Pat McAfee Reacts To Lance Armstrong's 30 For 30
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- 게시일 2020. 05. 24.
- Did you watch The Lance 30 For 30? What were your thoughts?
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“Our drugged up guy, beat your drugged up guy” -Bill Burr
...he said it best!
Cold hard truth anybody who hates is just a hater he's the goat
The drugs are a small part of the evil of this guy.
I love Burr but Lance Armstrong is a god damn psycho, ruining lives to keep his fake ass glory.
This is only partially true. Yeah, a lot of the peleton were doping, however, there were a lot of clean dudes that got beat in that era that just refused to dope and retired or were harrassed out of the sport. Some of those also being "our guys" like Andy Hampsten who finished 4th in 1992, and was the leader of Lance's Motorola team the year pre-doping, pre-cancer Lance had to bail out of the Tour.
Christophe Bassons had better VO2 stats than Lance and a lot of the other guys in the tour, but outspokenly stuck to not doping. During one stage of the Tour de France, the entire pack decided to slow up just to hold him back. When he took off, they picked up their pace and caught him, and then Lance pulled on his shoulder mid race, told him that he was a disgrace to cycling, he should shut up, and that he should quit cycling.
In one of the best battles I've ever seen in the Tour De France, Andy Schleck battles Alberto Contador on stage 17 in 2010. (Armstrong was once again this year, and was 22nd before they kicked him out.) The two of them broke free in the mountains, and raced the final 15km against Contador each attacking and counter-attacking up the mountain climb. Schleck was clean and won the stage. Contador was on drugs and was stripped of the overall win.
I love cycling as a sport. It's tainted to all hell, but there were some phenomenal performances laid down with heart and god-given talent that go for nothing because of these guys who just wanted it bad enough to dope.
He's cheating wasnt the problem. The fact that in his quest to lie about it, he attempted to ruin ppls lives because they told the truth.
☝️
His cheating was the problem! If he wasn't cheating, there literally was no problem.
Spot on
And bullying his teammates
Ben Gorman the top 15 were all cheating
Pat never lets a opportunity to show his biceps go by.
*fatceps
Tell him it is not the gun show 🤣
I must have missed that part
one of his laundry days must be just washing all his sleeveless shirts
Would you say he’s bi-ceptual?
"The guy was a sociopath on a bicycle, alright? As far as I'm concerned, we got off easy. If that guy was workin for a corporation he probably woulda been pouring stuff in the water supply, doin' God knows what" - Bill Burr
Lol. “Our roided up guy beat your roided up guy”. That and “She stepped on the heads of those little people for five years” are my two favorites jokes from that clip.
Lmao the number of American athletes banned per year for cheating is insane but the guy that also made $470 million for cancer research is some how the worst one
@HitlerActually really because the % of people that survive cancer has drastically increased in that time so maybe spend a little more time on Google and less being a tool
HitlerActually first of all that’s just wrong cancer treatment is constantly changing. A lot of cancer research focuses on non invasive drugs that are used in tandem with chemo. Just because chemo is still used doesn’t mean cancer treatment hasn’t changed. Also, every dollar that goes towards research that doesn’t produce a successful drug is still useful.
@@abdouldmml They recently discovered that injecting influenza vaccines into 'cold' tumors, turns them to 'hot'.. so our bodies can recognize it.. triggering an immune system response and killing the tumor. Good news indeed. (ScienceDaily, Harvard, MedicalNewsToday)
My dude can’t keep that cigar lit for his life lol.
I'm always wondering what cigar he's smoking
j Camacho Corojo!
j he should just drop the cigars on the show. Lol
Sam Forbes he’s born in 83’ millennials are literally 83’-00. Hes the first wave.. growing pains lol.
@@jakel.1724 probably a douche too
Bill Burrs bits on Lance Armstrong was spot on 👌🏽
Kyle Ferguson link?
Link pls
“Our roided our guy beat your roided out guys” was the gist of it.
Not quite the best guy usually isn't the guy whose body reacts the best to drugs
Paul yeah, you take EPO then sit on your ass and you can win the Tour De France,ppl are delusional!
" A cycler." Ha! Nice one!
Lance did a few cycles in his days.
I lost it when he said this lol
@@sweetbabyrick5382 True dat.
The cycler
Glad I found this channel! You have a new subscriber!
I've heard a 100 cyclist stories about Lance Armstrong, still waiting to hear anyone say anything nice about him. Greg Lemond is the exact opposite, they despise each other, now I see why.
So you've existed in a world were George Hincappe doesn't exist or something?
Come on, bruh...
Get over it man... some people are great friends, and life long partners with Lance, and will always be so.
Don't join them if you don't want to, but don't join a chorus of people who don't know him, and still talk about him.
@@conanmcclanahan1069 right? It's like there's a massive following of Lance haters that want to all have a pitty party over all the bad things he did. We've all done some bad things in our life. People think because he treated people badly that it's like unforgivable. What makes any of us any better? I've done some horrible things to people I wish I could take back. You can tell the way he treated people is the main thing Lance regrets when looking back. I still love Lance. His podcast is super fun to watch too
@David Barton correction, Lance isn't just the greatest US cycler ever, he's the greatest cycler the sport has ever seen. Even if Lemond was using performance enhancing drugs like everyone else was in his era, who cares. They all were doing it, no difference with him or Lance. They both were amazing.
@@AoE2Underground if you talk with cycling heads, most would disagree.
Best Tour de France Rider ? Probably. But there are other races, too.
Eddy Merckx is the unanimous GOAT for cycling fans. (he doped too)
I met Lance three times back when I was an avid cyclist.
Once on a century ride called The Harpeth River during his time in Nashville with Cheryl Crow & once during two separate Tour De Georgia races his team was competing in.
All three he was very kind. Blunt, Arrogant, but kind and corneal too.
Right or wrong, He only ever went after anyone who went after him.
Like I said, right or wrong, if you left him alone, he was nice to ya. Lol!
I hope part 2 goes into more detail about the way he treated his teammates and friends if they didn't comply or tried to expose the truth. He threatened to ruin lives, blackball people from the sport, and sue to drown them in legal fees. Most people don't blame him for cheating, he was just evil.
Fire Dolphin Disagree. Most people are not smart enough to comprehend what you just wrote. Their brains aren’t intelligent enough to go past the doping.
He didnt just try. He actually RUINED lives. For realzies
It has to, that's the thing that really makes people feel bad
Lance Armstrong, although obviously confessed, still doesnt seem like he did anything based on how he talks in the doc and how the media didn't harass him that much (especially compared to Tiger Woods and adultery) but the one thing I want to see is how other cyclists handled his downfall and if he apologized to any of them
How many lives did the £470 million he raised for cancer research save? Aw but he was mean 😢
@@abdouldmml His foundation didn't fund cancer research. He kinda got everyone to think it did, but it didn't.
Pat “I think the Oprah got him” McAfee.
Ahhha what a clown
The Oprah interview was seen by millions so yeah that really blew everything up.
Right from MJ into Lance. Let’s do Iron Mike next, plus the story that starts with Bruce but finished with Caitlyn Jenner would be good.
Ok now you’re reaching, no one cares about the jenners!
ChangeHumanity you don’t care, not “we” but luckily television isn’t made just for you. I’m sure her story would be extremely fascinating. From one of the most popular athletes of the 70s, to stupid reality TV, to transgender poster child, that story would be extremely engaging. Tiger Woods would also be great, Gooden and Strawberry and their shared love of woman and coke would be great, too. Sports is full of great stories. Jim Thorpe would be epic too. The mega athletes are awesome, but the dramatic stories that are equally amazing but less known are my favorites. Again, just mine, because I can’t speak for everyone.
Mike Tyson has a good doc already, ESPN doesn't need to show more of him and ruin the good reputation established from his own doc
@@ChangeHumanity oooooooooooooooooooo
"Our roided up guy beat your roided up guy" "he's a sociopath on a bike" - Bill Burr.
Pat doing his best Jalen Rose impression with that bat
People still think that most athletes aren’t using PEDs.
I believe that most don't use PEDs
So
You think
You could be a pro athlete If you took
Juice
James Brasco did my comment say that? Obviously professional athletes are still the top 1% in genetics, they just also have to take peds to stay competitive due to the amount of ped use in sports.
Hahah just think winstil is illegal but training in high altitudes isnt, very similar outcomes
Those ppl.are very naive..most ppl.think wen someone is roids dey have to be muscle jacked amd that's not the case...its all specific to ur sport...the faster u can recover between workout the more intense n more u can train thus sharpening it skillfully beyond most ppl can do naturally..its only so much ur body can go naturally.... most high profile athletes im sure are on some form of HGH ...eg lebron
No matter what he will always be a 7 time champ!! All those guys were doing the same thing
Cadel Evans wasn't a drug cheat, don't know who he was ? he was the 1 clean rider in the top 10 , Lance and his doper buddies stole his prize money his endorsements and more importantly his glory, the fact you don't know who he is , just proves what an arsehole lance Armstrong was, Lances team mates felt so bad about screwing over Cadel Evans , they helped him win the 2011 Tour de France.
Barry bonds still had to hit the ball
onicron prime not the same lance literally never came out of his saddle there’s only one objective in cycling pedal
SuperJohn12354 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 preach
It's weird how open everyone in the doc talks about this casually like they didn't steal money and call out the entire system as needing drugs to be slightly entertaining or possible
Like the doc is almost making it okay and understandable and I have no idea of how I should feel about that
Amazing take.
Glad to see another person still actively using their own individual logic filters.
Cadel Evans wasn't a drug cheat, don't know who he was ? he was the 1 clean rider in the top 10 , Lance and his doper buddies stole his prize money his endorsements and more importantly his glory, the fact you don't know who he is , just proves what an arsehole lance Armstrong was, Lances team mates felt so bad about screwing over Cadel Evans , they helped him win the 2011 Tour de France.
It happened. No one is running from these facts.
@@SuperJohn12354 He cheated just like everyone else in that sport. Notice you said top 10. Not top 3. They didn't steal that dudes glory. 1st educate before the cancer and dope Lance was still a monster on that bike. Stop crying about things that don't affect you
conan mcclanahan you can morally be against the use of it all and still be understanding of the use because of the situation. The competition uses it so if you want to compete at that level you do it. Or find a new career
Pat real quick question. How many time were you told to shut up because you were a punter?
Quick question. Why are you listening then?
@@joehung1552 that's not an insult, that's what happens when you play the position most the times
I can't help but think that punters get some respect - provided they're consistent, and make at least one tackle.
0 times that's the exact amount
I was reminded of Elliot Alderson's "Fxxk Society" speech while watching this…
When he said, "…it seems like our heroes our counterfeit…" Lance Armstrong popped up first.
When he came to New Zealand people here still embraced him. We understand what happened here in NZwe dont need to bury him hasn't he suffered enough. Stay blessed L. Armstrong
Im from here too and thought that was a joke. My mate raced him in a tri here and told him what he thought of him while riding against him. POS.
Aj got a bookshelf to make it look like that he reads lol
Hawks face just kills me.
Lance was one of the best riders i've seen. The guy was a monter in the Tour of France.
AJ’s feeling that cigar buzz.
In that era, if you weren't doping you weren't even competitive.
Damn aj with that cigar!
He’s the man
makes a lot of sense to me that in games like football which are extremly team oriented the ultra competitive but also social able guys thrive but in solo sports like cycling that is not needed and might even hurt your success
When you listen to Pat he gets it. The pain threshold for cross country runners,skiers and cyclists at the elite level is..overwhelming. Armstrong is wavering a little..he had a phase were he was talking about his kids competing in athletics and how he would try and temper their personality and expectations to benefit them..
And always remember Lance's first coach was Eddie B..eastern bloc..do what it takes to win..
Pat including that Lance is the best of the best on the bike..and an cocky a-hole will get me to watch more..good show
Chael P Sonnen was right
Uncle Chael is always right
Undefeated. And undisputed
What did Uncle Chael say?
I just came here from his video 🤣
True GOAT of all sports. He could’ve easily dominated every known sport at the highest level
A.J's mic sounds like he's deep sea diving. Might wanna upgrade the sound quality.
Maybe if he quit the cool guy cigar. It looks like he's trying to do something else.
Lance is the man!!!!
The cycling sanctioning bodies LOVED ignoring steroids until the press caught on. Just like the NFL loved ignoring headshots until CTE lawsuits started. Hating Lance for doing steroids in cycling is like hating mid 90's NFL players for headshots. He came from an era where it was widespread. All the most competitive humans will do whatever their sport tolerates until the sport doesn't tolerate it anymore.
If you read all of the comments on here, most people don't hate Lance for cheating. They hate Lance and think he's a dirtbag because he tried to ruin people's lives to cover up his cheating.
@@rexstetson1717 people came after him so he went after them, no one was innocent in this whole story
Armstrong's fiercest competitor Jan Ullrich is a nutcase as well. Pretty sad actually.
Anyone who hasn't watched The Armstrong Lie and Icarus on Netflix should change that immediately btw
yet to watch the armstrong doc but icarus was really good
Icarus was incredible!
One thing you think should be talked about is the fact he had Cancer won 7 tour de France titles and oh ya, beat cancer and kept lean body muscle up, energy up etc. No cure for cancer, don't do steroids yet they've helped people beat cancer..
Don't hold Lance up on a pedestal
Lance still doesn't sound sorry for anything. He's just sorry he got caught, which is why he won't forgive Floyd Landis because Landis' testimony is what led to Lance's downfall.
haven't watched a video in a month, STILL WITH THAT DAMN CIGAR! I'll give it another month.
Wtf does the cigar do to you
Is there anywhere that the lance video can be seem....I’m from Australia and any assistance would be greatly appreciated
That's Pat's fidget spinner lol
I thought was going to start swinging that bat he was holding throughout almost the whole video and start smashing things in that room he was in. Lol
The William Sisters should have statues built of themselves in Los Angeles CA
X-country mentioned for the first time EVER on a sports talk show. Thanks, Pat!
"Planning plans"
Lol Michael Jordan calls his teammates names, He’s the ultimate competitor, do anything to win.... people still love him
It's one thing to be ultra competitive on the playing field/track/whatever, but it's vital to keep it there. Otherwise you're basically gonna be an asshole. It's likely that Brady or Manning are very well grounded by others who can call them out on their BS when needed. We all need a little of that in our lives!
And ray guy was great.
Man this is the best show out right now ! I feel bad whenever I forget to like or comment just to show support
I have to say I am enjoying this as much as the Michael Jordan Documentary
Been following Lance since he was a 17 year old junior triathlete, always liked him. A fierce competitor who beat cancer and raised hundreds of millions of dollars for cancer research. I make no excuses for him he doped like everyone else in cycling at the time. I don’t think he should be stripped of his victories. But all things considered Greg Lemond was vindicated and he is the greatest cyclist America has ever produced.
What people don’t get is what separates Lance from other elite athletes is he has all the signs & symptoms of a psychopathic narcissist.
Bingo...thats what it's all about. He's a vile evil human.
Killer instinct, that's what made him win. Just like Jordan, a once in a lifetime athlete like lightning striking. This is what made them the best. The willingness to do whatever it took. They trained harder and performed better than all of them.
Wow a discussion of super competitive people and no mention of Romanowski? I'm actually really surprised.
Pro cycling IS a team sport!
Damn all that! I never got into watching pro sports to watch the average compete! Put them on every performance enhancement substance you can possibly find!
I thought his story was that he just walked out of a bar and started running at first
The amazing part of lance armstrong is his recovery from cancer. It sounded like he was on his death bed for a while. SO whatever he did to recover from that should be the focus.
I remember most of the Nike stuff my mom bought me was from Ross and was always “livestrong” gear. Makes so much sense now
Armstrong was a fuckin gangster.
How do I get one of those masks?!?!?
He played the game better than the rest
The best sociopaths, use "philanthropy" to hide behind their intentions
I never gave a crap about cycling until Lance Armstrong. I still watch because of him. Doping in cycling seems to be the norm rather than the exception. I don't hate the guy. At times I pity him. The greatest Tour de France's I've ever watched involve him and Jan Ulrich. I couldn't have done what he did if the gave me every steroid that was ever produced. Floyd Landis same thing. Sorry I'm not a hater.
Get me on those Lance Armstrong supplements
Blood transfusions... have fun
@@hamilt55467 thanks 🙏
Lance is a God
LONER - YES - Endurance athletes are driven, not always a great thing...
Armstrong had an entire team 8 other cyclist which only had the sole purpose to helped Armstrong win the tour. If you have followed cycling you know this. Other teams have different goals and are only there to win a stage or two. Others might have a captain which the hope can win but the team has other plans as well. Armstrong was there to win but he didn't do it by him self. Far from it.
good point. Lance (despite the doping) made sure the team had the BEST of everything and trained the longest and hardest. He was maniac when it came to training and preparation. I think that's why he won 7 Tours in a row! Look at Team Sky the most recent dominant team, while they have won what 7 Tours with Wiggins, Froome,( Benal the young guy) and the guy that won 2 years ago. But not consecutive and different guys won due to injury etc.
the guys probably could not even name other cyclist. They should stick to football talk.
I do understand not wanting to keep yourself at a competitive disadvantage and I probably would have done what Lance was doing if everyone else was doing it too.
There's some part of me deep down that lets just say I wouldn't be surprised if Phelps was on something if he ever did an Oprah interview in the next 5-10 years
Possibly, but I met him when he was 16 in Orlando beating adults. He has abnormally large feet, limbs and even hands. He was a dick even at 16 yrs old.
I mean they literally drug test before almost every race at large meets.
All these athletes are on something. A 300 pound man running faster than the speed of light cough cough *NFL PLAYERS* is defo on something.
Kenneth Polvent the guy has feet like flippers. It was the same for the Australian, Thorpe. He had a size 21 foot. They were built for swimming.
Phelps is a natural phenomenon. He was just on weed.
What he said about Betsy Andreau was bad enough. And she was telling the truth.
Lance is the goat
I learned that Lance forged a birth certificate to be able to compete as a 16 year old, so the moral of the story is:
He's been a CHEATER all his life!! Did enjoy the first one tho,looking forward to the next
I’ve never had a problem with Lance Armstrong using steroids. Dude raised hundreds of millions of dollars for cancer research, perhaps more than any athlete ever, and also put a spotlight on a sport that Americans and, probably a good majority of the world, could careless about.
For me he showed that you don't have to be 5 3 130 to ride a bike fast
I want to see how you feel about the undertaker: last ride docuseries seems pat loves wwe so much
I believe they looked into one tour de france final results to see how far down you needed to find someone ‘’clean’’. Clean in the since of no positive drug test in their career. I think they went down to the 11or 12 placed person with no dirty tests ever.
If by savage, you mean cheater and destroy the life of anyone in the way who wants to do it right, then yes. Savage he is
So the entire core of cyclers are savages. Sure but Lance was the best of em
I’m waiting for Pat to break everything around him with that bat...........
Ppl always forget those couple of years in Aj Hawks early career where he was just a complete boss then he fell off and wound up in Cincinnati
Some people are mad he cheated. Most people are mad because of the lives he ruined in extending his lies. He was the best cheater in a room full of cheaters.
Lance played by the same rules as EVERYBODY else. He was simply better than All of them.
Lance is the greatest cyclist ever PERIOD. It’s the fact that UCI hated the American who was destroying the field who was also cheating and exposing and banning him was the only way to beat him.
We need to see pat in road cycling race
I watched the Greg LeMond 30/30 they showed earlier that day and LeMond tells of an incident in the early 90's where Lance's mom asked him if he could help Lance by not making him be such an asshole. As I was watching it I think Lance came across as being a narcissist, not caring about anyone but himself.
He basically has Jordan's psychotic will and competitiveness in a sport that is one giant feedback loop for that behavior
Bro people need to bring up Kobe when talking abt competitiveness
U oughta watch greg lemonds doc, only american tour de france winner now, he did it clean too. He shouldve had another if his teamate didnt back stab him
Lance was a Champion in every field, even lying
one nut Lance back at it again
Dude even if LA lied about his age.... he was beating Pros in triathlon. It really didnt matter his age.
Stop inhaling that cigar
Ryan Jenkins He’s not inhaling it.
I competed in triathlons in Texas years ago, and saw Armstrong competing as a teenager at the time. He was what they called a "phenom", even back then. You can just tell he had the 'gift'. Too bad he ended up taking the road that he did...he probably didn't need to do so. Then again, with others cheating and doping...
He needed to use EPO. They were all using it. No EPO, no TDF and by that I mean you can't even ride in it in last place.
Is Lance putting cycling on the map again?
It is fair play, and it isn't fair play at the same time... Having "dirt" on people, requires those people to have gotten in the "mud" with you at least *one* time in their past. The more often, and less opposed to getting in the mud you become, the deeper and deeper you sink.
Lance was simply smart enough to swim to the bottom, and eat up ALL the rewards, as more, and more people jumped into the mud-pit.
Its wasn't "fair" because not all the riders were doping
Cadel Evans wasn't a drug cheat, don't know who he was ? he was the 1 clean rider in the top 10 , Lance and his doper buddies stole his prize money his endorsements and more importantly his glory, the fact you don't know who he is , just proves what an arsehole lance Armstrong was, Lances team mates felt so bad about screwing over Cadel Evans , they helped him win the 2011 Tour de France.
“Tom almost had a divorce” what, after running out on his first?
He was never married to Moynihan. He found out she was pregnant shortly after they broke up and was already dating Gisele
Lance has the same mindset MJ does.
Pat mcafee is the only man ill stop wacking it for to turn his videos on. Go vols love you pat
What are we learning from Lance, Michael, Tiger, etc.? You gotta be a jerk and you have step on others to get to the top. In the words of a wise person, "Be careful who you step on getting to the top, they're the same people you'll pass as you fall to the bottom".
The Oprah Got Him--haha haha
Henry cejudo is on that league
Lance tested as positive for HGH as AJ would for Nicotine.
Most everyone one forgets how many lives he ruined. Reputations lost, and every little bit of it for his ego...
Lol it’s bike racing.... anyone who doped their blood did it themselves.
@@michaelw234 but he is still popular
IF HE WAS THE NICEST GUY IN THE WORLD, this never would have happened. All would be forgiven