Game Theory: Star Wars, How the Force WORKS! (Star Wars Fallen Order)

Well hey they finally made a great game

"IT WAS SAID YOU WOULD BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE NOT LEAVE IT IN DARKNESS!"

*You become the exact thing you swore to destroy*

I saw 'EA' and sighed so much.
EA = Extremly Awful

Ea is bad

exactly!

O_O

Also Force Push and Pull

it's localized time dilation

@@garetclaborn that would only work if he manipulated gravity

Not to mention what MatPat is talking about does exist as a force power, Force Speed.

Yeah he stops it not slow it down like cal does.

@@witherslayer4239 ​ also a midichlorian seems closer to electrons then mitochondria so I’m guessing midochlorians are just a measure of how we’ll you can control electrons(which is solidified by force electricity/dark side electricity and the nightsisters)

@@pop7292 but it isn’t biological.

Nerd moment here: force stasis also exists in KOTOR, but it doesn't make your oponents slower, it desorients them

that's what I call a fun teacher

You're so funny and original with that "nobody" of yours...

@@JoonaBruh Cope.

@@internetual7350 Original.

@@JoonaBruh who cares if things are original

Technically respawn Entertainment but ok

@@Tainted_Human Respawn 100%. Don't give EA any credit.

@@snowway0ut552 they only published it so I'd stop sending death threats....I MEAN WHAT. YOU HAVE NO PROOF

It’s just another one of EA’s surprise mechanics

Then pays matpat to promote it

That was totally me. I was like, wait, so midi-chlorians aren´t bad?

@@shadowtaco5052 And you wannabees of course don't understand what problem people really did have with them?

@@TheRezro ok den

One question though, why is that not everyone slows down? Also Kylo Ren has this ability kinda, so maybe it's more that you're making other people and objects have less force energy around them. Or maybe it's a matter of changing space time using the energy of the force.

@@tillerrrmmonopoly5741 Or maybe its sans controlling not space time but time and space. hmmmmmm

We see you, and I say thanks

True 😑

I see you

At least it was only 10 minutes for you. I tend to go all out for a half hour to a FULL hour sometimes.

Sorry bro.

mitochondria*

The correct answer is to learn how not to. It was a trick question all along.

No, I like this! Sounds like a venereal disease.

It's like spider sense. It makes you perceive things as slower, so you seem faster in comparison

Ermac Macro yeah but that doesnt answer the question, how come you can only slow one object

@@outland2874 Narrowing your focus?

if the "force slow" speeds you up, it would make everything around you seem slower, not just a specific person or thing.

Maybe you're concentrating on the moves of the one object, so you can react faster

I think the first objective is the spark of life, your first one is free when the sperm links with the egg, after that you need to keep metabolizing sources of energy until your systems corrode, break down and fail.
Evolution has gotten us this far, now we need to completely Decode our DNA and genomic library, optimize and improve the repair, regeneration, and anti-aging functions, increase mental capacity, and then transcode the new Updated Human patterns back into DNA and spawned into actual living life forms. That is as far as we can get running on a meat based carbon life form platform.
For advancements beyond the abilities of meat creatures, we have to learn to code, and write advanced A.I. who's sole purpose is to write even better more advanced generalized A.I.
Then we will have created digital beings far more advanced than ourselves.

@@SeaJay_Oceans I don't think you quite understand how complex our brains are. You say that we need to make an AI that will create a more generalized AI, but guess what we are. A very generalized AI. As of right now we are incapable of creating a machine that can store as much information as our brains process in only one second. What you are proposing is creating an AI that would be WORSE than a human mind. At least with our current technological state. The only reason digital intelligence SEEMS to be better than what humans can do is because it is programmed to do very specific things. Our brains could probably do FAR BETTER than our measly machines if they operated the same way, but our brains traded the ability to do precise calculations for the ability to generalize everything, simply because the real world has way too much information to process, even for our brains.

MatPat2: Tomorow..

I’ll do it tomorrow

ScarletThread49 I didn't expect for eny1 2 commet.. lol

That was force sprint. If you go and play the original battle front 2 and use Jedi or sith you see it there

@@sylvaticdaveo4486 ya and Cal can use force speed with the dash strike attack

Because thats how ppl tend use it. In the EU(I know its no canon blah blah) the force was alllied in a huge variety of ways. Thought bombs, inspiring/demoralizing troops on the field etc.

@@elijahnakumura4375 but if you will think force or telekinesis is complete pseudoscience there was 1million$ prize in usa dor those who can on camera show any supernatural power noone showed up till now

There are other abilities that dint fit in the force
Able to feel strong emotions or connections across long distances
Slight prophetic visions
Shooting lightning from your hands
Empowering your physical prowess (yoda makes great use of this)
And a ton more things depending how far you go down the comics that arent technically canon anymore cuz disney

@Some Random Dude also the cosmic force. So gravity and any laws are false

Its Za Warudo but oddly specific

Well he said it was a dark side power

Also it can only be used on people and not objects ao its probably the dark side mine-cloud thing

Colin, actually if you remember he freezes a blaster bolt in the force awakens in the very beginning :3

Game Difficulty_42 THANK YOU!! I was thinking that during the entire video

I just had that unit for cells and i forgot

His Michael is showing lol

This is not at all how force speed works. Force speed is an augment that you place upon yourself, I assume through high amounts of inner focus. Making it impossible to use on someone else or other objects. It helps with concentration, reactions, focus, split decision making etc. Something that only exists in the eyes of the person who is under it's influence is very difficult to show on camera or to a player in a game. But anyone who has an extremely fast thinking process, and reactions would most likely perceive the world around them as going slower. Every bit of information picked up by their senses would be perceived as if it was a slower environment, there's no way only singular elements of that environment would be seen as faster or slower, it would be everything.

Ya speed everything else up
BIG BRAIN

Also, how can people move objects with the force if they can't effect things without Midi-Chlorians.

As seen in clip 5:00

Welcome to post middleschool club, now you wont see plotholes only every his third or fourth theory, thats why some people prefer austin.

Ignored for sponsorship. He probably just didn't have a better idea for a video.

Same

My Biology teacher actually showed us mitochrondia memes to help us remember it (in my country this translates to 11th grade tho, not 8th)

GoldenBeans you have a true teacher

same

@@GoldenBeans and out of curiosity what country is that

interesting, I forgot about force stasis. But in KOTOR the single player version of SWTOR and precursor. Force stasis could only be used on living things, even if you leveled it up all the way. My first thought also was some form of force speed but giving it a closer look what we see in the game doesn't match up with what we know about force speed. Is it possible that star wars has upgraded the force stasis ability or maybe even the force slow ability?

I think the training would be multiplicative, so a civilian could train very hard to use simple force abilities and Anakin could feel things when he was a little kid.

Lmao don't work like that. Mitichloriams are in yo blood. Don't increase nor decrease

@@mundusvis1224 No, you cant increase them, that is impossible unless you are darth plaguius, the only one who could do that and who is dead, to even do force powers you need over 5 thousand midichlorians to even do simple stuff, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO INCREASE IF YOU ARE A NORMAL PERSON YOU STUPID MAN

I suppose a random person could somewhat increase their midichlorian count but not enough to actually become a Jedi and be able to use the Force. Just like Filoni said, "If I train hard enough I'll be better at martial arts but I'll never reach Bruce Lee's level". I'm guessing becoming better at martial arts means increasing the midichlorian count and reaching Bruce Lee's level means using the Force/becoming a Jedi. 2000 to 20,000 midichlorians is quite the jump for a "normal" person to make by simply training. You have to be born with an already high midichlorian count otherwise I don't see why the Jedi would take Force-sensitive kids from their families to train them if they could just train random orphans.

what are you gonna train the submicroscopic lifeforms living in your cells to fucc more?

lol

trEAson

Could have come in handy sooooo many times

"there are no accidents"

We're not a cult, we're just a support group for scarred ex-students. We are planning a revolution though, you in?

@@samuelgomez9124 I'm in

Samuel Gomez Count me in

Samuel Gomez Yes, i’m ready to devolt my life to the revolution.

Samuel Gomez I KNEW IT!
Let’s over throw the public school system. I’m in....what’s the plaN?

no its actually a jolly jog

Cool step

Totally Tubular Trot

Benjamin Branchett Or Stellar Steppy

If this is about the electron thing it freaked me out last time. 😅

I no longer need a hover board i am never actually touching the ground

seems like a VSauce quote to me LUL

I can't believe I never touched myself !

To quote my physics teacher:
"Never tell your mother you didn't hit your brother just because your electrons didn't trade places."

Gameplay is limited to what programmers considered(or didn't consider) the power was capable of.

@@popburnsy3207 If gameplay can't be considered a canon representation of the force power then none of this discussion would mean anything.

Chuck it up to game design or the fact that you use a more complex force push/pull to force the thing you focus on to slow down.
Choose your poison. After all, if you, as a jedi are creative enough, you can make an explosion using a pebble and a gun on our tech via some metal walls.

@@crashkojote5627Kojote there is also a force power called force speed that speeds up the user. and it is far more common in Starwars properties than force slow is. no this is doing something else.

sorry didn't mean to direct it at you crash. Just to add to the conversation

That's deep

This is why Hamill and Monaghan can never be onscreen together. They'll cancel each other out and cease to exist.

holy cow my mind my mind just got blown to freakin pieces

🎶The circle of the force🎵

Not a ,The Animated Joker

And makes an arguement about how biological organisms shouldn't affect nonorganic objects, but then refers to how you can lift rocks with the force.

How can they mess up the simplest thing

I thought that it just increased my perception on something that my character was targeting

@@Freakadog I guess rocks and xwings are alive

Also, gravity is a thing when you imitate sanic

Yeah and gravity is the same for you which wouldn't make sense if you were overdrived

EXACTLY what i was about to comment

Do remember one thing here, he was going off of a demo play he did before the game released. A demo play that was only a few hours long.

@@RemembermeSF Yeah but he shows a scene where the use of forceslow and only one spinning thing gets slower when there are two in the screen, aldo the thrown light saber in the other scene. So that excuse does not work.

Bingo

Ribowhat

Haha, i get it... science!

Distant distressed lysosome noises

*sad vacuole noises*

My cells have houses?

@@fangsoffuego yes, very strong houses.

Lucas Briddle if you have lots of mitochondria

This mitochondria meme was an inside joke between me and my cousins before I discovered it being a meme

Im not even american and i have "is the powerhouse of the cell" drilled in my head. We dont have that here in the netherlands

Midichlorians are more like to a forendali not mitochondria

Forendali connect us to oxygen

This theory is wrong and is bullshit

Ayush and harshit ki vines proof

Team Cyborg midochlorian is the power house of the force ;)

And feel more lonely knowing you'll never truly be connected to any body or anything 😢

Well since our perception is our reality, the fact that we feel like we can touch things is all that really matters

@@bassplayertaylor6983 time to shatter my perceptive reality and never have the ability to feel anything ever again!

Vacuoles only stores food water and waste but i forget it they produce energy

I thought it was a lysosome or something

Maybe a ribosome?

Itsa ribosome!

I guessed ribosome too!

Maybe because he didn't hit the ground. He slowed him enough to land on a ship

@@MrMoop23 Yes. Couldn't do that if he was just "accelerating his senses"

That could be an effect of force pull, but in a weaker state than purely getting them closer to Cal. He could be actively pulling up.
This theory doesn't make any sense with double jumps, force pull, and force push though

@@gingerinajacket8519 Or Force slow really, because you see it in footage, it slow one object at the time, not the other, that make no sense if it's our sense who are affected

I did.

V: *So it is written.*

death metal mat pat

I’m dead

CuppaTeaExe my bio test when I didn’t study
So you have chosen... death

I actually shouted that

The Mitoclorian is the powerhouse of the Force

*6th grade biology teachers are fuming*

Biology class failed me I thought there was 1 mitochondria per cell

The Midi-Chlorian is the power house of the force!

A good soldier follows orders

ArchyMVP 0592 perhaps the archives are incomplete

anything not in the archives doesn't exist.

@@Jackb201 Ok Shreck

Ah another man of science

Could it not be a ribosome, a lysosome, or a nucleolus?

Yea I just realized that with the like, wheels.

was a kind of interesting video 'till that moment

Also in the first scene where Cal uses the force, he slows down Praug so he doesn't fall to his death

@@earth1883 and doesnt explain all de powers

This seems to be an issue with mat and austin, they have a really interesting idea, but they miss on one thing that proves them totally wrong. Still love the videos anyway

This is what I came to the comments to find, thanks.

I was going to say the same thing! Either that or centrioles

*waves hand*: the mitocondria is the powerhouse of the cell....

I was gonna say it was deoxyribonucleic acid

I was thinking ribosomes

KRYMauL, that wasn't the point... 👀

KRYMauL, irrelevant 👀

KRYMauL, bruv, the joke was he said nobody likes hearing about midichlorians and that now he talks so much about them. No need to rub your obvious knowledge, not to be rude.

Girls girls ur booth pretty, u booth have points so plz don't argue

oof oof, first of all, I aint arguing, second, who you callin a girl?

I think he meant the KOTOR version of Force Slow.

Don't forget lightsabers MANY times

While technically true, the Crystal's inside of lightsabers have long been said to be living items. The episode in 2004 clone wars where baris coffee was constructing her lightsaber Luminara Unduli mentions several times in her chant that the crystal is alive and chose her, that the connection between jedi and crystal brought out the best in both. Same goes for star wars the clone wars 2012. Yoda takes younglings into illumination for their crystal trial. Tells them that the crystal will choose them,not the other way around. Only through channeling the force can you hear it call

Lol Bariss Coffee. Not seen that in a while.

The force can effect anything but non-living things just can’t manipulate the force (minus infused with the force things)

I wanted to point out the same thing, you are slowing down singular objects or enemys with the force slow ability. So it can't be a force fast effect. Adding to that you (matt) just said in the beginning that the midi-chlorians are not the force itself but just the thing that connects us to the force. So I would not base the force powers on the midi-chlorians.
I love your overall thought but I just cannot believe this theory.

I said this 4 months ago

I was literally coming to the comments to see if anyone said that

You're mistaken. What it does you are just processing information faster. So you react and think faster. Than a normal person. Think it like watching a video in 2x, that explains why the other is not slowed. Because your only focusing to that specific object or person.

@@Bingcom-fg1ev I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense at all. You can't process information of one person faster and therefor just slow him down..

Bug Batts Except the theory has at least one hole, so...

Bug Batts I also looked it up (because I didn’t know what it was) and the first result I got was that it had tiny holes, so...

@@redknight8945 Had to go through my old memory to remember that you must be talking about protein channels

This insult make people use science to solve if the insult would work. That really is a statement.

Destruction King big brain

Yeah.. this theory wasn't the greatest

It seemed that he was more holding it still with the force rather than slowing it down. If you watch the clip, the bolt is clearly resisting the force.

You mean force hold? One of the most bog-standard skills?

yeah that's just exerting pressure all around an object so that it can't move

I have never watched a single Star Wars movie so I have no clue what is happening

Cuz ur the powerhouse of this cell?

Because when you're inside them, it's microscopic and imperceptible?

😂

@@DavidJohnson-mo7fq Oh that was good

Wanna know why the call me the cell membrane?

Except that things keep moving while they are slowed. One could argue that you are right in a way, in that the force applies increased pressure on an object from all sides. However, that wouldn't hold up either because any initial momentum would be lost. Objects slowed (like blasters) wouldn't return to their normal speed because nothing is constantly giving them momentum.

Exactly. It makes way more sense than effecting time or whatever,

I think it is more of this sort of thing too. If it was you just reacting faster then it would affect everything around you not just a single troop or object. To me this technique is very similar in appearance and function to Kylo's force freeze from episode 7. It feels like this skill works in the same way that you can use the force to speed yourself up but in the opposite effect. Like you can increase your speed so much that you appear to be a blur, so it stands to reason that you could also accomplish the opposite and slow someone or thing to a crawl.

@@Lord_Poyo that's a good observation. I was thinking that it was just a more advanced push as well but your point completely destroys that argument.

@@Lord_Poyo Unless you take in the fact that the force can give the middle finger to physics. If The Force wants to decrease the rate at which an object travels while preserving it's inertia, it can. because it's not real, it's a made up power. Oh, and another possible theory: what if Force Slow isnt really slowing the object, but taking a few moments of the objects action and extending them? For example, if it took 1 second for me to take one step, and someone used force slow on me, now it takes me 5 seconds. meaning Force Slow took a 1 second span and stretched it over 5. this could also help to explain why objects keep momentum, because they aren't being held back, and no force is being pushed onto them, The Force is just bending time around them to make a short amount of time last longer.

Wut?

empty not dead... www.goodreads.com/quotes/801132-there-is-a-god-shaped-vacuum-in-the-heart-of-each
in this context call it THE FORCE

@@barnylaine Just so you know, the article you linked is both from "goodreads.com" and is now deleted from the website. Seems both legit and reliable lmao.

@@cyanide6461 now it works there is no .
scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Blaise+Pascal+%E2%80%9CThere+is+a+God-shaped+vacuum%22&btnG=
That should do if if you whant it more formal

Yup, that's why I'm dead inside too.

I think he was just counting the FNaF ones

@@lil-scykoh-3922 lol

Now I'm guilty that I have watched everything film theory and game theory.

I’ve done more

@@Applewasher m

True, I think this is also why Jedi Knight Jedi Academy had force speed instead of force slow. Which in single player made the entire world slow around you.

they spin in opposing directions anyways with no contact.

@@D3__ thats not really the point, he's pointing out that the gears don't both appear slow, so then Cal can't be speeding up

So true

this has nothing to do with your comment I just think that lance is better than shiro lol

@@ishaanb4507 wtf are you talking about?

But Lancer dies every episode.

I love rogue one

Me, in the driver's seat waiting at a light: "When I snap my fingers, the light will change from red to green."

103589 I would agree but we don’t know if Chirrut was born force sensitive or not

who? the blind person?

@@maximillian5102 It's true that we don't, but we do know he's been training for years. Concidering that his abillities are still far below those of a jedi I concluded that he probably is not born with the same amount of midiclorians as a jedi.

Makes more sense than this bloody theory

William Horrigan there is one problem with that at least in the context of this game. You don’t get push or pull till later

@@joneskleid9501 but as we see from the training visions, he was able to do it before. He might was just too traumatized to use push and pull because those were the abilities his master used before his death, while force slow is only based on push and pull, but not connected to his trauma

What about gram and milligram ren?

William Horrigan that’s the same way I thought it was, and it makes sense in the context to how it’s used in the game, because you can only use it on one object

an attempt was made

Also, the force user's fall speed remains normal when using force slow.

Yeah, I agree. If I slow one stormtrooper, every other trooper is moving at normal speed. The theory of speeding up your own perceptions when you use Force Slow doesn't have a lot of evidence behind it.
I like the theory, but it's instantly disproved by playing the actual game.

When he first focused on Force Slow in this video I was like "please, please don't try to say it's actually force speed, cause it's so clearly not in this game" then he proceeds to do it and I'm like "wtf dude, you're literally showing footage of 1 thing being slowed while the rest of the world is at regular speed." There's no way he overlooked this, or at least I want to believe he didn't. This feels very much like he just really wanted to push this idea and hoped no one noticed the blatant flaw in it. I'm sorry, but this one felt a bit lazy to me... and forced, haha joke. *rolls eyes*

@@christopherhornback4000 I feel the same way. If they use force slow in other media, maybe they could do it like Matpat's explanation were everything is slowed down instead of just one object

That's not you touching the wall, that's you being repulsed by the magnetic repulision of the electrons in the atoms that make up the wall.

Conundrum ok boomer

fatnut fortnite this is the reason why this generation is going to crap, you just can’t let him be?

@@fruwu5985 ok alpher

@fatnut fortnite ok boomer doesnt fit dude was just saying the science

But it is, young grasshopper.

@@boredfangerrude Don't lecture me, Obi-wan

Thank you!

Yes this theory is bullshit and wrong

I like the bird profile photo

@@IpushironAgkyra and @nick smith - Thank you, really appreciate it! His name is Gerrit, he sadly passed away in May last year

Ayush and harshit ki vines bruh calm down it’s a theory not a exact thing

It's just a theory, A game theory. 😆

As much as I loved the vid, I honestly didn't believe the supercharging part right from the get go

Up until he talks about how the player //speeds up// I thought he was going to say that the jedi's connection to the force means they can access and manipulate the force in other beings (manipulating the force through the midochlorians in other objects), which would also explain how the plague force power enables some jedi's to poison people without contact. Doesn't really explain how it works on non-living objects but maybe they're all just covered in a lot of space germs :d

The only thing MatPat understands worse than Star Wars is... Um...
Yeah no, he's completely Star Wars illiterate. At least this is better than his Solo video though. Good grief.

Steffen Day LOL! Very good point haha

ye i adressed this as well, matpat isnt right ab this one, cal is technically a grey jedi, and unlocked the slow ability through dark side emotions

yeah I think that makes sense

Maybe he focuses on one thing, he moves faster and so do the others that one thing tho stays on normal speed

@@graciedrawz3195 that would mean that hes physically speeding up certain objects and slowing others, that would require way more energy and force power. I 1000% positive hes just slowing bois and stuff down induvidually

It’s just a theory. A game theory!