lol idk but here's some math

    • @TruthShaIIWin
      @TruthShaIIWin 3 년 전 +3

      I become Albert Einstein after watching this

    • @EldritchGoddess
      @EldritchGoddess 3 년 전 +1

      thats what im here for really

    • @abidulmuhaiminrahbar
      @abidulmuhaiminrahbar 3 년 전 +2

      The problem with his last topic is that how many do you consider as variables. The main 2 variables to cheat would be easily pearl and blaze rods drops easily. Because you can find a god seed in 2 or 3 streams but you cant ensure the good rng of pearls and blaze rods. So, if iron golem drops 3 iron, not 5 that can be solve by only wasting like 10 sec. But if you dont get pearls and blaze rods early, this can take you 5+ mins easily.

    • @vcrmOnW
      @vcrmOnW 3 년 전

      He pretty much said validating speed runs on tamed rng numbers (which do get out of hand since it's rng) will always result in controversy