A Total War Saga: TROY - MYTHOS | Historical Mode
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- Coming for free alongside MYTHOS is a brand-new Historical mode which removes all monsters and magic from the TROY campaign. A few highlights for you:
π‘οΈGeneral Bodyguards!
βοΈNo single entity units!
πAdministration!
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Thank you for keeping modders in mind when making this we appreciate it.
Yes, this!
Amen.
As a modder - do you think that Mods will spill over from Steam to Epic or will steam have more mods period?
@@Arcaryon Steam has a bigger user base so most mods will be on their side from what i can tell. But with that being said there will be people to port them over to epic so i wouldnt worry about it
Finally I can play as Sean Bean, the only historically accurate representation of Odysseus
He also manages to survive through the main plot this time!
Theres also arman asande btw
Even if surviving-till-the-end Odysseus is the least accurate representation of Sean Bean.
and the only film where everyone, but Sean Bean, dies.
It's weird...Ain't that true that netflix showed true original Achilles which was black?! And probably woman, a trans woman, trans non binary entity self called wahman? That's no historical accurate mode xD
This really feels like the revival Troy needs.
I know right? Something for the long time Total War fans (like myself) who want to play a game that's closer to the series' roots.
Ok, I LOVE the option to change the bodyguard of the general when it starts to level up, didn't expect this to be a thing!
Thank you very much, dude! As the guy that designed this feature, this means a lot!
@@icoivo5529 I love it too, hope to see it come to more TW titles.
@@icoivo5529 Thats a great feature! Thanks for developing it and I hope that its a returning features on future titles!
Thank you for making historical mode free.
i just redowloaded troy for this to find out it is not available. when is it?
@@HistoricalWeapons September the 2nd if i heard correclty.
Alright, CA this mode is awesome and unexpected. You have an interesting opportunity here to create something awesome. If you do just one more expansion, you could expand the map and add the Hittites, Babylonians and Egyptians into the mix for a true Bronze age experience. Add the sea peoples as an end game invasion and bam, we have a long dreamed about Bronze Age Collapse game.
@@alexseferiades4412 me too! But with family and politics only Iβd pay for it
It would be awesome if they add as long as the Mesopotamia, I think it would be a lot of work but dunno. Tho I'll be happy and pay good cash even if they just add Egypt and the Levant
Let's hope they don't give up on it like they did Three Kingdoms.
Bro that's asking so much for a saga
@@HistoricalWeapons I would have said the same thing about them adding EITHER a historical mode or mythical mode to Troy. Yet, here we are getting both.
I'm honestly more interested to see this than the mythos mode. We all know how Total War Warhammer plays, but its been some time since we've had a proper historical experience.
Person A hits person B with pointy end of stick. Exciting.
@@TheRealXartaX your mind is poor ...do you know tactics?!
@@TheRealXartaX player launch vortex spell into blob of models because the AI is dumb, exciting
@Ian Yoder Of course it is. A magical stick is far more exciting than a normal stick.
@@TheRealXartaX yes, it's weird that we find games about war so entertaining, huh?
i still believe that historical removes everything new about three kingdoms without replacing it with new historical content. It's like a feature slider but locked to specific modes. Troy is a step in the right direction.
No, it fixes the game and removes the bloated dull gameplay from warhammer
This will feel like having Age of Empires 2,Age of Empires 3 and Age of Mythology in one game.
More like Age of Empires 1 and Age of Mythology, you mean?
@@Chtigga,well actualy what i meaned is having the realistic game(either 1 or 2),the semi-fantasy one(3 had powerfull explorers,tamed wild animals and the fountain of youth) and the fantasy one(AoM) in one game.
This feels like a lesson well learned. Kudos CA I love you so.
Those historical additions will be great to the next full historical TW game
I've been replaying TW Rome II recently, and I'm having as much fun as I have with TW Warhammer II
Finaly. On release I played Troy for an hour and Odysseus "eating" 1000s of arrows killed it for me. Going to give it another go after this update. Leave the single entity units to Warhammer.
Odysseus realistically could. Achielies however should die from one arrow to the foot.
In the way they have made is the best. 3 options so everyone is cover.
Finally i can play this game. Historic mode iis what fans want
I personally don't mind the monsters either
β@@Dsonsee then go play freaking Warhammer.
@@daviddezericky4332
no
stop gatekeeping total war games, no one cares, CA is still profitting anyways
@@daviddezericky4332 with the 3 modes, everybody can enjoy the game
@@daviddezericky4332 don't cry
Finally: A Troy campaign I'm genuinely excited about! This is looking really good.
Wasn't really interested in Troy when it first came out, mostly because it didn't chose for Mythical or Historical but tried to please both and in doing so disappointed all. So real happy to now have the 3 modes in campaign and multiplayer/custom battles. Also loving some features that are being added like (some (single Entity)) flying units being able to land without having to engage (something I sorely miss. in WH I-II), having a bit smarter supply lines system. Where growing increases the cost to try prevent or delay the snowballing which happen in all total war (and most strategy games) campaigns. But also have bonuses when you grow despite the increased cost of units. Also really loved to hear that it's a bit more in depth and smart and not just the more armies or units you have the more efficiency required. But that it actually keeps in account which tier of unit it consists of (and rather how many units then how many armies?). So you are not "forced" into making only doomstacks if you want to play efficient.
Further I didn't like single entity heroes, collision and combat and just the overall look of units as they were to fantastical and shiny for my taste. I rather have them a bit grim especially in a historical title. And sure it was not made by the main studio, and is now branded as a Saga title. But that doesn't mean I enjoy it any more. Also campaign didn't feel like it had that much to offer in terms of mechanics or innovations. There was also quite some balance issues (Chariots, heroes, diplo,...) but it happens and I don't dislike all.
The only thing I really really liked was the diplomacy (Just as 3K) (even if it was really exploitable at launch, just ask 3K) and how the other currencies interacted with it. But now I'm seeing more and more things I like, making me want to pick up the game. Which I got for free on the Epic games but barely bothered with ever since as I'm still playing WHII, Med II, Rome and the occasional Shogun 2,...
So real happy with these updates and hope you guys learned a lot from this. (I think mainly the Diplo in this and 3K is a huge improvement over all older titles, people like Historical and Mythological total wars but not something in between, people like interesting battle maps but it has to have variation and the scale has to fit (Sieges looked almost as bad in this as in WH) If you want interesting sieges look at Med II or Thrones of Britannia because sieges (and the idea of the recruitment system) are the only good things that came out of ToB as far as I remember.
Ans most of all people like choice hence why the decade old titles are still played and revered despite their shortfalls and outdated looks and worse features and no content for 15 years. Those games gave so much freedom and choice, making for so much to do despite not having nearly as much features or units as in newer titles. The fact they are so moddable also is a real big part but that oneβs again goes back to more freedom in what you want to do in your campaign. And despite Med II and Rome I being so easy you could still find a challenge in blitzing,... So loving stuff like the option of Generals to get new bodyguards, but not forcing them on them but being able to swap them in and out as mounts in WH.
So glad to see these changes! Honestly I liked Troy as it was before (especially the Diplomacy and the multi-currency/resources system I think was a HUGE improvement), but now I'm even more curious and eager to play a full historical campaign! Because for a full Fantasy one, I already have Warhammer II.
3:00 Yes, we need more of this! I want bad units to be a strategy late game
Would it not make more sense to become stronger over time?
And progressively become more ruthless at war. π
@@sownheard He means cheap units. With the supply lines, you are penalized for every army rather than the units themselves, making quality much better than quantity. With the new system, you can have a bunch of armies with a bit of elite and a lot of chaff, without being "penalized" for every cheap unit. In the older system, having a cheap army guarding one of your borders would inflate the cost of your other armies for no real reason.
Thank you for this! Im very excited about the historical campaign, thank you for taking us into consideration.
I mostly play TW Warhammer nowadays, but if I have to play Troy I prefer a historical approach instead of being a Warhammer with less variety
β@Cornelia Don't worry, this historical mode made the game look a lot more interesting to pick up. Troy is in a complete different setting or even genre (mythological can be compared to fantasy but isn't exactly that), but still, I personally not that interested to play the Mythos game mode while I can have a much better fantasy experience in Warhammer with much better variety. What Warhammer can't offer is the feeling of realism and immersion that and historical mode would do. Maybe you assumed that I was denying Troy more refined game and campaign mechanics, sorry but that wasn't my intention, in Total War I just value battles a lot more than campaign mechanics.
@Cornelia No worries
Can't wait to try it out myself!
Wow good work CA! It kinda splits the multiplayer scene( which wasnt strong to begin wiith ) but opens up sooo much potential for modding!
Always think Generals are heroic when they are vulnerable, but charge with his man, not charging on his own. The choice to upgrade bodyguard is also very good.
YES, This is what we wanted!
I'm hyped for the mhytical stuff but I will definitely play this mode the most!
I just still hope for better fighting animations...
I am simply Loving the bodyguard and administration feature. Really excited to play this mode.
Such a huge positive for the total war series to do. Great job CA keep it up, the future is looking very promising for the entire franchise as a whole.
Amazing π giving players more choices is always great
This gives me reason to go back to Troy. I thought CA has gone all in to put single entity hero for ever game, but this update, is such a relieve.
Much appreciated! I've been looking forward to a historical Troy Total War since 2005.
Iβm excited for both this and mythos
I really like the Admin bar being added to the game. I hope that works out well to be put into future games
A drop of water in the desert of Total War for the historically inclined player(?).
Cry more warhammer 3 best total war by far
@@ultravolt4555 its sucks, as u do. go cry
@@teutonicorder9520 yikes tell that to the legend of total war
i honestly dont care about hiim, neither warhammer 3 or this shitty game. lel
THIS is good. This is REALLY GOOD! Keep doing this for other games!
thanks for the update !
OMG now we have almost two games into one. Amazing!
Lots of really cool changes here and this feature alone will get me back into the game.
Now just add naval battles, no matter how simple they have to be to fit the setting
I love naval battles in shogun 2, was a little disappointed to see that warhammer 2 didn't have them. I hope the they plan to add it to Troy in the future.
I prefer they do naval battles in the next generation of Total War Games. The actually generation is not adapted for me for naval battles.
@@KaiserTepes Whether we get Empire 2 or Medieval 3 for the next one, improved naval warfare would be HUGE. Its been okay at best since conception, so it would be really nice to see fleets get the updates they need. (After we get all the much needed improvements like population, better unit cohesion, and formations that aren't dictated by a button that says "you have literally no downside to clicking me so just do it."
Glad to see there was some effort put in the historical mode.
Donβt accept their poor efforts please ....no family no politics its baby game
@@ismaelhossameldin9896 Yep, would be cool to deal with the wifes at home. Poor Agamemnon... :(
Thank you so much for historical mode
I REALLY am enjoying historical mode. Great job
Removing single entities i all I ever wanted. But gotta admit, still very curious about trying out the mythos mode too.
Nothing wrong with liking pure history/pure fantasy. Important thing was getting rid of the worst of both worlds mode that they had before. Hopefully future titles will follow suit.
Ok, I would like to try this out. And I also hope that you guys implement similar updates to the records mode in Three Kingdoms Total War.
Lol, Three Kingdoms? There never was a Three Kingdoms, citizen. Move along before you get the stick.
CA already abandoned 3K, so no more update
@@auradzrts691 This is why I said " I also hope". Because there's 99% of no chance of reviving that game.
@@ReviveHF Yeah maybe they will implement it in the next game/sequel of 3K.
Three kingdom is dead friend..
Great job on this game BTW, even before the update Troy has to be one of the better totalwar games ever made and its a saga title. I look forward to the historical mode and also the myth mode.
VERY nice! really like how Administration is not just a straight penalty
Can we get Total War Empire 2, with George Washington riding a Great Eagle against King George III riding a dragon?
Are you a child?
@@ismaelhossameldin9896 Is that what you call all fantasy total war players?
@@RawCauliflower haha noπ
I love the body guard mechanic!!
Hehe π I was waiting for this as well!!
I am legit excited.
I have nothing but respect for the fact that you guys added both flavours of Troy to satisfy both halves of us. Thank you for this.
Can't wait to play this!!
All three look excellent. Troy is such as aesthetic game
I like what Iβm hearing. I still think it can be improved on even more though.
Looks promising, can not wait to try it!
but did they fix the sharpness issue, Game is blurry on all settings.
the replayability is amazing !
Can we hame an option for bodyguards in Warhammer total war as well?
Will we get naval battles?
Will the steam ver be free on launch too for one day or not?
Nailed it!
But does the actual hero model have more HP than its bodyguard? I would hate to see the hero get sniped in the first minutes of battleβ¦
Generals always have their own HP, even on the histΓ³rical ones
Just a bit more than the bodyguards so You have time to pull them out of danger
Remember rome 2, the generals Don't usually die unless the unit falls below the certain ammount of health
Finally, a little something for everyone.
i just redowloaded troy for this to find out it is not available. when is it?
Can't wait!
I LOVE what you are doing.
*(Just saying. I kinda miss naval battles...)*
Homer never tells us how Helen looked like, he just states that she was the most beautiful woman ever lived. That way he lets every man create his own Helen in his mind.
This is the best of both worlds!
This is more like it Iβm actually going to buy Troy now please keep it up creative assembly
Looks fantastic.
I like quite a bit of the ideas in here, but as it always is devil lies in the details and only way to truly know is seeing how all those systems play together. I especially like the general units upgrade it makes sense actually & something to strive for, what I don't necessarily like is new units from events as opposed to new units from conquering the provinces, it was one of the best system in Medieval Total War 1 the game that CA should be closely looking at when it comes to gameplay immersion, even though being now pretty dated ofc
CA ARE our mythical heroes
I would love to see the bodyguard feature for lords and heroes in Warhammer.
This might actually convince me to try troy
I love this!
Alright, this actually seems pretty cool!
So, when's this gonna be free on Steam?
This is what tw3k needs too! the current Record mode is just not good even that i really want to play it.
If the administration level replaces the supply lines penalty then I think it's a good idea
Historical all the way.
thanks ! thats what we actually wanted..
Food was already a big issue in the previous mod but now it will be very hard to have more than two armies...
When is this feature coming to total war warhammer 3?
It is like getting three games in one. I like it.
I hope it'll be good
Hopefully this busts the door wide open for more historical titles.
And pls total war three kingdsoms 2 the same bodyguard system and i hope also a mythical mode in it it would be so nice and the bodyguard feature is not only cool for only historical it could be also for some historical factions
choosing the bodyguard a must have since rome 2 total war with mod (with the custom general bodyguard from small escort for speed to praetorian guard.)
Will smaller armies have their own bonuses?
Hallelujah
Troy is finally saved
Now I'm interested
NICE!
Best dlc of CA in general!
Im forgotten ca got troy this year ! And they will play with its until we forgotten Cathay ! Lol π
Does the Historical mode come with a family tree ? :)
How about custom multilplayer battles
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. The Amazon are included in the historical mode? Sure, they have their place in mythical mode, but in historical? No way.
The Amazons are supposed to represent a crude mix of Thracians and Scythians in Troy... could be worse. ;)
@Cornelia They should do mix-gender for the historical mode, instead of female-only from the myth.
@Cornelia That should be exclusif for the Myth mode, not the historical!
@Cornelia I think the Amazons are out of place, especially when talking in terms of "truth behind the myth". The Trojan war, or something similar, most probably happened, and even if the game is based around the Iliad, a "historical mode" should take the "truth behind the myth" approach a step further and reduce the most far-fetched elements of the Trojan war myth. You know, like a tribe of warrior women that actually can, even in the slightest, threaten an army composed of men.
@Cornelia lol, okay, dude.
May this be more interesting than mythic campaign
Its funny that the historical mode fits the Ilias better than the other two modes. Besides for Gods actively entering battle, there are no mythical events happening or mythical unitis battling. And as every single person in the illias is treated as a (more or less powerfull) hero, it doesnt really makes sense to highlight the armyleaders that much
Good, historical is what I needed. I like the more realistic play.
A single hero who is untouched by arrows and can destroy entire armies by himself is something I don't like in my strategy games. It belongs more in in single player RPG where you can be a one man army.
I'll also give Truth behind myth a try to see if it gets the balanced right.
Hopefully I'm not late for the historical fan up rage over dust not having enough detail lol
Thank you, I'm reinstalling now. I know Warhammer has become a safe bet (even I have bought both games and a DLC for the second), I and many others are quite tired of the non stop fantasy games being pumped out by a originally grounded franchise. I really am grateful for this and hope it's a sign of things to come.
Im alot more interested in this game thanks to this new mode