Our birth, fighting postpartum depression & C-section recovery | Ep. 29
소스 코드
- 게시일 2023. 08. 22.
- Baby August was born!! In this episode we talk through the process of having a C-section and about how we feel to now be a family of four!
Listen to Matt’s song: open.spotify.com/album/1nIJ7t...
Follow The Unplanned Podcast:
/ unplanned__podcast
/ unplanned_podcast
/ @unplannedpodcastclips
Listen on Spotify/ Apple Podcasts:
open.spotify.com/show/1ToDA4u...
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Follow Matt & Abby:
Abby's Instagram | / abbyelizabethoward
Matt's Instagram | / _matt_howard_
TikTok | / matt_and_abby
Facebook | / mattandabb
KRplus | / @mattandabby
Business inquiries: business@mattandabby.co
Chapters:
#unplannedpodcast #mattandabby
I’ll never understand how Matt keeps saying that they “cheated birth” when Abby has to deal with all the pain associated with a c-section and its recovery. I hope Abby is feeling stronger each day. Auggie is such a cute little brother name! Congrats! ❤️
I know I felt gross about it since he didn’t have to go through the pain and won’t know her experience as well as she knows it
I think he meant they cheated “ labor pain” and the waiting game that comes with labor and delivery.
He said "at that time" they felt like they cheated birth. They were going through the timeline - clearly it changed even in the next 24 hours. They'll share the process of the healing when the time comes, relax. They're experiencing and sharing in real time.
she said she felt like she cheated
Well she’s also the same women who said that c section moms aren’t real moms like women who have a natural birth so.
Abby sweetie I’m a midwife with 30 years experience. I just want to say how brave you are to express yourself at such a vulnerable time. You’ve just helped so so many new moms. ❤
❤❤❤❤❤
I agree. Nobody really talks about this part.
@@stephanievandenheever6670 why would you say that? You don't know them at all
@@stephanievandenheever6670 literally back off! Agree or disagree don’t pick on a newly postpartum Mom. That’s low.
@@stephanievandenheever6670those mothers that have “no help at all” and have to “take care of everything on their own” WOULD WISH to have someone to lean on though!? How can you be mad with someone who’s fortunate enough to be in a situation where they receive the appropriate help? What a weird take.
So sad how Matt is talking about how he was mad and frustrated about “feeling like his life and dreams were crushed” when his wife is struggling so bad after having a baby. And no matter if he was talking it not Abby clearly felt it when she was already so down. So sad.
Fathers are allowed to have emotions and share them as well. They need to. Let’s not emotionally neglect our husbands.
Fathers are also going through life changes, sheeshhhh
Matt is so emotionally supportive and we have to make space for men to feel their feelings as well
@@mariahford8724he didn't share them when he gave her the silent treatment, which is a form of abuse and gaslighting.
@scoobydoo5405 sometimes people are silent when they don't have anything better to say. All couples go through it but they get through it with maturity.
To hear matt talk about career goals while his wife is literally hours post birth/surgery is just bizarre. Dude you make millions and you’re hugely famous and incredible influencers....how can you even think about a career when she is literally post birth, everything hurts, c section pain is excruciating, breasts hurt, emotions are high & low......you talk about pouting about the heaviness of thinking about your career..... I lost some respect for him here. Abby literally you ARE AMAZING!!!!! You expressed everything I felt. So impressed with you!!!
Can u please post the timestamp when he said it ?? He is literally a manchild... way too immature for Abby.
48:06 is where he starts talking about his shut down. It's a big oof.
@@kit4910
Thank u.
pretty sure they dont make millions💀
Maybe because the weight of having to provide for a new person hit him?
I don't know why I get the feeling that Abby isn't well cared for emotionally by Matt. She kept saying she felt alone, her needs weren't met & I cannot fathom how a new father can, not speak to his wife for 2 days after her body has been through so much. It just feels so selfish. I'm glad she's going to talk about this more.
I am glad her parents and in laws were there for her because going through c section recovery while your husband ignores you for days sounds like the worst thing ever. Can’t believe he did that to her. Shitty
fr!!! I’ve always thought this. I only watch their content for Abby honestly. Matt gives me bad vibes 😅
@@lauren.sparks Yeah me too, too many red flags.
Traumatic experiences can make people do things they normally wouldn’t do. Therapist say it can be an out of body experience. That was the only way he could cope, so let not judge and be glad he didn’t respond in a worse way.
Have you been through the same experiences? If you’ve never had PPD I don’t think it’s fair to throw your opinion in.
@@autumnarnell1845 I have CPTSD and am a chronic trauma survivor & now a trauma trained somatics facilitator. So please let's not make assumptions and let's not police people's opinions and feelings on a public channel. Abby gave birth and Matt had a traumatic experience? 🤣
“Cheated birth”
I’m so happy my husband never said this to me after my emergency crash c section with our second child.
My baby was out within 2 minutes but the lasting trauma I have from being knocked out and having my husband kicked out of the room will stay with me for a long time.
Also correction for both of you, they don’t take your organs out and set them on a table.
ok
Same. I would have been so mad if someone told me I “cheated birth” after my traumatic emergency c section. I think mamas who have planned c sections are generally happier with them but I would not say I “cheated birth”. I would have way rather been able to deliver vaginally
@@Catturtlelover3000yk abby literally said the same thing in other videos right?
@@gooddoggo523 um okay and? I have no problem with Abby. I never said I had an issue with Abby. I’m referring to her husband who has never carried or given birth. Literally your comment is irrelevant if you’ve never actually experienced a c section for yourself.
I know that Matt probably didn’t mean to come off as a red flag or a bad husband but i just felt sad for Abby because she had a whole ass baby through c section and was going through it and her husband was in his feels over a life he has that he unintentionally or intentionally changed drastically by getting Abby pregnant a second time. It just rubbed me the wrong, it feels like he still has things to mature on bc Abby doesn’t need that bs. Ofc we dk their relationship but it just bothers me to see Abby cry and feel overwhelmed and seeming like she’s crying into a void. Blessings to your child and your fam
This. And when she got pregnant so soon the second time she was crying and stressed and he said it was a wonderful thing and he was happy. Now he’s out here talking about how he feels his life is ruined.
It takes two to tango - and your new baby is going to see this one day. If I knew my parents felt like my birth ruined their lives I would be heartbroken
@@2CanadianEh suddenly feelings are illegal??
@@doggos._.0feelings one one thing. Giving your wife the silent treatment after she has a baby is something totally different
@@2CanadianEh why? seriously why? why is that different
@@doggos._.0because postpartum is the most vulnerable thing a human being can ever experience and to get the silent treatment is absolutely atrocious and is genuinely against my culture.
Imagine having major surgery and then being shunned and disrespected like that. I can’t even believe it. It’s truly heartbreaking 💔
You gave up your body & life for TWO YEARS to bring this man’s children into the world and he didn’t speak to you for 2 days after a MAJOR SURGERY? Abby, that’s absolutely unacceptable! He abandoned you emotionally. I know you say you forgave him, but you ALWAYS remember how people treat you postpartum. I hope you guys can go to couples therapy and work on him becoming more emotionally intelligent. It’s so disrespectful for a “man” to say you “cheated” at birth when they cut your stomach open and took all your organs out. It’s so ridiculous and a way to minimize this huge surgery you went through. I’m so glad your parents moved in to help while you’re postpartum, because it doesn’t seem like he’s able to support you in the way you need.
THIS❤
I understand it all changed for BOTH of you.
But It is so incredibly sad Matt ignored Abby for two days after the birth of their son. Due to feeling his career goals were over due to having to help out more than he did with Griffin because Abby is healing.
Absolutely ridiculous tbh.
Very sad he did this to her. Poor Abby.
But then he goes and releases a song promo as the birth vlog.
This isn’t about Matt. I’m sorry hate me all you want. But this is about Abby. She is having baby blues, she gave birth in a painful way, she’s healing.
And it’s sad all her husband can think of is his career when he has to do more “housework” this time around
if we use your logic, the father does not have any responsibilities when they have a child? absolute bs
@@doggos._.0 If that’s what you got out of this comment then pls don’t ever get married or have children.
@@doggos._.0 Matt is that you? 🤦🏻♀️
He's the one who got her pregnant! If he didn't want to do this, he shouldn't have prioritized his "needs" (you know what I mean) over Abby's health! He has no problem leaving her with all the housework normally, but his world is ending when it's flipped on him. I hope she gets out. She's still so young and deserves to live a full life.
I am always suspicious of men who make their wives have back to back children despite how dangerous it is for their health. I pray that he lets her heal this time before pressuring her to have another.
absolutely agree. i was listening on spotify and as soon as i heard him complaining about having to take care of the baby during their hospital stay- i immediately came to youtube to look at the comments
I think every mom watching this cried with you when you talked about the postpartum emotions. It’s crazy how quickly we forget that part of postpartum once it’s past but how EASY it is to go back to that space when someone else talks about it.
So true
So SO true! I was getting emotional while taking my walk today at 41 weeks pregnant thinking about my first birth/postpartum. Abby articulated it so well, it was the exact emotions I experienced the first time around! Honestly makes me nervous for this postpartum but at least I’m prepared/know what to expect.
Indeed! 😭
This couldn't have been more accurate. I mean 💯
Just cried af 😢 I have 6 month old and i still fel this way sometines because husband works all the time and i am alone for the most part😢
I don’t watch them, but she explained postpartum depression so so accurately and how the mother is overlooked. im glad she is sharing to her large platform how serious it is!
Postpartum depression is a real kicker!! So proud of all the moms out there who experienced this. ❤️
ok
Waag
I’m a mom of two. I’m impressed with your ability to forgive Abby, if my husband had done that (or I to him) during the first few days of our children’s lives we would have big issues and probably need some couples therapy. You are a strong women everything you said about recovery resonates with me. I struggled with baby blues very hard both times.
What did he do though?
@@neeenathHe said he basically gave her the silent treatment for 2 days after she gave birth.
@@clairebear-96and stated he felt his life and none existent music career was over. He also said having a C section is cheating birth.
If I had a husband like that who showed his true colours the day I had a second baby we would 100 percent need marriage counseling
@@2CanadianEh Exactly!!
How is someone so kind and accommodating, with someone so selfish? He did her dirty in the shorts too. Making out like he was doing it all. Where is her mom? Her dad? Does she have siblings?
somehow he's managed to make her birth experience, her pain, her post partum... all about him
Dude men also go through post partum and a lot of emotions after birth. Why does it upset women so much to hear about men's emotions and sadness?
I don't care for him. He acts like a narcissist.
@@xa1239Women are used to being the center of attention and can't stand it when they feel it shift
"Cheated birth"
Yeah, I felt like I was cheated out of birth. Please never say this to anyone who has had a c-section.
As a 31 year old mom of two kids, I have experienced the postpartum and baby blues after birth, it’s so hard. And it BREAKS my heart to hear that this man ignored her RIGHT after she had a baby! I started crying because I remember how I felt, and the needs I needed and all the tears and stress and how I just wanted love and support, it hurts me to know that she was hurting emotionally and helpless….of course I understand this man was stressed too and it’s a life changing situation for him as well but it’s really sad he couldn’t try to put his feelings about his goals and his career to the side for one day, the day your wife had a baby and is going through so many emotions and all she wanted was her husband to comfort her and he was mad over his own selfish needs. Yes it’s absolutely true that no sleep is not good and the fact that y’all have help with family in your home and are taking turns resting is great!
Please… Matt if you start feeling resentful or angry try to think about your wife is going through the biggest transition of her life. Pregnancy, delivery and postpartum is an emotional roller coaster that last for almost two years and she got pregnant almost immediately after giving birth to yalls first and her body never had time to recover, it takes a year to two years for a Womans body to fully recover from pregnancy and birth, so please be more kind and considerate and compassionate to her. Yes she might have mood swings but you know in your heart she’s a good woman a good mom and loves you and those babies and she is going through it. If you start feeling down matt call your father or a brother or a friend don’t keep it bottled up. I will be praying for y’all 🙏
When Abby said that you’re not alone and you’ll get through it… I cried so hard. I needed to hear this when I was going through the early days of postpartum! The feeling of being alone is so overwhelming. So happy she’s using her platform to speak on it. I don’t think she’s realized how many people she’s reached with this video ❤
My baby is four months old and as she said this I was tearing up too. 🥹🥰
ok
Ugh broke my heart when she started feeling pathetic. Felt the exact same after my c section. A new mom not being able to get up and help, in so much pain, so loopy, and struggling with breastfeeding. The helpless feeling is so horrible. You want to be the #1 person for your baby because you feel they are all they know. You protected them for 9months and then they are taken out and you can’t rush over to them feels so vulnerable.
I’m a c section mama too. It’s like the “difficult” part of a c section comes later instead for recover for a major surgery with a newborn! Still wouldn’t change the experience for the world. How lucky are we to be able to have these incredible babies!!
Also Matt and Abby- just to know if you have another c section, my catheter was in for 3 nights following my 6:30pm c section. Just know it’s an option and it was helpful for me especially so I didn’t have to move and squat to go pee!
You thought scissors but to me it felt like they were sawing me open but yeah you can feel pressure but not pain and all I could feel was my body rocking back and forth
Thank you Abby. I did not have the right words after 13 month. Our son has come 2 month earlyer and stay one month in the Hospitation by himself. I did have some complication after the c-sektion and not be able to raise my child. Hold him onely once a day was realy hard with all the emotions you describe. My husband should watch this episode. You are both so stong. Lovely wishes from Germany. You can do that. The womans body are so incredible.
I didn’t have a c-section but my 2nd degree internal tear was so awful.. I was so swollen I couldn’t move out of the bed nor pick up my baby and I felt so helpless
I felt like that with my 1st Son even though it wasn't C-section. I had a really hard time level4 or 5 episiotomy, I tore,head up, large shoulders, used the vacum thing to help get him out. He was almost 10lbs. I couldn't sit on my butt a month later. I remembered I was crying like crazy bc of pain and while stitching me everyone was looking at the baby. Then after I couldn't get around easy and upset I didn't change his 1st diaper or give first bath. It makes you feel like your helpless. Just all around crazy experience but worth it. ♥️
This is so important!
👍
It's good knowledge
👍
👍
Nice 👍👍👍
I’ve been on the receiving end of the silent treatment and it’s literally hell. Luckily for me, I wasn’t married to and had no children with my ex so I ended up leaving him. But during the pandemic we lived together and there was a period where he ignored me for 3 days straight all because I tried to express an issue I had with him. I never felt safe emotionally with him. During that time I had really dark thoughts about my self worth. I can’t imagine being pregnant and giving birth AND receiving this type of treatment. I hope Abby is okay ❤
0:00: 🎉 The couple prepares for the scheduled C-section and shares a special song for their son.
6:03: 👶 The speaker describes their experience leading up to their scheduled C-section and the emotions they felt.
12:38: 👩⚕ The speaker describes their experience during a medical procedure, feeling numb but aware of the movements and sensations.
18:46: 👶 The speaker describes the birth of their child and their experience in the operating room.
24:00: 👶 The speaker describes their experience during a C-section, including their thoughts on the placenta and the shoulder pain they experienced.
29:47: 😊 The couple shares their experience of childbirth and acknowledges that their story may differ from others.
35:37: 😔 The speaker shares their raw experience of giving birth and the emotional challenges they faced, particularly with breastfeeding and feeling overwhelmed.
42:38: 😔 The speaker reflects on the challenging experience of being in the hospital after giving birth and expresses feelings of exhaustion, frustration, and emotional instability.
48:56: 😔 The couple discusses the challenges and frustrations they faced during the first few days of their newborn's life, emphasizing the importance of communication, teamwork, and prioritizing family over career goals.
55:08: 😭 The speaker expresses her love for her children and excitement for their future bond.
Recap by Tammy AI
This episode transcends your other content. The incredibly authentic way Abby communicates her postpartum experience resonates deeply. Abby, there is a gigantic community of women nodding along listening to this episode. We are healing along with you.
Yes!!! Listening with tears in my eyes because it’s just so true 🥺
@@ktwhy7045wow I didn't get that impression at all. Father's experience a big change/shift in their lives too...and it's also affecting their wife which affects them etc. Of course it's not the same as it is for the mother, but it's still a real experience for them.
@@ktwhy7045have to disagree.
Maybe Matt should make an episode of his own about this. I think many support people (Dad or otherwise) would benefit from this perspective.
Postpartum emotions are HARD. I cried about everything. I cried because I loved my husband. I cried because my mom was helping me. The emotions you feel are just heightened x1,000 so every mole hill is a mountain. I had my first 9 months ago and I still remember the emotions. Watching this brings it back like it was yesterday. Praying for you, Abby and Matt!
I had my child almost 4 years ago and I remember the wave of emotions like it was yesterday. It is so so hard. I cried so much, it’s all overwhelming. Being a mom is something fierce, I’m crying right now. My heart goes out to Abby and all new moms. ❤
Crying all sorts of tears!! Joy, sadness, hope, frustration, love & so much more.
🙏🏻✝️God Bless 🙏🏻✝️💕💕👼🏻😇💛🫶🕊️💚🇻🇦💕🙏🏻
Sorry to be *that person but please stop saying it feels like you cheated because you had a C-section. It is not. Each birthing way is difficult in its own way. I had postpartum also with my first one and it was awful. I felt so sad all the time and felt so guilty about it. It was a complete upheaval of our life and I felt that!!
Abby I just wanna give you a hug. Matt I can’t believe you got angry and gave your wife who has never been so vulnerable in her life the silent treatment for days. Wow. How sad for your kids you initial thoughts in the days after their birth was my life is over.
what part does he say this at? genuinely asking i keep seeing comments!!
48 mins
Why? He's human and allowed to feel his feelings too.
@@stephthinks3109that’s 100% respectable but mans IGNORED his POSTPARTUM wife for 2 days ..
@@stephthinks3109yes, but he's not entitled to immaturely try to punish his wife because of his feelings making her feel Isolated and alone in her most vulnerable hour.
Sitting here crying with Abby as she’s crying. I’ve never been pregnant, never had a baby, so I don’t quite understand but my mom passed away almost two years ago now (we were incredibly close) and this shines a new light on the emotional ups and downs that she went through having seven kids. She was a warrior, just like Abby and every other mama out there who goes through this.
Sorry for your lose, sweetie. 💗✨
Don’t put up with this behavior Abby. Your husband should support you not give you the silent treatment because what? You had a life changing surgery and gave birth? I hope you can get the help you need Abby. Postpartum depression is NO JOKE. There are tons or resources and support out there. You are not alone. Don’t put up with him call him out.
That's the biggest red flag
But he didn’t give her the silent treatment? If you listen clearly, you can hear them both say that he was a bit quieter than normal the first two days. Not that he went completely silent. And that isn’t even me backing him up. It was what was actually said
You do realise that dads go through ppd as well right?
#saveabby
Matt needs to grow up. Like sorry you have to help out more around the house versus your singing career. Sorry Matt but that is ridiculous. Abby deserves better.
Agreed
Matt feeling angry and upset after the birth is valid. But ignoring Abby, who felt just as awful (even more so as she had just had a c-section and was in a lot of pain!) is actually horrific. Yes your life will be put on hold for a short time, so will hers! But ignoring her after surgery, when shes struggling to breastfeed and in a lot of physical pain is unbelievably selfish. Also Abby admitting their relationship had it struggles, and matt trying to put it back on her implying she was grumpy because of sleep deprivation. Just her issue then matt yeah? Or maybe cause you ignored her for two days after she went through life changing surgery
So glad someone picked up on this!😵💫 This honestly made me feel super grateful for my husband because he would neverrr pull that crap of not speaking to me! He’s always looking out for me and putting me first.. Love that man
@@donnal5858 Good to hear! My husband is the same. For the first time I'm seeing Matt as a bit manipulative.
I’m surprised it took me so long to scroll down and find a comment calling this out. I feel the exact same way!
@@glencoco3142covert narc vibes
@@donnal5858that’s how husbands should be. Loving and sacrificial.
I just gave birth last Wednesday on the 16th and I cannot tell you how much I needed to hear this. I’m struggling at the moment with my hormones and baby blues. Thank you for being so honest because no one talks about the emotional shift as much as they should.
Sweet girl, I remember that period just like it was yesterday. I know you already heard it from Abby, but just wanted you to know you’re not alone. Those first few weeks are the most emotionally draining days. I wanted so badly with both of mine that I just wanted to put them back in my belly. Like, you still want them, but you just don’t feel prepared enough to handle all the change. Also it’s like your mourning your old life…but soon the baby will be tucked right into the norm, and you will start feeling better❤
Thank you so much this perfectly describes everything I’m feeling right now. I felt awful thinking how I wish she was back in my belly and thinking of all the things I can’t do easily anymore. I’m so happy to hear that it passes ❤️ I love my baby girl endlessly but the transition is the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do!
Sending so much love to you!! You got this ❤💙💜
remember baby will be okay if you need to take a minute to walk away. put baby into a safe place. and remember to get some fresh air and breathe. much love. my baby is 1 now. ur gonna be great momma
I just had a hysterectomy and I had the worst pain in my right shoulder from gas .
I think social media can really shield the reality of pregnancy, the birth experience, hospital stays and the raising of children because people don’t tell everything about the worst parts. Those parts are all equally as important. Everything about it all is hard. I’m proud of you.
28:01 Fun fact: Trapped gas doesn't travel up, it is in the abdomen, but it is pressing the vagus nerve which reflects as shoulder pain 😊
Whoa, good to know!
Why does the pain feel like it is slowly moving across the shoulder?
I think the “put the baby back in the belly” feelings stems from just wanting to protect them. During pregnancy, you’re the only one who really knows them and can keep them safe, and now they’re just out here in this big world. You’re amazing, Abby 💗 Postpartum should be a time of simplicity and recovery, when you’re able to sit back, get to know your baby, and be taken care of by your support system. This is the most important and vulnerable time in life 🥰
This is BY FAR my favorite episode. Abby, as a fellow mama I can’t tell you how comforted and seen I felt from you sharing your own story. Postpartum is a true emotional rollercoaster - ESPECIALLY when there are problems with breastfeeding. It really can feel like you’re invisible and like your needs no longer matter sometimes. I truly respect you so much for being real about that and just as you told everyone else - those beautiful boys are so blessed to have YOU as their mom. You guys are incredible and you have definitely been my comfort in pregnancy, postpartum, and motherhood. You are making such a difference ❤️
Abby said she won't read comments but if you Matt do read them - tell her I'm sooo thankful for you guys being sooo honest!!! The world needs the TRUTH and this story is full of truth especially the part about your marriage status right now. You'll get through that 💕🤚 thank you!!!
Yes preach it!!
If my partner wasn't there for me emotionally right after having a baby, I would literally never forgive him.
You're NOT pathetic, you DESERVE to heal. YOU will eventually love your LIFE AGAIN. This is TEMPORARY. ❤ YOU GOT THIS ABBY AND MATT.
The hospital needs to make these sweet little signs to go above the moms bed, that say the baby is doing well… but MOM could really use your love and attention, a good hug, hold her hand, ask her how she feels, and let her cry out her feelings! Mom needs all your love right now… AND YOU CAN GIVE HER, A NICE BIG HUG AND A SQUEEZE!! New moms need love, too!!!
40 years ago I had an emergency C section. Afterward I was treated like a regular mom. I don't think family understood that I had had surgery. It took me a good year to feel normal. Thank you for sharing your story....both of you. You have no idea of how many people you are going to help. Blessings to all of you.
Yes! No one realizes how huge and invasive a c section is. And the healing after is much longer and greater than a natural vaginal birth. I have had 2. I also ended up alone after both raising them alone completely. No family offered help even once. I also had a serious spinal injury w/ my first. And it’s been 18 years and is still a problem for me and painful at times. I even had swelling on my brain for 3 weeks plus after but was still sent home alone w: baby. I had to crawl from bed to bathroom or to make bottles. As breastfeeding was not possible w/ my injuries. People don’t understand it at all. Hardest thing I’ve ever done. And I was 20. I was a kid myself in some ways.
I was supposed to (and wanted to) have an emergency c section but it was deemed "too late" I ended up having an extremely traumatic forcep birth that was the most experience I had ever felt since I had absolutely no pain medication so I felt everything and it was a horror show. It took me many long months to finally feel better but I was in pain for a very long time😢
@@robyn220im so sorry you had to go through that alone. If i had been your friend in would have been there for you, you deserved sm better 🥺💜💜
Silent follower here! I’m one year postpartum as of Friday, and hearing Abby talk about how hard it is emotionally after giving birth still hit me like a brick wall. I don’t think I fully processed it myself at the time, but it was HARD. Thanks for sharing your experience, it helped me realize that even in the happiest times it’s okay to not feel okay. It’s a lot on a woman’s body. I’m so happy for you guys, enjoy those newborn snuggles ❤️
Abby, you just described in the most accurate way what many new moms feel, what I felt when I had my baby. We are prepared for pregnancy and how to care about the baby but we are not prepared for motherhood. It is so great that someone finally said what those first few days, weeks, months feel like, and that It is not always perfect. I wish there was a podcast like this one when I felt alone and miserable. You just helped a lot of women out there!!!
This episode was maybe the best content on this channel I’ve ever seen. Even though Abby might not read the comments for her own mental health boundaries, I hope they both know the incredible gift they have given so many. Thank you for sharing with us and being vulnerable.
xxx
I’m a postpartum doula, this episode is SO beautiful. Abby you articulated the postpartum experience so well. I applaud you guys for sharing this.
Those postpartum emotions are SO STRONG. I truly think it is something you cannot even begin to understand until you have lived through it. Abby hearing you talk about your feelings postpartum brought it all back for me. I cried everyday for two weeks straight when my first was born after an unexpected c-section. I know exactly what you mean about feeling pathetic with needing so much physical and emotional help and like the world is ending while at the same time wanting so badly to be happy and in love. Thank you so much for being open.
My sons are 28 and 26…and you brought me back to the emotion of it all in your words. After C-section 2, I came home to a home packed up to move 12 days later….my in laws came over, took one look at me, tears running down my face, they packed me a bag and took me home with them. For 12 days they took care of all of us….
You’re explanation to the feelings that are there is spot on! Thank you! ❤️❤️❤️. Congratulations
“You want to be everything, but you just can’t.” I was holding my 7 month old while watching this and cried so much!😂 it reminded me of how I felt in the newborn stage and I felt so seen and normal. Thank you Abby for being vulnerable and helping us mamas postpartum 💛
All of the silent followers coming out of the woodwork to tell you how much we love you and support you! Thank you for sharing your heart with us, Abby. You are helping so many women with your vulnerability and willingness to be open and real.
This is so important! I wish all expecting/new moms listened to this, so they wouldn't feel like something is wrong with them when they have these feelings. Abby does an incredible job of explaining this. Sending all of you so much love, I'm glad Abby has such a great support system. ❤️
Matt is such a selfish human. Why such a smart girl had kids with someone like that. Omg. “My life is over” “I do everything for augie” yet she just has a surgery. And she sits there and rubs his pathetic ego. Just yuck.
Disgusting. Hope she wakes up and leaves or he eventually comes out
If my husband ever spoke to me this was ESPECIALLY in such a vulnerable time I would be wondering if I married the wrong person. Matt is repulsive.
Wow. Are we watching the same thing?
@@nicolec1405not with the same perspective apparently
@@2CanadianEh I think he's a 25 year old guy who is either very brave or very stupid to voice his inner thoughts and struggles on a platform where everyone gets to judge what we only see and hear a very small portion of.
I don't see a selfish guy. I see a really young guy trying his best to support his wife and family that's being honest with his feelings. I don't understand why everyone's hating on him. Plenty of worse guys out there than this one!!!
Around 49 minutes….. bro really said he was angry and gave his freshly post partum wife the silent treatment for 2 DAYS………
yeah major yikes … and hardly any comments talk abt it
The might have deleted the comments about it
Yoooo wtf not him saying he had to put all his goals aside. That’s crazy like what about the Abby she just birthed a whole ass baby. Bruhhh
@@sukhmangill She’s birthed 2 babies within barely a year AND had hernia surgery, and he’s worried about himself 💀
@@clairebear-96 no girl for real. He seems lowkey narcissistic. And I just saw the short where he’s like u cheated birth. Like bruh she had a whole ass c-section. That probably hurt her more than actually birth. Idk he’s kinda weird. And also the short where they were going to the hospital he’s like promoting his music 👀 like bruhhhh
To be so vulnerable with something so fragile is so commending… I’m 37 and not a mom and I’m sitting here balling my eyes out. The realness and rawness of everything you’ve both shared is definitely going to help moms, dads, just families in general out there with their own experiences. We are all more alike than we probably think sometimes… I’m really impressed!! Definitely my favorite episode!! I love you guys!! ♥️
After having my second baby the first month was so extremely hard emotionally. I would sit and just sob and shake because I also felt like my life was over, like it wasn’t a good time to welcome another baby. Now seven months later I’m so happy to watch my kids growing up together, watching them bond and how they just adore one another. Postpartum is so hard, especially when the majority of people are focused on baby and not on mom. Really appreciate you guys talking about it because it’s definitely not easy ❤❤
I could’ve written this myself !
❤
41:23 this right here is what a lot of women go through. Abby when you said “it feels like the world is ending and it feels like the life as I knew it is completely ending” is exactly how I felt when I had my daughter. Thank you for expressing this for us postpartum mamas.
I’m 6 days Postpartum and I’ve had to accept that you can’t be everything for everyone and nothing for yourself. You’re doing great and every mom understands ❤
You are doing amazing as well Momma!
I know Abby may not read this but Matt if you do, please tell her how much loved she is... How much proud we are of her..and how beautiful she is..❤️❤️ while being pregnant or postpartum she looks absolutely gorgeous... And is so brave and courageous to share it all here and we are so thankful for that and ps Matt you're such a good support ❤️ Love you all❤️
Abby you couldn’t have said anything better. I had both of my babies through c-section and it was so hard. My emotional needs were being pushed to the side because I never said anything to my family or husband. The pain you go through, the long nights, the hormonal shift, literally everything. I can honestly say after each pregnancy it’s my mental and emotional state that makes me so worried. It’s hard coming out of a hole when you feel so worthless. You’re amazing and you got this. Thank you so so so much I swear I thought I was the only mom that felt like this after my c-sections and this just made me feel so heard 🤍
Abby, I’m 7 weeks postpartum with my first baby (also chose a c-section because of macrosomia). Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing your experience and emotions. This is the hardest thing I’ve gone through emotionally, you are helping so many of us feel less alone.
Hi mama ! Congratulations
Matt said that having a C section is cheating birth in this video. I don’t know if it upset you but it is NOT cheating birth. You did something SOO scary for your baby and that is AMAZING
Good job mom !
Why are so many people hating on Matt?? He’s an honest guy and just sharing how he feels, just because he didn’t have a c section doesn’t mean he doesn’t go through changes as well. I’m sure it wouldn’t be nice for Abby and Matt to read these comments and for her to see people hating on her husband
BTW Maty being so honest about his actual feelings of anger and frustration after the birth, feeling like his life and career are over - WOW. some of the realest talk I've ever heard on line or in real life period. Amazing. So honest and important to say these things that are hard to admit but are so human and real.
100 percent. Knowing these feelings happen and he probably made a lot of dads feel less alone with that
Absolutely. I feel like many people feel the shame of vomiting these “harsh “ words out .. but they are Valid Feelings and we all know how much he loves his family so it’s like a temporary thing and everything will very soon be okey and calm again. I appreciate his honesty a LOT .
It was kinda a lot for me. Like he doesn’t have to pretend to be obsessed with KRplus 100%. I know he likes the views 😂 And I think you could say having a baby will help his career. But like c’mon your career is not over recognize your privilege. Maybe for us people with normal careers but babys don’t hurt KRplus careers 😂
@@samhaiyt it’s true but I think lack of sleep and the hospital puts one into this weird funk and things can look really negative even if it’s going well. They also didn’t plan this pregnancy or baby so they were winging it but I do agree the baby and pregnancy stuff helped them 🤣
Bro who writes these things
I’m a C-section mama and this episode made me cry. Thank you for sharing your vulnerable feelings. I felt them so vividly. You’re not alone.
I experienced postpartum depression and anxiety with my second baby; I felt extremely lost. I literally felt like my life was over. I was embarrassed for feeling that way. I didn’t want to be honest with the doctor because I was scared they’d take my baby away. My husband was an amazing support, and I was finally able to get help. Thank you for this video! I don’t normally ever comment, and specially don’t talk about this subject because it is so personal, but thank YOUUU for this!
Omg I am scared to because I haven’t got help yet for my postpartum depression I am so scared that they can take my baby boy alway from me to I so happy that I am not alone in this postpartum depression 🥹🥹@pabper82
Yes! I had all of these feelings also. You’re not alone!
This episode was so validating for me as a new mom. I had an emergency c section this summer and I felt every single thing you’re describing with no one there to tell me that it was all normal and all ok. I thought I was crazy! We aren’t crazy, it’s such an emotional roller coaster of hormones and life changes and pain. Congratulations
Tears are a sacred thing. Thank you for trusting part of your story with those who needed to hear it. The compassion and empathy for others that you guys have is a breath of fresh air. :)
Congratulations guys. I had an emergency c-section section with my first on August 9th and am currently struggling with the loneliness and the emotional Rollercoaster of it all. The recovery has been extremely hard for me as I feel useless and cannot help do basic tasks around the house. Hearing this podcast and knowing I'm not alone helps so much. The extended support system is greatly appreciated ❤
You are awesome and congratulations on your new baby.
You got this mama ❤❤
Congratulations mama❤ It will get easier I promise
Emergency csections are so rough!
I had an "urgent" c-section last October. Baby blues are so real. The loneliness is so real (even with a supportive spouse/partner). Feeling so helpless is so real. Your feelings are valid! But I'm also here to tell you, it gets better. I had baby blues for sure, but once we hit the 3 week mark, I felt like every day got better. By 3 months, I felt like my life had changed so much and we got into a routine (as much of a routine as you can have with a newborn). Hang in there!
Abby’s a trooper! Thank you guys for being so open with us! I feel like many people only talk about how the baby is how they baby is doing great and not how the mom is feeling or struggling postpartum…
“I don’t get emotional like you, but I think that was my baby blues in a way” really caught my attention.
Abby, if you’re reading this, please listen. I’m a new mom and have gone through unimaginable dread during my postpartum, almost all of it due to loneliness. Matt possesses traits of narcissistic personality disorder. It doesn’t mean he absolutely has it, technically everyone possesses at least one trait, but he needs to be willing to look into this and speak to a therapist. I say this because I come from an emotionally abusive home- my dad has NPD- and my boyfriend and I recently agreed to get into therapy together because he possesses a lot of the same traits that my father does. He began speaking down to me often with backhanded comments like Matt’s, and it felt subtle but intentional, like Matt’s. Conversations that were supposed to be about my feelings suddenly became about his, all of the time. He started to keep track of the kind things he was doing for me, and in my early recovery he definitely treated me like having to show up for me emotionally was very inconvenient for him because “he was stressed too”. I had to sit down and really try to understand if he was as unaware of himself as he seemed to be, and to my surprise he was. He loves me, but most likely has the same thing my dad has. The difference is he’s more than willing to work on this, and actually felt devastated that he hadn’t seen how much of his relationship with his own dad was impacting ours. As embarrassing as it is to admit, it may have been the first time he seemed truly remorseful for hurting me or hit with something that really made him take a look in the mirror. That still doesn’t take away the fact that we have a lot to unpack with a professional. Change is always possible, no matter the diagnosis, I firmly believe that, but you have to be willing. My dad isn’t and so my experience with him is much different than with my boyfriend, and has often times left me feeling empty enough to not want to be here anymore. I don’t feel alone in my relationship anymore, though, and now that my boyfriend is conscience of what might be going on he’s been so intentional with how he interacts with me and I see it.
Please know that I think you’re doing a kick^ss job as a mama and that you don’t have to feel alone. And it’s okay to trust yourself enough to speak up when something is clearly wrong with how you’re being treated.
I am an old mum and everything Abby said is exactly what I felt with my first. He was a C-section and I just felt cheated, I felt judged as a mum, I couldn't breast feed, it was crap. So I know Abby said she wouldn't read comments, but Matt if you are reading them, tell her the overwhelming amount of comments are from mums who know exactly what she is going through. And she isn't alone. And it doesn't last. And you have to speak up and if you need to cry, cry. And just know we are all sending prays and kindness. And you be kind to yourselves and each other. x
As a woman I really appreciate Abby showing her vulnerability. We’re often told not to cry and that it’s weak but it really is the opposite. Especially on this platform!
My mother had three C-sections for all of her kids and she said the last C-section she had was the worst of all. They didn’t numb her enough and she felt literally everything and none of the doctors were listening to her when she had told them that she felt everything and it hurt her, so I’m glad that you guys got a good experience with that.
Abby, this is exactly what I needed to hear. My family isn’t emotional supportive so thank you from the bottom of my heart for your virtual support. My daughter is six years old now but hearing you talk about your birth experience made me feel all those feelings all over again. You definitely healed some old wounds ❤.
So happy to hear this helped!!
Same. I never had the emotional support I needed. Like at all.
As someone that just had their second baby via a scheduled c-section a few weeks ago with a toddler at home, thank you. Thank you for being so real and raw. Hearing you share your experience felt so validating because I can relate so much to the emotional side of what you experienced as well. Your vulnerability is going to help so many women.
49:53 really made me sad 😢 I'm honestly praying for the best for Abbie. Mats awesome but he needs to grow up big time. ❤
Agreed very immature
You have no idea how many people you’re going to help and support by sharing this story ❤️
Abby and Matt. Thank you for being vulnerable, you have no idea how much this episode helped me. Like… right now I don’t have words other than thank you.
I hope Abby can read this someday. I just had a C-section last October and am due again in February for a repeat. Everyone abandoned me because of that mood shift I truly thought was something wrong with me… my partner fell asleep and couldn’t wake up to our daughters cries and I was so grouchy and couldn’t help it… I felt so alone and my own mother told me how horrible I am when I have C-sections and she’ll never be apart of another…. Because of your video…/ I have such a greater perspective. Oh and that shoulder pain. OMG it felt like it was being dislocated for me… I was also shaking uncontrollably from the adrenaline and couldn’t sleep… thank you is all I can say…/ you’ve encouraged me to make some videos myself and also how I’ve been treated recently as a repeat c section mom. I love you guys. Stay strong!!! Your boys have two very dedicated loving parents and are extremely lucky. The insight y’all have shared.
Don’t be too hard on yourself. I went through that too with my husband being so tired he didn’t wake up to babies cries when I needed him too. There were some yelling for sure with all the sleep deprivation lol. I think mothers are just so triggered by that to do something immediately
Dear Abby, I am tearing up at your description of baby blues post c section I felt every single ounce of your words 155% and my heart justvthanks you for sharing your story being so vulnerable and honest. We need more mamas like you brave enough to stand up and give the honest raw details and emotions of child birth. You are not alone you are an amazing mama and wife I can just tell and feel it. Prayers for a speedy recovery and big virtual hugs to you both. Congratulations.
I feel like Matt used the fact that "they cheated delivery" (which is 1000% not true) as an exuse to be upset with her, and give her the cold shoulder for 2 days over his career. I think he needs to realize, that just because she didn't push and go through active labour, doesn't mean she didnt need the same care and attention and help that she would get from pushing. Everything after delivery is the same after the fact. All the hormones, pain (even though the pain is diffrent from C-section to natural) and mental health struggles still need to be addressed.
I love watching these guys, and I know every relationship has bumps, but that's too far yk
Abby, youre so strong for sharing this vulnerable side of your life so close after giving birth. I felt so alone after giving birth and was not even able to realize I felt like that and those feelings were reasonable.
Thanks for sharing your feelings and thoughts so it helps other moms of newborns ❤
This is an amazing episode. The helplessness after a c-section is something that needs to be seen. It's so hard to admit when you need help, when this new being needs so much help as well. It's such a lonely process. Congrats on August. Matt- your song is beautiful.
The c section was a CHOICE!!!!!!
@@raynaroy157 and? I had a c-section. Does that make my pregnancy or baby less than? Abby did what she needed.
@@raynaroy157shoulder dystocia is the scariest thing that can happen. Did you read the story of the mom in Georgia? There was no reason to risk it again. The doc said the shoulders were big and baby was undescended. The chances of an emergency c-section was high. A c-section is birth. Safety of mom and baby is more important.
@@raynaroy157what is wrong with u
Abby, you are the saving grace of family vloggers. You are so real, and inspiring in a world of other influncers just putting their babies on the internet for clout and money. Please keep pushing for your chanel to be more than showing strangers your boys. Keep going super woman, your boys are so lucky to have you.
Abby- thank you so much for being SO vulnerable. It is so hard to be so completely honest and real with how emotional and hard postpartum can be. You are a rockstar mama! Sending love ❤
Abby you will never know how special this podcast is! Your experience was my experience and it does make me feel less alone to hear you share your story!
I remember all these feelings vividly... You described it so well, Abby. "It feels like the world is ending." I remember asking my mom every day- "This won't last forever, right?" The hormonal shift is intense.
I always say I felt like I was drowning.
Please reassure me this won't last forever 😢I'm 5 weeks postpartum, and I've become a totally different person, I hate the new me...
@@kiki-90 I promise you it won't last forever. It may feel like it will in this moment, but this is a temporary experience that you will get through. Don't be afraid to ask for help! I saw a therapist after having my fourth child and I wish I did it for the previous three because it helped me process all the complex emotions so well.
@mandorazo Thank you love 🙏 I'm glad you asked for help, I'm considering doing the same if my mood swings and complex emotions continue overwhelming me.
I've had 2 c-sections.....my kids are 18 and 12 now and you have no idea how I wished I could have heard this podcast then!!! Those feelings are real!!! You my dear are going to help soooooo many people....a big thank you to you
I have had 4 babies via c section and Abby you did such a fabulous job articulating how crazy c sections can be and the calm before the storm vibe that one gets, I suffered major depression after my first - I was so down on myself for not being able to have a natural delivery and I still remember those first days well. Thank you so much for sharing your story, this one took me back - my oldest is 15 on Friday and my youngest is 9. If it makes you feel better each c section I had - the physical and emotional recovery time took less and less, for me to heal. God bless you and your family :)
I had ALOT of depression with my 2nd baby too. It's been 19 yrs now and looking back I think I was emotionally stressed, overwhelmed, exhausted , etc. IT WILL GET BETTER!!! Good luck Abby. We're praying for you, for all of yall!
Thank you for being so raw and real in this video!! I am a young postpartum nurse who doesn’t have children myself yet. This video really made me think about how to best support the mommas I care for physically AND emotionally! You are truly an inspiration to so many 💗
Had my first c section 18 months ago… and wow this brought me RIGHT back. Sitting here in tears just listening bcuz I TOTALLY know where Abby is coming from.
Same here!
My first born is about to be 18 months in a couple days and this brought me right back too. I teared up as well a few times. I second your comment as I’m have flashbacks about where Abby is coming from. I had a emergency csection with my first. I’m also currently 13 weeks pregnant with baby #2 (both girls). I may have a VBAC this time around. But still. Eventually I’m gonna go through postpartum again (with a 2 year old by then and a newborn). I’m lowkey nervous to go through it all again, but I also know I have my support system. And it feels reassuring I’m not alone. Thank you Abby and all the fellow mamas here with being so vulnerable in your experiences. We are much more stronger than we think we feel. ❤️
@@ellenangeline yes! This is so spot on. I am so torn what I will do with my second.. c section scared the hell out of me.. but so did the 40 hours of labor leading up to my c section. You are strong. You are capable & whatever you decide to do, you will rock it!!!!
@@Jthenski711 Omg you are so strong too, mama!! I’m so sorry you went through 40 hrs of labor! The csection scared the hell of me as well. I had a scheduled C-section but my daughter decided to arrive a few weeks earlier. I’m sure whichever you choose you’ll get through it too. Likewise to you! 😊 Apologies for the late response! I barely saw my notification today. ❤️
Oh I just want to give you a hug! I relived my journey with you. I’m a mom of 2 - both c-sections. No matter my reasons, it’s a tough one either way you deliver. I’m not here to start a conversation who suffers more. I’m here to say that when you kept on repeating “how fast it was” I finally realized why it was so hard for me to recover: personally I feel that most c section mommas are ripped off the moment of a realization of birth! ❤️ sending you love and fast recovery! ❤️❤️❤️ you’re amazing! Thank you for talking and sharing your journey! An absolutely beautiful one for sure
I gave birth to my first son 18th August via emergency c-section. I can not tell you how much this pod cast has helped me. I get how you feel my emotions are still everywhere. I just want to thank you for sharing just a personal experience with us. It’s so brave to be so venerable. I can’t thank you enough it’s nice to know that other people feel the same way.
I´m only watching 10 minutes and have tears rolling down my face. Just all the memories of my 3 c-sections are coming back (4 kids, first were twins). It´s so good that you talk about all this. I feel like when you have a baby, the second you have it in your arms, you don´t think about the c-section (or delivery) anymore and all attention goes to the baby. But it´s really necessary to talk about the process of having the baby and really go through all the feelings you had. I´m just realizing that I still have issues about some things that happened during my last c-section. Thank you for sharing and enjoy your precious family! ❤
Thank you so much for this episode. I'm 30 weeks pregnant and might end up getting a c cection so this was a huge privilege to get so close to your experience. I'm very emotional and appreciate Abby being so open. I'm scared and worried about the emotional roller coaster. So thanks for helping me feel less alone.
Just take it day by day. I had an unplanned c section 6 months ago and it was a great experience, but then the next 2 weeks was such a whirlwind of exhaustion, hormones, recovery, etc. Lean on your family and friends and take any help you can get - don't be a martyr! Once the baby blues are over, and assuming there's no postpartum depression, each week gets easier, and the nights become less daunting. You are going to do so great!
Congratulations!!
Congrats mama! I had an elective c-section and wouldn't change a thing - you've got this, ypu are powerful beyind measure ❤
Peppermint cordial for the shoulder pain ❤xx
Why would Matt not talk to Abby? Very strange to me.
People process their feelings differently. They seem to be opposites when it comes to this .
Can someone please give me a timestamp? I don’t wanna listen to this whole thing 😅
@@pickledOnionGal47 mins?
I’m EIGHT MONTHS postpartum and I teared up when she said “I’m with you” because I just wish someone would’ve said that when I was going through that. There is NOT enough awareness about the havoc hormones take on your emotional stability those first couple weeks.
It’s such an emotional rollercoaster, whether that be high emotions or low emotions. Thanks for being so open and honest.
Oh my goodness I want to hug you both. I've had 4 babies and brewing our 5th and last baby now.. I just want to say THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OPENING UP ABOUT THESE INDESCRIBABLE EMOTIONS! So so so so so much we see couples sharing their birth stories but NOT ONE person expresses the real and raw emotions like you two have in this podcast. That is the truth all the emotions flood from the time your baby leaves your body and you are left feeling empty and alone when you somehow know youre not alone. I feel you and I've been there and will be there again.. it does get better everyday and months from now it will be just a blink in your life. Sending much love to you two and to the babies ❤
8 months pregnant today with my rainbow 🌈 baby. Watching and listening to Abby be so vulnerable made me cry, but also brought me so much peace. You’re doing amazing things mama. You are so strong and you’re a warrior. Thank you for sharing your experience with all of us. 🩶 God bless you and your little family 🩵
I am a 61 year old mom of 3 and grandmother of 3. Everything you are feeling is normal. I want to thank you for your honesty. It will help others. 🥰
Antibiotic eye drops or ointment are placed in a newborn's eyes after birth. This is to protect babies from getting bacterial eye infections that can occur during birth. Untreated, these infections can cause serious problems including blindness. The antibiotic erythromycin is used most often.
This is so brave of you to share and I appreciate you doing this! I’m 26 and my mom tells me when she first gave birth to me she felt the same things, but nobody talked about it back then, so she felt so alone! She says everyone kept telling her how much she was going to love this baby before she gave birth and she didn’t feel that love right away, so she kept thinking there was something wrong with her and she was so sad! It’s so brave of you to share this and I know so many people need to hear this and needed to hear this a long time ago. We’re all rooting for you!
I really hope Matt has read all these comments and can reflect back on how messed up his behavior was. No married person should ever punish their spouse with the silent treatment and there is no more immature way to handle things. I hope he has taken to heart that he acted out of pocket and immaturely and has apologized and made efforts to make it up to abby.
When my daughter was in the NICU and we were arguing because I was trying to articulate that without being able to hold my child my brain was doing weird things like making me feel like she was dead and i felt such pressure to pump. He put his fist through the wall and screamed DO YOU THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE HURTING!? at me when i was explaining calmly what was happening biologically to me. It took his mother pulling him down to the basement, explaining he was 100000% wrong for that reaction abd no one said he wasn't hurting and its not a pain competition. He had nothing to stand on to justify his behavior when i was just explaining the biological issues i was facing and hes NOT going through that, so i have the same pain as him, plus nature playing tricks on me.
Sometimes, a third party is needed to bring someone overreacting or acting immaturely back to reality. After that conversation with his Mom and reading the information she gave him on the science of postpartum in a woman he did apologize AND made efforts to make it up to me.
In the moment I was done with him and his tude though. I felt completely ignored when i was trying to communicate my feelings because he was seeing it as "you're sad, im sad, we're all sad stop whining."
I will say that incident and meditation was the best thing for our relationship. We can now communicate how we feel with the understanding we need to articulate our feelings without blaming, but apologize if our actions inadvertently hurt each other. What we meant is irrelevant, if we caused hurt apologies are in order. We care more about how we make each other feel now.
I love how vulnerable they both are and they’re so honest with each other. They’re so young and learning how to adapt to life and the many changes that come with each child and getting to know each other all over again with each new birth. Y’all are killing it! Just keep being open and honest with each other!! Love you guys!