Malik Nabors Runs 4.35 40, Is Marvin Harrison Jr Still Top WR In The Draft? | Pat McAfee Show
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They are 1A & 1B feel like you can't miss on either it's just the preference of the coach and organization
There isn't. MHJ has been 1 for the past 2 years. Why do you let media narrative drive your thinking?
Is it like the AJ Green, Julio Jones draft?
@@winstonsyme5899yes a good comp for Marv is AJ Green. Nabers is more like a jamarr chase type both are some of the best prospects in past 10 Years
No they’re not MHJ wipes bro
@@jervi9529 just say you didn’t really watch nabers
"Nabers going to be a first round draft pick" 👏🏻
Brilliant!
Doesn’t matter to me cuz I know the patriots are gonna draft a white reviver at 3 that used to play 3rd string qb outta mayo university
And he will be the best slot receiver in the league by year 3
@@ccc3baker355 yes and if they pick mhj he ends up being a bust because pats logic
Need some more revivers in this league
The patriots are not drafting a receiver at 3 lol there isn’t a chance in hell. It’s either QB or trade back.
Joe Alt
Bro called him PALUMBO instead of Lombardi AHAHAHAHA
I like to bet on LSU recievers! Especially for fantasy football. I've been saying for awhile my hot take was Nabers is slightly more productive than Harrison in the NFL. Think JJ and Ja'marr. Both should be great though
Odell too
I was expecting Boutte to be a dawg.. still waiting on that one. Otherwise LSU has a list a mile long in the NFL
@trocka3524 He struggled to produce his last season at LSU as well, though... I think the hype behind him was more being an LSU receiver than his actual college career, tbh.
Being in the Patriots offense damn sure hasnt done him any favors though.
Brian Thomas ain't no joke either
@@FightrForLifeBoutte was amazing, then he had a super bad ankle injury. Wasn't the same when he came back.
This is the guy that said the montez sweat trade to the bears was the dumbest trade you can possibly make... he's a joke.
He's one of the biggest shills in the game.
Herbo finally getting speed at WR 🙏
I hope the chargers take him
They're moving down
@@rzawistowski33 needs to be worth it
MHJ has an nfl HOF dad coaching him on how to be a football player. 40 times are smoke and mirrors. Its a track event for NFL athletes. Wide receivers dont just run in a straight line in shorts and a tank top. They cut, block, run routes etc. With pads. This talk is crazy.
People acting like Marvin is some slow possession receiver lol he hit over 21 mph last season multiple times and like the second most in all of college football.
His top end is fine, it's his explosiveness that lacks a little. And the YAC criticism. Besides that he's as complete as can be.
@@jroe25yt8But he runs routes like devante adams. very fluid doesn’t make unnecessary movements but knows how to create seperation
Didn’t Harrison workout at CJ Stroud’s pro day last year? Isn’t that footage available? Shouldn’t be a big deal, he’s a blue chip WR
Rich eisen reported that he told everybody last year at CJ pro day he wasn't going to work out at the pro day this year.
Is MHJ still the top WR? Are we serious rn bro lmao
It’s not a terrible take tbh. While I don’t necessarily agree, time is genuinely the only way to know for sure. In the end, a lot of it relies on system and situation.
@@IAMLEGIT2323 all cs bro from LSU ran a faster 40 they wanna say he up there w MHJ now 🤣 b fr man these “sport” shows been running outta material. Before that 40 time (which ain’t even all that) bro was never in the same convo as MHJ
Nabers and Odunze would be number 1s in any other draft. It’s not that crazy of a take. This is one of the deepest WR classes of all time.
@@Flirken1and MHJ would be a #1 WR pick in any draft. That's the difference
@@HeyYall_BynxHereEveryone knows Marvin will be the first WR off the board. They still have to fill 3 hours talking mainly about the NFL when no football is being played though
LSU players become SUPER STARS 95% of the time. Bayou Bengals are proven warriors! (Yes I'm biased) 😂
Not a hot take though. People like to highly praise all those osu receivers, but none of them are better than anything that has had praise out of lsu in the past 5 years.
Facts! ⚠️
lsu receivers were always my favorites. obj, chase, jefferson. they were ready to be a star.
@@IAMLEGIT2323 Nabors will easily outshine MHJ next season. He's faster, tougher and had to do it all without daddy's money. I just feel like if Marvin's last name wasn't Harrison Jr., we wouldnt even be having this conversation. MHJ is a baller, no doubt. I just feel like Nabors is more raw, durable and had to play much tougher teams last season.
@@ImTheBestestEver You're a true son of the south with that mindset. MHJ is already proven he is #1.
Malik had a heisman throwing at him while Marvin had Kyle maccord stop it Marvin was carrying that OH team 🤣🤣
I mean, looking at the tape I'd say Nabers has the edge. He's inside and outside, fast and strong, quick and thick.
especially thick, right?
He had another good wr on the other side and had Heisman throwing to him and has barley 100 less yards than Marvin Kyle maccord
Sound alike me in bed
was a two man show in the boot this year
That dime the was thrown at 2:39 could of been a lot easier if he looked left lol. That guy cooked the DB
Fun fact. Grab a stop watch, start it and stop it as fast as you can. it will be around .10 seconds. Thats the difference between between a 4.35 and a 4.45 which isnt much, the players IQ and nows how to be in right place at the right time is better then .10 seconds in the 40. Point is the 40 is not as important as people make it out to be
lmao just say u dont know ball. the difference of a 4.3 and 4.4 is definitely noticeable. i agree 40 is not as important, but u can definitely tell a 4.3 athlete from a 4.4.
@@ricardorivera7549 So you could watch 10 random WR's in the 40 and you could tell me what each one ran? Like you would know that each attempt was in 4.3's, the 4.4's or the 4.5's or even 4.6's?
@@CR250rSMITH u can tell when they run in the open field and turn a corner and fly past the DBs. the 4.4 guy will get caught half the time in a long run, u give the 4.3 guy a lane and he is scoring it 99% of the time. like cmon, u can tell the difference in speed of a 4.3 guy like DK metcalf, a tyreek (duh), a marquise brown, christian watson etc from a guy like aiyuk, lamb, rashee rice etc.
@@CR250rSMITH btw, im NOT saying the 40 yard dash is an important measurement at all. i agree w that. change of direction and burst, acceleration is much more important in the NFL. most plays are around 5-20 yards, so stop and start ability is much more important realistically.
Running a 4.35 at your pro day is like running a 4.39 - 4.40 at the combine.
you act like that still isnt fast asf
@@davidwilliams6392 oh it is, but there is also a huge difference between 4.35 and 4.39 - 4.40.
4.40 is kind of what your expecting/hoping for from most starting WRs at the NFL level. 4.35 is a top end burner.
Like Adonai Mitchell or Brian Thomas Jr... if you run a sub 4.35 your ass isn't getting caught till you hit the endzone if you can get past the defense there just aren't that many CBs/Safeties that can match that speed.
laser is still laser. no hand times
@@davidwilliams6392 Nowhere in their statement did they imply that
Have you seen the dude play? Lol
Nabers is impressive and his head seems right wish the Chiefs could get him lol
Nabers is better especially since the NFL banned hip drop tackles , Marvin has no YAC . Malik Nabers is a nightmare to tackle
Don’t need YAC if you catch tds in the red zone. Whats more important yards or points?
@@dubstepkitty88nabers had the same amount of tds and way more yards
@@Deereal28Better QB too
@@Vichinsky-ox8px don’t matter his stats still better than mhj stats last year when he had stroud
@@Deereal28 It does matter.
People forget what MHJ did against Georgia. He’s already has leg up on receivers with the route tree and being pro ready.
Nabors did the same vs all SEC teams
Pat looks in WM shape
Both gonna be elite. It's just gonna come down to QB play to who has the better career. And health obviously but that's a given
Chiefs just got a backdoor WR/RB without using a draft pick or a roster place getting LRZ
Hes experimental, I doubt he'll make a ton of noise in his first year outside of the new kickoffs
A random question do any players struggle adjusting to getting two feet in, in tight catches or sideline catches compared to the one needed in college. Or are they so good not a factor
Malik and scary terry have like identical measurements and numbers
Everyone already knew about Marv before the season. Nabors got noticed now, and the thing about it, that's funny is the fact Marv was ready for the NFL 2 years ago.
nabers still had 1000 yards last year and a lot of people had already ranked him as the number 2. receiver going into the year?
Only casuals just heard of Nabors. He was a big time recruit and played well for a few years
Y’all remember the year Justin Jefferson got drafted? He wasn’t the number 1 WR drafted and made teams regret it.
another lsu wideout too
He also went to the perfect system and gets 29 targets a game
@@cperkins5050 Maybe he's just that good
@@cperkins5050 gets the targets cuz he is wide open
thats an outlier tho jettas is literally on pace to be a top 5 wr ever if he keeps this up for long.
MHJ and Nabers are both elite prospects. Both will be top 5-10 WRs in the NFLf or a long time
for people doubting go watch steve smith's breakdown, nabers makes dbs look literally lost on the field.
This reminds me of the Charles Rogers, Andre Johnson talk when they went 2 and 3. One of those ended up a very bad draft choice lol.
Charles Rogers was a bust because of injuries unfortunately.
Rodgers was only bad because he went to Detroit and he loved weed more than anything else. Rodgers is more talented than both Harrison and Nabors.
Marvin Harrison is scared to workout. I think it’s because he doesn’t have sub 4.5 speed.
I think he's at least in the 4.4's. But beyond top end speed, I think he lacks a little explosiveness, specially compared to Nabers. Also less of a YAC threat. I could definitely see some teams grading Nabers as WR1.
During a game against Youngstown State this past season MHJ reached a top speed of 22.2 mph... so while he may not run a sub 4.5 he is definitely capable of hitting that type of speed
Prepare for future in NFL or lose months of progress training how to do combine drills.......tough choice 🤔
The over analyzing is crazy you guys act like MHJ isn’t an absolute stud because he didn’t run a 40 yard dash what does he have to gain by preforming. If he gets drafted later he goes to a “better team”
Nabers*
The old underwear 40😂😂😂😂
Chargers picking up either one 🔥
"Marvison Harrison"
Brian Thomas gonna win leagues
He got so screwed on the Biliknikof (SP?). I mean, Nabors numbers BLEW Harrison’s out the water. It wasn’t even close. Harrison literally won bc of his name. If he had a different last name with those same stats, he wouldn’t have won. Fact
I have taken a time out from the show but coming back. What happened to the tank top??
A 4.35 at a pro day is like a 4.4 at the combine.
the thing ab it is, any team is STUPIDDDD to not take him off the board as #1 WR BUT if a team passes…they will 100% regret it
I prefer MHJ... but I totally understand those who prefer Nabers. Can we just agree both are generational wrs.
I think this goes back to jamarr Chase and Justin Jefferson's draft class, they were both top of the line and they still are producing at the top of their classes I don't see this going any different
MHJ has no Yac ability
😂
wild thing to say lol
@@Rowsy91 not really if you've watched him. On post, outs, digs, etc... mhj goes down relatively easy. He'll get you a extra 1-3 yrds and go down fast.
As a colts fan I think mhj isn’t that great and I heard he doesn’t help old ladies cross the street he should definitely slip in the draft to the 15th. 😅
"Nabors"
If Marvin Harrison Jr has an elite work ethic why wouldn't he WORK out at his pro day?
His dad told him not to bro.
@@LjLong-wx1pk Just what a team wants, a player whose dad is calling the shots from their cell phone. Diva personified.
@@BigginsInAmerica the teams also told him there was no reason for him too work out so your wrong
@@justinalley3399 Sounds like he doesn't have that dog in him to me. Who doesn't enjoy working out?
Nabors got HOSED by not getting the Biletnikoff so he should be the 1st WR taken.
I am bias I want Marvin Harrison Jr to come play in Indy. I don't care if we trade up and get him. I think it would be amazing if by magic he falls to Indy.
He's not getting past #4.
And he's really not getting past Tennessee. And I'm a Bears fan. Would love to get him at 9, but even in the craziest scenarios he can't get that far.
Stupidest case scenario for him dropping as far as illogically possible.
Top 3 are QBs. #4,5,6 are Malik Nabers, Joe Alt, and JJ McCarthy.
How is #7 not Marvin Harrison Jr.?
He's definitely not getting past Rome Odunze!
Let's be dumb and say Tennessee really wants defense and goes Dallas Turner. Let's be dumber and say Atlanta wants edge as well and loves Verse because they already have great weapons. We've gotten to pick 9 using only stupidity. Bears are taking Marvin. No chance anyone in the draft gets him though unless you trade a king's ransom and jump the Titans.
Did Lombardi just confess to impersonation? Lock this boy upppppppp
Bloodlines rarely lie bro. If Marvin has a lick of his old man's skill set? Game over.
As a Seahawks fan I want a qb or a wr lol
I think Nabors has the higher ceiling but Marv is a cant miss. Cant go wrong with either
i feel like mhj will be diva and soft in the nfl with injuries etc. and end up demanding a trade at some point. Maybe not, I just get that vibe from his camp
Nah when he was interviewing he told the teams every 32 you need me to show more? And then said no.
Chargers should lose their minds and trade their 2nd round pick, 2025 1st, and 2026 1st to the Cardinals for 4th overall. Then draft MHJ and Nabers.
Headlines like this are why the Eagles passed on Justin Jefferson
fr I been sayin it's justin jefferson vs. jalen reagor all over again. Amari cooper and kevin white. sammy watkins and mike evans. tavon austin and deandre hopkins. Just take the guy who has proved to be a better receiver, we drafting pass catchers not sprinters
@@KRplus_Sucks_Eggs lol I get your point but Nabers will be elite too and doesnt compare to Raegor, white, austin etc at all 😂
@@KRplus_Sucks_Eggsif you look at last year Nabors was the better WR.
@@jeaneratte6774 Nabors Had a QB MJH didnt
@@justinalley3399 that’s a good excuse in the NFL but in college, when you are recording less than 30 receiving yards against sub-par teams like Minnesota, Rutgers and Indiana, that gives off a bit of a red flag. Dude is talented, no doubt, but he’s bound to have bad QB play at the next level and against much better defenses.
If we going better “player” it’s Nabers. If we talking pure wr, Rome and Marv are miles better. Nabers catch radius is no where near those 2. It’s like comparing Deebo Samuel to Deandre Hopkins.
More explosive with much better YAC ability... depends what teams value more. To me he's going to be an even more explosive DJ Moore... which is scary.
Neither Harrison or Rome can separate like Nabors. Nabors also dominated SEC DB’s not guys from the Big10 or PAC12. We will see.
I sure as hell hop you won that buckle in a rodeo bro
"Nabors" smh
The combine just muddies up the draft. Pick the best football player! Not the guy with big hands and can run around cones
Say what you will about rankings, draft grades, etc... But MHJ won the Biletnikoff off of hype. Nabers clearly deserved it.
As a Charger fan, I still want MHJ… MHJ is significantly bigger than Nabers and I think he’s proven to be the best contested catch/jump ball receiver of the past decade. I hope the Cardinals take Nabers
So is it Nabers or Nabors??
If Harrison Jr had a different name I think it would be a 1A, 1B type of deal w Harrison Jr and Nabers His dad, genes, and growing up around football guys makes sense to put him over Nabers, but I just don’t see how he’s this generational top prospect. When we’re talking about the last WR to come out and be drafted this high we’re talking Calvin Johnson. I’m not saying he’ll be a bust or anything crazy, I just feel like top 3 is too high.
MHJ going at #4
Nabors #5
Rome and Nabers are gonna be better than MHJ depending on team fit. MHJ is nice tho. def all top 10 picks
Harrison Jr is the same size and plays just like another future hall of famer that retired from Arizona. They won’t pass up the chance to get another Larry Fitzgerald type receiver
Might wanna put on the Malik tape against Florida state and see if y’all still that high on the kid. He got shut down
Margin is a giant
I like both but I’d take nabers
I’ve been having Nabers over Harrison
I think JD and Nabers is 1 and 2 guys. Just none of the analyst like LSU. Hell most didn’t have Joe Burrow as the first pick, even after what he accomplished.
What analyst were you listening to?
@@Jralford8 24-7 sports. This is one of multiple analyst that wanted Tua ahead of Burrow.
Tua Tagovailoa vs. Joe Burrow is one of the more common discussions leading into the NFL Combine later this month, where one of the top-flight quarterbacks will be in interview-only mode while another showcases his talents on the field in front of scouts, player personnel types and general managers in Indianapolis.
Burrow is the presumptive No. 1 overall pick in most early draft projections, but there's been a handful of analysts in recent days who are pushing Alabama's lefty toward the top spot, given the positivity that has surfaced coming from injury updates.
Adam Sheffner even said Tua would go over Burrow had Tua not got hurt. Thats after the year Burrow had
Steven A Smith, says Tua will be better than Joe, before they got drafted. Just about all of them want Tua ahead of Burrow.
Nabers is WR1
MHJ said, "Turn on the tape."
Malik has better tape
@@jeaneratte6774facts 😂 Nabers is better
@@jeaneratte6774 no
@@justinalley3399 yes
Any chance the giants trade up at 4 for marv??
As a giants fan please make a mistake and give us Marvin
marvinson harrison
Let's be honest 80% of you. Having an opinion right now probably never even watched a full game of Ohio State to know how good marvin really is. You just see the highlights and talk out of your a**
They just wanna punish marvin for not working g out.
Don't show me college TDs that are not considered NFL TDs when hyping a NFL draft prospect.......
i feel like MHJ at worst is keenan Allen. even if hes not gonna seperate after the catch, he runs great routes and catches eveything. Id love to see him fall to the chargers
Deep ass wr draft
Let's talk about ohio state WRs vs lsu wrs nfl production?
pac man back , bunch of haters were saying that Pat wasnt gonna bring em back.
This just them reaching because the draft is the only thing to talk about . Going be like this for a couple weeks
Hey let's keep tanking Marvin Harrison so he's still there at 15
Thats a RB playing WR
Marvin the Martian us the best player .....
Asking Mike for his opinion isn’t really credible
I want Nabers to go to KC solely for the State Farm commercial possibilities.
Impossible
Harrison Jr won’t get picked first because he’s already acting like a diva. And no team wants to deal with that
I think you're absolutely right he had a problem with that in O State he wore a expensive watch during a game no team has time for that b*******especially if they're picking in the top five
maxx Crosby WILL be the 2024 DPOY!!!
A charger !!!!!!!!!
Harrison is a great receiver but he's getting hype based on his name more than his play at this point. Nabers did better than Harrison in just about every measurable metric except for touchdowns. I understand he had a Heisman QB in Daniels throwing to him but he played against tougher competition almost every week and still put up pretty crazy numbers. If you remove the names from the equation and look at numbers alone, Nabers is clearly the better receiver.
U just said it bro! He had a heisman QB and he did better in every category. I wonder why? MHJ is the best it’s really not that close
@@gregoryjones8440Heisman qb bro mhj would have 3k yards with jayden
@@LjLong-wx1pk maybe not that much lol 😂 but he definitely beats nabers in all those categories
@@gregoryjones8440 yeah I was exaggerating
He also had to compete with Brian Thomas, Jr. 🐅
Nabors is great, but Harrison not working out is fooling people. I'm taking Harrison
He knows he’s a lock for top 5 either way he doesn’t care about what we think about his work ethic dudes a complete stud. Team situation and scheme has a lot of deciding success I could see nabers going over Harrison just because of the offense a certain teams wanting to run. Either way with these guys on the board you can’t lose 😊
If Harrison had a normal name nabers is the wr1. Film don’t lie
If you think that then it definitely lies to you
@@bradleywright202 eye test. Nabers is a more refined jamar chase. Marv is like Higgins
@@rickxaramyeah stop talking lmao the bias is crazy.
@@rickxaramnabers is more faster but mhj is more pure. Not that explosive as nbers but he has more technique getting off the line with almost no energy mhj can run every route in the route tree to. And more if you would like to
Nabers better you can’t miss on a LSU WR
Mhj really isn’t that good . Hes not fast or a good route runner. Hes just a good possession receiver but he’s not a pure athlete that can take over a game . Hes a Quinton Johnson from tcu
Pac Man lit he cant speak clearly
Texans trade up for Marvin Harrison jr because they have stroud