2021 Acura TLX Type S Review // Priced To Fight

Exactly… they can’t say anything bad or they won’t get access

I also think savagegeese gives very honest/high quality reviews

@@homerles savaggese is trash tf? His voice is fucking annoying as well

@@drestep4830 dougdeweirdo is your fav reviewer huh

@@drestep4830 nah u weird if u think his reviews aren't at least honest, voice is subjective

Definitely. I was looking at a 2019 Spec A, after being in the new interior I dont think I can get an old one

And it looks better than Audi or BMW IMO.

Just got the 23 S-type last week. While it's not cheap, comp models for BMW and Audi are quite a bit more.

Needs manual though

@@kenster007agreed. The BMWs are insanely expensive. For me to replace my x3 m40 is close to 80K. Ridiculous.

Yup definitely a head turner

Lmaooo yea that car looks good in the back of the field

@@favianmadrid6345 guarantee it won't be in the back but ok

Yeah broke my neck super hard the other day

@@favianmadrid6345 The back of what field? Your bench race?

Also own a 4th gen tl and was thinking the same thing. The idea is for the car to not slide right??? The SHAWD redirects torque so you can tuck it in nice and smooth then power out as it adapts the torque for the appropriate wheels. He was getting so mad that the car wasnt spinning out which to me seems like a good thing.... Ive thrown my car around turns pretty hard and it just refuses to slide even a little. Allows me to power out of the turn no issue. Not sure what his frustration was about

The idea here is he wants to get this thing to misbehave. Easy to drive plus underpowered can tend to be boring for these guys. They drive performance cars on the limit all the time. Also, a car tends to become less sporty if there is no challenge in driving it fast. At least to some.

@@LockdownuG great points you made...question is what % of buyers that will purchase this car will track it, even the models he mentions...they most likely will engage in street racing.

@@checkdilevels1180 you make a good point as well. Would be one hell of a commuter car

Hear hear, 2019 V6 SH-AWD and I have no intention of tracking it as it’s my daily driver and when I do push it you push harder in the corner to get that all wheel drive to bias to the rear AND IT GOES LIKE ITS ON RAILS. This is true that he can’t get it to break looose - go ahead and pull the fuse again 😅🤣🤣

Maybe that's why they're testing a personal car, not a press car

I think he got butt hurt over that situation and now that’s why here’s so critical of Acura lol.

@@JayJay-he9bk doesn't look like it, seems like a overweight and understeery mess.

@@JayJay-he9bk Not really, I mean the hype was serious and it failed

@@sanesc2543 I think they overhyped it way too much.

OKAY! ITS TRUE.

Ok please clam down alright?🤷‍♂️ This is ture agreement.

Scotty Kilmer had some good things to say about this car as well, not without caveats (but honestly those come with every car nowadays)

white is ugly lol stop lying to your self

Sub par is a good way to describe it.

That’s kinda what every Acura has been like for quite a while now. Liked my parents 93 legend as a kid though. Loved that car.

@@bojangles6444 The Legend was a Legend. Back then my older sister had a boyfriend that had one, it was the only reason I tolerated him lol

I feel like they over hyped it to be this super performance car but it’s more for drive feel and luxury a lil but I feel.

@@black_phantom7506 lol great story

Ditto

Same here 😒

Same routine, disappointing results 😑

it s faster than more than 80% of the cars on the road lol, atleast it would be here in romania.

Oversteering on ramps is not a real problem.

They ways he says his name. Makes me think he’s gonna say team rockets motto. (Pokémon)

😂😂😂😉

Uglier than Kia Stinger for sure and worse performance

I still think the 3G TL is the high-water mark.

@@cnon. I said nothing about Kia, nice opinion tho...

Kinda looks Like the 6th gen pre face lift camaro ss but even better somehow

It looks great

Wait until Hondata drops along with all of the other performance mods. People will build monsters out of this car. I estimate that $10k wisely spent will easily get you over the 500hp mark.

This is exactly what I was expecting it to be. A GT car to replace the underrated Accord Coupe V6.

It has the performance, he just wants it to lose traction which if you want the car to go the fastest the Acura way is the best

Yeah wait until Hondata drops a tune so you can throw your powertrain warranty out the window so you can barely keep up with the rest of the competitors in its class 🥴

Sam Car Legion posted one today

@@rpgvag
I think he was referring to the Accord 2.0T Sport, but not sure. Even the Accord out runs the base TLX. I saw Sam's race this morning. Was happy to see the TLX Type S finally win a race, even if it's competition was a lesser version of it's self.

@@rpgvag incorrect.

@@wbwayne8887 Yes, I was referring to the reigning TH champion, Accord 2.0 Sport.

@@brianrainey2739
I would probably buy the Accord Sport 2.0T and not even walk into the Acura dealership to be honest. Lighter, more interior/cargo space, and with a tune, probably quicker than the TL Type S. I don't plan on tracking it, so I'm sure the handling would be more than adequate on the street. Probably wouldn't even need a tune.

I would argue the Lexus IS is much more reliable

@@57Nights I mean the people who created the motor for the Tlx Type S created the new Nsx's Engine

@@57Nights You'd argue wrongly... And the IS doesn't even have a comparable trim to the type-s.

@@dc5fallout How does that have anything to do with reliability? Lexus/Toyota literally make the most reliable cars in the market, unlike Acura which had notorious CVT failures in 2014-2018

@@AI-qd4vb Please explain to me how I'd "argue wrongly"? Did you forget that Acura had a massive recall for their CVT transmissions in 2015? Also the IS not only has a comparable trim but a much better trim than the type-s in the IS500 f-sport, it would literally wipe the floor with the type-s since its not only faster with its V8 but way more reliable.

Under? You mean overrated

Huh? I have an RSX type s. Better than that crap

This. All this.
BMW has speed and power locked down as of now.
Mercedes interior tech is good.
Audi had speed off the line, and good tech as well.
The Stinger/G70 can at least hang with the Germans in most areas but undercut them hard, so they get the value win.
Even the Q50 RS has the most advertised crank HP.
The Type S brings.. What to the table?

Most FWD 😅

I like the fact that Thomas can drive lol. It makes me trust his impressions a lot more

Definitely an underwhelming car for 50k period. Honestly I’d much rather get a car that’s prioritizing performance rather than this.

@@gtmike916 Considering the makeup of the segment & the hype that Acura built up for the Type S, I agree that its underwhelming & disappointing.

@@mutualdecline2174 I agree. They built the hype on this car like no other. Then to hit the price point they did and not have features in this car like it should but ultimately the weight of this car is holding it back. A good amount probably has to do with the double wishbone suspension if I had to make a guess

@@gtmike916 for 50k you can probably get an BMW M2CS 😂

@@AP-wu1rv More than likely used and personally I’m not a fan of BMWs. They seem to be quite a bit touchy when it comes to maintenance vs most other offerings.

I agree. A dealer told me $58,825 before taxes. I laughed & said I'd rather grab a Mercedes C43 or BMW M340I for that price because it's pretty much the same price

@@mutualdecline2174 that bmw or Mercedes would be about $65k...
Just wait a month till the market returns back to normal

@@drod6203 They're going for 63k in my state & on every car I have ever bought, I always get at least a couple hundred off the sticker price. I have no interest in buying the Type S. In May, I sold my 2020 Toyota Avalon TRD in anticipation of buying the Type S. Thought it was dumb to put down a deposit without driving it myself first & throwing out my chance to negotiate the price so I waited. Drove it after July 4th & knew right there that it was by far the slowest in the segment. I drove every car in the segment except the M340i & cadillac CT5v.
Also, Acura said back in May that they're only building 2000 units in the US so for those who till this day continue to place orders, they won't get theirs till about Dec or next yr. I'm only guessing but I know a guy who put his order in back in may & he's still waiting. After driving the Type S that's when the manager told me about the markup, little did he know, I wasn't interested after driving it so it could've been at msrp & I wasn't gonna buy it.

Lol they smoking crack with that price I'll get audi rs3 and smoke every 1

10k over msrp and it’s selling? Like everywhere or is that just in Jersey? I have never paid over MSRP on a car. Usually closer to invoice.

you just told me where i saw these gauges from! LOL.

The S4 that acura had at the launch at Laguna Seca was slower than the Type S at he drag race. Wonder what acura did to their S4 to make it slower.

@@Boostlagg 1st gear is nerfed pretty bad. Check out Savagegeese's review.

@@Boostlagg they ran the S4 in comfort and the Type S in sport plus mode. The S4 doesn’t launch hard in comfort mode

Looked impressive for all of 30 seconds..

the S4 in this review was rolling and not at a full stop. Huge difference when racing.

Idk much about the TL but I hear it was pretty good during its hayday.

I actually own one. A 2012. I put the quad tips in the rear to symbolize a type S😂

Very true the looks was just the only thing.

What? The best Type S was the RSX.

@@NeightrixPrime yep, an absolute work of art of a car, in terms of dynamics, it just wasn’t a beautiful car to look at lol

Kinda funny/interesting to see how different people interpret different cars. Everything they said about the Type S here is completely opposite of what Matt Farah had to say about it. Most reviews on this car have been very positive. This is the second I've seen that has been negative. And I THINK I lean towards the positive because A) I've driven one and thought it was nice and B) As soon as Thomas said "We're on the track because: Type S" he instantly indicated a lack of understanding what Type S cars are about. They're not track cars. That's what the Type-Rs are for. The "S" and "R" literally stand for "Street" and "Race", respectively. Everybody is entitled to their opinion but I think they went into this with inappropriate expectations.

@@stephenpatterson8056 I’ve driven one, and ordered one. It’s just too heavy. It’s a nice car.

@@stephenpatterson8056 I know this was 7 months ago but the type S does not stand for street lol. I don’t think that would even make sense.

I still don't like the way Lincoln does their shifters. They placed it too close to the infotainment system. They should have just kept a rotary shifter in the center of the car, just like every other Ford (except the trucks and the Bronco).

Tell that to Anton Yelchin
There is a difference between getting used to something vs just plain un-intuitive

I could get used to eating ice cream upside down and sh!tting it out in a bag. The point is, there's no reason to. Nor should I have to.

@@mrsj1417 incorrect

@@iamthelaw69 incorrect.

The looks are the best. It the first thing you see about a car

damn right..best comment here!!

I ended up keeping my stinger GTS because this is lack luster performance

You both made good choices.

Well all those competitor cars are as expensive. They ain't them analog Hondas with electric distributors and plug in spark plugs people think they still are. You want luxury and performance? Pay luxury and performance prices.
If you really want the bmw or Mercedes just get it, the warranty is fair and the after market is very wide and parts are shared among the models and you can find a personal tech anywhere. Best of all, the cars are pretty reliable. The cars aren't as expensive as people think they are.

Wise men ❤️

Stinger? Wasn’t Kia giving away cars like 15 years ago? I can’t think of that company and not think crap. Maybe I am wrong- never driven one. Just my association with the brand. Maybe I am behind the times I am almost 40.

This thing is heavier than my Challenger, and that's saying a lot lol

@The Insufferable Tool it’s also hilarious how the car is based on the Accord platform, yet has legroom comparable to the Civic 😂 it’s so dumb how little legroom is has

@@ramennoodlz means this drivetrain needs swapped into a stripped-out accord ;)

@@ramennoodlz Lol is not based on the accord platform. The previous TLX was 2020 and previous. This one apparently has a new chassis

@@OrionTripp oh mb, thought this generation was also based on 10th Gen accord, but I think this TLX has very similar exterior dimensions to the Accord, but it’s lacking a lot with leg room in comparison to the Accord

Accord type R when

Yea, it is disappointing. It seems the only real reason to get a TLX over a maxed out accord is SH-AWD… The Touring Accord is faster, has a nice interior, costs like 60% of this, and has a much more useable trunk and rear seat.

This car is not even a good sports sedan I mean... not even a good luxury car either. No power in the rear seat? wtf? The G70 backseat is laughable still way more luxurious than the Type S. This car is not good at anything.

Yeah, I have to agree with you. They let a lot of fans down with this one. We waited for well over a decade for the Type S to come back and we got a car that is seriously behind in a lot of categories.

Check out the new facelifted F-Pace SVR.

@@vandit945 Don't get me wrong, I love Jaguars. But they aren't doing enough to pull me away from Porsche and BMW,

I feel like Alfa Romeo is doing pretty good rn actually

With Honda/Acura you get reliability- Acura takes that to another level with luxury/sport. This Type S is kind of a letdown. Look at cars like the Civic Type R, Accord 2.0T. Even past cars like 2007 TL Type S, RSX Type S. Those are still legendary til this day.
Lexus and Toyota are boring. Except the ISF. LC, and
BMW and Mercedes are German junk that’s hella expensive and hella more expensive to fix.
Genesis. No thanks.

@@EricTheGreat508 these Japanese luxury brands are just as expensive to repair. Most parts like adaptive cruise lane keep assist etc are outsourced from 3rd party manufacturers. Lexus is still very reliable but Acura has slipped recently and is only okay reliability wise. The design is unique but the cost is comparable to its rivals while the comfort and performance is not. I honestly think a fully loaded Accord or Camry will full the desires of a prospective TLX type S buyer just as well with better reliability and a far more reasonable price tag at the expense of a little bit of performance and a little bit of luxury. But most people gushing about the Type S want it because it's a Type S not because it's objectively good at anything other than existing and chugging gas. All the adulation this car gets is nostalgia and pantomime from what I've seen.

I doubt that any of these cars will be on the road in 20 years the cost to maintain the turbos and an AWD system are prohibitive. These are lease and dispose cars.

@@ismailkhan9698 maybe for you, my friend is still driving his 1995 Celica... it is all about the type of person you are. People who take good care of their cars manage to get incredible mileage out of them and Honda knows how to build cars to last.

@@alexcoyg3281 Scotty? Is that you?

@@BraddyT 😄😄😄

@@alexcoyg3281 I drive a 2009 maxima for the record

I have one but not a manual unfortunately. Still a great car for 14 years old

The Genesis G70 and Kia Stinger are way faster for the money and can be had with RWD. This Type-S looks nice but that’s it. Not worth 50k in my eyes.

The most BRUTALLY HONEST testimonial I've ever seen on a car. I Salut u. Yea man I agree, I knew what it was before it's debut. I had a hard time believing that this car can beat the S4. Why? Because if so, Acura would've been all over that on the airwaves & Acura never came out with a 0-60 time, even after it's debut which is almost unheard of when talking performance cars. Then the weight, it's too heavy for a single twin scroll turbocharged V6. U need a twin turbo or a V8 to move that weight quickly.

Mad respect man!

Thanks for the honesty first of all but while reading your comment I kept waiting for the “but!” that never came. Why did you get the car then? I’d love to hear what sold you on this compared to the competition.

The Acura fanboys need hear this. You are being totally honest. I’ve seen some think rationally and see the car for what it is. But majority are still in denial it’s really crazy. You got balls bro💯

@@Tsand4 as a ‘Acura fanboy’I approve of this comment. It shouldn’t have to be this way tho, they failed us, they embarrassed us. I hope they don’t screw up on the nsx type s/ type r, I don’t think there is much to screw up on there tho, it’s already a fast car but we’ll see. I hope Acura cuts the crap on the refresh/redesign. We need a competitive sport sedan to be proud of. I hope the is 500 goes well for Lexus

I want to see this quite a bit.

They have one on their Extra channel!

Age of empires 4 coming this fall!

A similarly equipped M340i or C43 is over $15k more expensive in Canada. The Type S in terms of *pricing* is closer to a similarly equipped 330i, which the Acura would smoke.

@@TheBreakfastLover would much rather get a year old M340i, C43 or S4. Even a V6 G70. The Acura starts with the wrong formula and can’t overcome its flaws.

@@TheBreakfastLover I know there are deals to be had on C43 and M340 so the pricing probably isn’t terribly different. I think it’s worth spending a few thousand extra anyway for the German competition as they’re more complete packages.

That's great news :)
More reliable cars for the rest of us. :)

I agree. My Acura dealer wants $10k over MSRP while Mercedes is giving $5k off. The price is the same while Mercedes, BMW are just better.

​@@layne4376 I'm gonna have to disagree on the "vastly better built part" based on two years of ownership. It's held up extremely well and between my 2022 MDX and the Stinger there is no discernable difference in build quality from materials to fit and finish. I don't own stock in either company and I really don't care what you or anyone else buy, but I do disagree with your comment. The TLX may handle better based on more time with the MDX and the SH-AWD and the double wishbone suspension that they both have. It's legit and I bet in a smaller vehicle it's something else.
We don't keep cars longer than 2 years in my house. The Stinger is almost at that point and the wife and I just haven't found anything that we would rather have.

m340i> stinger@@11780_votes

The problem is the fuel economy hit... Too inefficient for not enough go.

The S4 can have the same thing (sport rear diff). Mine does.

I am starting to see some Broncos around on the road, they seem pretty damn nice.

I still would go for the acura. It's not American, is fantastic outside of a race track and it will have a great resale value. I have driven both and the type s is awesome. The bronco is a good, but still a ford.

Which says a lot because Infiniti and Stinger are cringe

@@cnon. you mean Genesis, because Infiniti is definitely not cringe that VR30 can push some serious power like 500+ whp with a tune and bolt ons

@Sean Rienzo Kia and Tesla are the worst built/quality cars on the road

@Sean Rienzo bro Kia has NOTHING on Merc or Audi interior. I know someone who bought a new Forte and had complete engine failure after 30 thousand miles

I’d choose the 2021 S5 sportback if we are comparing class and price.

And exactly what car are you excited for?

The TLX Type S is also almost double the price of a Veloster N, so I would hope so lol

@@orangejuice-xi3gt
That doesn't always mean everything when it comes to automobile performance.

@@orangejuice-xi3gt Double the price would be 70K not including markups. This is 54-57k. That is a 13-16k delta. It's 20k more.

ACAB

Horsepower in a drag car isn’t a talking point in the track. This better beat a cat on a track

I mean it was priced to fight, they didn't say it'd do good.

@@m1l3s27 true

still slow. No intake is going to fix this engine and steering dynamics. Its trash.

Y’all bitch about anything.

Put 10k in it to make it as good as it’s competitors lol

How is that even possible? 😑

This is the problem with the car, trying to cater to people like you. This is the type S, its supposed to be fast. Literally its only job is to be fast. Instead they wanted to appease everyone by making it ultra safe, comfortable, bloated with tech, predictable, and easy for stacey to drive to the supermarket. Look at the previous type-s acuras and how insane they handled.
Asking for stuff like 16 way adjustable heated rear seat ass massagers is how we got stuck with a bloated car like this. Would have been 1000% better if they just focused on performance IMO.

@@samuelrizzari994 you are insane. The previous generation didn't handle that well either; it understeered even worse than this one. Try to let reality into your world once in a while. Go buy a lotus Elise

and if you want a hud you can only get it on the 4cyl.

@@samuelrizzari994 no ass massages in this sorry. Ct5-v has it though. Even the 4cyl is 4000 lbs so from the start Acura screwed up

You’re hot 😍

I was considering waiting to get the TLX Type S, but picked up a Stinger GT1 AWD a couple of years back. I thought I'd get buyer's remorse, but after these guys' review (as well as savagegeese's), I'm glad I didn't wait. I'm disappointed that Honda/Acura couldn't deliver on the performance on this car, and shocked on how much heftier and bigger it is compared to the rest of the class, yet has a smaller interior.

Reliability is the downfall of the Koreans, if you are leasing than they are the way to go, but for buyers they should be avoided

@@-SP. I disagree. Reliability has improved considerably in recent years. Kia and Hyundai have been in the top 3-5 among all car brands. I've been a Honda/Acura owner and fan for decades, but have been impressed and now own a couple of Korean market cars, one of which is a Stinger.

@@JamesSarino Just last year there was the massive Hyundai fire scandal. I've only owned my 21 Elantra for 3 months, and the navigation system is already crashing. I seriously messed up buying this shit

same

Yeah and slap a V8 and call it a Type-R

@@randomghost4385 Does Honda make V8 anymore?

@@sonnyzhao2309 i dont think they ever really have tbh i cant think of one honda v8 maybe im trippin

@@sonnyzhao2309 from what I remember Honda doesn't make v8 engines only v6.

@@sonnyzhao2309 They have never made a V8. They were designing one for the first time but Obama's MPG war convinced them that V8's where not the way to go. Honestly I'm really dissapointed that honda never made a V8 outside of an F1 car. With current technology they should be able to make one with decent MPG by having the valve shutoff in certan driving situations like what the corvette engine does and other V8's by other manufacturer's. I also believe Toyota should update the tech in their V8's instead of dropping them for V6's. But now they want to go full EV which sucks.

A man with common sense 👍 fanboys are delusional to defend this fail

Good looking car still

Is500

I miss the 04-09 TL that was a damn good car

I miss the 04-09 TL that was a damn good car

Love that car. I have a black one. They are great cars. It 180k miles on it and still runs great. Haven't even replaced anything yet as there is no need to!