The Biggest Myth In Education
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- 게시일 2024. 04. 16.
- You are not a visual learner - learning styles are a stubborn myth. Part of this video is sponsored by Google Search.
Special thanks to Prof. Daniel Willingham for the interview and being part of this video.
Special thanks to Dr Helen Georigou for reviewing the script and helping with the scientific literature.
Special thanks to Jennifer Borgioli Binis for consulting on the script.
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Willingham, D. T., Hughes, E. M., & Dobolyi, D. G. (2015). The scientific status of learning styles theories. Teaching of Psychology, 42(3), 266-271. - ve42.co/Willingham
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Riener, C., & Willingham, D. (2010). The myth of learning styles. Change: The magazine of higher learning, 42(5), 32-35.- ve42.co/Riener2010
Husmann, P. R., & O'Loughlin, V. D. (2019). Another nail in the coffin for learning styles? Disparities among undergraduate anatomy students’ study strategies, class performance, and reported VARK learning styles. Anatomical sciences education, 12(1), 6-19. - ve42.co/Husmann2019
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My learning style is: being interested in the subject.
same
Yup. There you go.
If I was interested in something actually useful, I would have a PhD half way through high school😂
More teachers are using student choice and self selection of materials. They'll simplify this method to its detriment, too!
bad strategy at school.
"How do you know that you're a visual learner?"
"I don't. I just assume."
I hope that guy knows just how perfect and precise that answer is.
Yeah. I came here to make a similar comment. And by 'similar' I mean I was going to refer to him as "an absolute science gangster".
@@andyjohnson4907 Well, that's the technical term. 👍🏽
Google trying to enforce that we are all unique in some way that gives us benefits. Critical race theory whatnot. It seemed like veritasium started to backpedal on that idea though when he revealed that people employ memory strategies rather than simply being genetically dominant
seriously loved that
What a BAMF
I took this VARK test in high school, and as a student who didn’t perform well, I was SOO excited to find out my learning style. I scored the exact same in all categories... seems like that wasn't the reason for my struggle. I realized that once I started taking online classes in college, I learned WAY better when I wasn't around my peers. I would make funny faces, talk out loud, gasp!, yell "what!?!," stick my tounge out, lay on the floor, walk around the room, etc. Not that I needed to have a classroom that allowed me to learn this way... but I needed to have no one else watch me learning this way. I love having a real instuctor, but not other students watching me.
Now, I just simulate this by sitting at the front of the class, right in front of the teacher. No one sits in the front. Its always open. ❤
I always preferred sitting in the front row. Less distractions
Even Team Front
This comment is dope
lol why were you yelling on the floor with your tongue out in school are you on the spectrum
Also depends whether you right or left brain dominant, tactile or like moving, lot of factors needs to be considered and classroom teaching with more than 15 pupils makes it incredibly difficult.
That’s not learning. That’s remembering. Which could be the challenge in education… because learning is not solely about remembering.
"How do you know you are visual learner."
"I don't. I assumed."
What a legend.
Absolute legend
Genius man that accepts his own limitations
More honest than most
He spoiled the whole video from begining.
he must have seen something!
"how do you know you're a visual learner"
"I don't, I just assumed."
This guy learns
That man was just straight to the point.
Built different
wait, did he just assumed his learning style?
He had a hypothesis that he was a visual learner and he was ready to test it out.
@@Segovaxxx better than assuming a gender. Safer too.
My style : ADHD
This was a reassuring video for me. I always thought that I didn't really have a learning style because it depends on the situation and material. When someone asks me that question, I usually reply with "visual" because in my memory, I tend to absorb textbook information better by reading than listening to it (and I cannot do audiobooks/podcasts). But I also remember countless times where I would read the same paragraph over and over again because I couldn't understand what was happening, and I end up having to look up a diagram, try to map it out myself, or even hear it out loud before it clicks. Thus, I never thought I was truly a visual learner, rather it was just the one that I tend to lean more into, but I definitely require a bit of everything for the best results. It's good to know there's nothing wrong with me haha.
And side note, I never really understood what kinesthetic learning means when it's not like building/drawing/something active/etc. Like is doing practice problems in math or history considered "hands-on" ?
Same for me. It all depended on what was being taught. For example: spelling, or, geography, was just visually seeing and memorizing. But something like anatomy was part visual and part "hands on" in dissecting and then seeing. I worked in manufacturing for a while and when I first started, I had to be there and watch someone set up a machine. But, there was so much information to remember that, after watching a setup, I had an overall understanding of what needed to be done but I needed an "instructor" there with me as I was doing the hands on part to remember the little details that there was no way to remember it all until I had the repetition. This frustrated me because I can remember being in school and just intently listening to a, say...history discussion and remember the important points.
So I think the "best" or "smartest" students (or learners) are comfortable with every method of "learning". If you are too rigid and only learn "visually" for example, how can anyone ever explain anything to you?
Wow, this is so true.
No, doing practice problems would not be a kinaesthetic learning method. That would fall under reading and writing or visual learner. Kinaesthetic learners find it easiest and funnest to incorporate information (especially new information) using their entire body. If the child were to go over math drills or flash cards at home - they would enjoy to do so while bouncing on a small trampoline, or with the reward of bouncing or showing a trick every 3 correct problems. To introduce math topics, you would use manipulatives like base ten counting blocks, buttons, raisins, etc. something they can group up and move around to better take in the information. This will also please the visual learner. You can prepare numbers taped to the floor and have the kids jump from number to number when learning skip counting. You can have them go look around the room for items that would weigh less than a pound, have them bring them to you and then check their guess with a kitchen scale. You could do body movements like dancing or excersize while doing math facts or something more rote. Or you can let them doodle or draw in class, or kick their legs back and forth in their chair, or move about the room during the “boring/hard” part.
Isn’t it funny that we are all discussing the learning styles the video is trying to suggest do no exist? Learning styles are valuable, personal information to have for learning how you find it easiest to process new information. The commenter we have replied to needs to be able to pace or react physically in order to allow the information to go deeper (to assimilate/incorporate) on a first attempt - that is so valuable!!!! I am glad you found that out about yourself, @carmenmintrose.
When I took the VARK learning test, I was high in each area. It was explained to me that instead of having a brain with only a door and a window open, I had a brain with a door and all the windows open. I personally needed to receive information through more than one of those openings to be able to make sense of it. In other words, in more than one method in order to grasp it quicker. I was often a slower learner, especially when I found the material difficult, BUT, when I understood it, I understood it from several angles. I am also not nearly as slow to learn now that I am older because I can access all the old pathways made over time and hold a ton of information that I can access and use to make more recent, “new” connections faster.
This is the reason why those who often require more than one discipline to study well, can make great teachers. They can look at their student, see the information isn’t getting through and try an entirely different approach (or take a brain/activity break) on a dime a because they have had to do that for themselves all along!
My learning style is: "oh sh*t tomorrow's the deadline"
Procastinator
That's my style too!!
@@Jetoro the best learning experience is where your heart is beating like a rabbit
My preferred learning style is the adrenaline rush 10 minutes before the test
@@Jetoro should have added "the"
i'm a pressure learner, i only learn school material when there's severe stress and doubts about my future imposed on me
strong emotion melts the learning material together
Facts
based
Probably more a memorizer than a learner, then.
Looool nice
I remember this myth being taught to me for my education degree, and while I accepted it as fact, I also thought it wasn't particularly useful as you can't really cater to one specific learning style to the exclusion of others, when you have a whole classroom with different learning styles, so for me the result was the same as the conclusion of each video, I simply always tried to account for multiple ways to cover each topic. It worked not because I was hitting each person's style as I thought, but because of the redundancy and reinforcement in teaching the same thing in different ways.
Well put. No one can learn anything with instruction based in a modality. Everyone learns via multiple modalities. For example, I use my vision to read an eye chart. I use my hearing to learn the sounds my cat makes. I use my hands to find out a fabric’s texture.
I agree I am a mixed learner. I like someone explaining & showing me, then letting me try it on my own.
Now I do learn when this doesn't happen, ie. I'm only given oral instructions, but I find it comes easier/quicker for me if I can have it shown & explained, then try it myself. Plus the lesson sticks longer.
For college & high school, I simply memorized by rote, usually visualizing the text book in my head, but as soon as the test was done, the information was gone, so I wouldn't call that a style of learning, since no true learning was being done.
Veritas: How do you know that?
"I don't, I just assume."
Smartest dude of the bunch.
i was waitijng for this comment
About the post the same comment :D
He knows enough to realize how much he doesn't know.
"Dude, trust me." Absolutely based and gigachad.
Was Just about to comment that myself
"Most people would learn geography better with a map"
That checks out
You can also take the people and the map to the geography.
Nah just tell them it is 5 thousand miles north of the south pole and 12 thousand south of the north pole and 60 thousand west of the Philippines they will know exactly where its at that way.
Sorry, but I Do learn way faster by observing visual information in combination with text. An image helps a lot to remember stuff... Am I a visual learner: well I learn faster and with more ease.
@@facefact3737 hey should watch the video fully
@@engelsseele2 That may actually just be a matter of what you're used to. After all, I can completely relate those numbers to eachother in any other context and they give in fact a way better picture of the relation of one place to another than does a map, simply because just visually gauging seems to be very inaccurate, let alone the fact that maps distort A LOT due to projections, so learning the size of Russia by looking at a map is quite literally the WORST thing you can do, because its apparent size on a map is like twice its actual size.
I have been a dog trainer for 10 years. I have always believe there are different learning styles and therefore present my training in a way that touches on all three. I demonstrate, explain, and give worksheets to every client. I have always done it this way to ensure the information is absorbed by my clients since I am not able to determine each and every clients learning style. Dog training really should be called people training. That said, I never realized this was a thing and it's called multimedia. I guess now I feel a bit silly for not realizing that. I have always felt like I understand new things best by a bit of everything. I like to hear it explained, see it done, take notes, read the instructions (or read about a topic), and try it for myself. I incorporate a lot of "experience" stories to clients to help them understand why something might be happening or what could happen if they do something a certain way. I loved this presentation on learning. This has definitely broadened my thoughts on the subject.
"I prefer to learn about things that I want to learn" - best learning style
Yes
Natural curiosity makes you go ahead and find any source to learn about. It doesn't matter if text, visual, kinestethic or auditive. Everything will do and the whole mixture of those is great to learn anything
How to fail In school 101
one of the best comment i ever seen
Autodidactic 😉
The best way to learn something is being actually interested in the topic.
Or to memorize every problem.
So by extension, the best teacher is one who manages to make/keep their students interested.
Yes
Absolutely.
Also, if your job compels you to learn about it...
@@elmz Yesss . That's it
That is so motivating to watch. Back when I was in primary school, teacher gave us tests (kind of primitive one) to guess our preferred way of learning. I answered honestly and it came out that I do not have a single preferred way instead multiple of them. I was very proud of that result and surprisingly teacher was, too. So it's relieving to find out that that's exactly the way, multiple ways
The interesting thing here is that, when i was a younger, i thought of myself as a visual/ kinesthetic learner in the sense that i needed to either see something physically happen or do it myself to internalize it. While there is certainly some truth to that for me, as I've gotten into college, i'm noticing exactly this - the best approach is a combination. Some things really sink in when you hear them, some when you see them, and some when you feel them, etc. The most beneficial thing is to take the same concept and approach it from so many perspectives that at least one sticks and to just continuously do that.
Interesting. My learning style is: slow.
Lol can relate so bad.
Lol! Mine too!
Lol me too 😂
Slow, but detailed learning, my friend.
Me brain in study or in exam
Pls help
My brain when playin WT/WoT
LT go here, defend this flank, kill that R3 T20, arty annoying LT kick their ass, flank enemy is weak and cant spread tank anymore, rush he need to reload
I'm a clarity learner. I learn better when the information is clearer.
see my comment
Exactly
@Dyanosis not true at all 😂😂 maybe you’re just dumb. Plenty of courses I had ZERO interest in yet retained clear information ☠️
isn't that literally everyone?
Agreed :3
The discussion and exercises in the video often equate learning with memorisation. When people say they are visual learners, I think they are trying to express that they can often understand complex concepts faster/better by seeing a visual representation, rather than pages of text. If instead of a list of items to remember you had given people a written explanation of how a volcano or a TV works, vs a diagram or animation explaining the same and compare how quickly and comprehensively people understood, you may see a different results, or at least results more aligned with what people are trying to express.
To my mind, it's your attitude towards what you are learning that makes a difference, if you are interested and motivated to learn you will do your best to understand and find the right ways to remember essential information, I agree that a different material requires a different learning style. Sometimes I remember by visualizing pictures, and sometimes by listening, and more often by watching videos for example.
That one guy,
"How do you know?"
"I don't, I just assume."
Most honest human answer to anything we experience ever
"Any empirical data on that?" "No I made it up to make me feel better" would end so many arguments, and its not even shameful its just understandable
Socrates would be pleased.
How did you succeed
in making a comment with 7 rows
to be presented here
without YT breaking it by adding "read more"?
@@damyr Personally I had to click "read more". Are you positive you didn't click it so automatically that you didn't realize you had? I've done stuff like that before.
Well most of the science that we were taught was developed after assuming a lot of stuff
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"How do you know you're a visual learner?
-I don't, I just assume"
This man figured it out
the most honest and self aware from the group LOL
Someone find that dude and clone him. We need more people like him in society.
Literally, whenever I was asked that I just assumed, "Oh, I must be kinesthetic" but it's not that straightforward
lol this guy cracked me up!
Most people probably think that visual learning is taking a book or video home and learning there at their own pace, instead of being in a noisy classroom where there is a lot of pressure to perform. For instance, if a person feels uncomfortable at the lecture, and understands everything much better by reading the study book later, he might think it is because he is a visual learner. So they don't even know the definition and mix up forced socializing (being around other people while learning something), pressure from other students or teacher and the learning style.
It might be so because usually different learning styles have different levels of socializing, for instance if you call yourself a hands on learner, you might like having one on one time with teacher, them showing you what to do and then can finish it on your own. At the same time, verbal learning often includes being in front of many people when answering the teacher, the pace is dictated by the teacher and everybody is watching you.
In fact, this video made me feel uncomfortable, because I can't relax when the other person is there, I'm thinking more about doing something wrong and I can't turn those pages on my own to develop a strategy or look at something for longer. Also, I find it hard to switch between socializing and learning. I don't think either of those methods were what people think of when they talk about visual learning - seeing something on their own, not being distracted and not being disturbed by the other person talking when they switch their mind into seeing in pictures instead of words.
This makes so much sense, as I could never pick one specific learning style which worked best for me. For me, I always found I learn best when I have all three modalities of learning together, and separating them into individual categories just felt dumb, but I always played along with the surveys and picked one. I'm so glad I found this and now know I'm wasn't completely crazy.
I think not just the variety of presentation styles matters, but how interesting it is also plays a huge role. Or more accurately how interested the learner is. I always remembered Bill Nye stuff more than whatever the teacher droned on about simply because it was a special occasion and was therefore more interesting.
“what kind of learner are you?”
“a slow one…”
Haha 😂😂 me too
Relatable
as an autistic guy i felt that
Oof, saaame. I tend to hold onto information very strongly when I do learn it, but I'm a slow learner and I can get overwhelmed really easily.
I´m the kind of guy who has to repeat at least 10x to learn something new...
"how do you know you're a visual learner"
"I don't, I just assumed."
*_He is the chosen one_*
istg hahah
My brother said i can get new potato if i can get 1k subs
I thought the same thing. I said out loud to my cat, "I like that dude."
2:59
@@rern5998 My brother said i can get new potato if i can get 1k subs
Memorizing a list is not the same type of learning as breaking down complex concepts and understanding how they make sense.
Yeah he said his experiment was not perfect. He did cite studies who did more thorough experiments
@@alifrahman7099 not only is it not perfect, but it is not sufficient to conclude anything about learning. I am baffled by how many people think they are learning something from this video.
@@CovenoftheOpenMind dont talk in a gay way btw
@@CovenoftheOpenMind Are you the guy who made VARK
@@Forsen807 what is VARK? I think most of psychology is bull. Psychology is a soft science.
Well done. Having sat through professional development sessions in using the bogus Learning Style approach, your video is a breath of fresh air.
"People learn best when they are actively thinking about the material."
This is it.
Exactly, the practical use of cognition into anki spaced repetition is more credible than VARK.
or when the teacher is not old and smelly.
That is a critical flaw in the video. Learning and understanding are different. Understanding a diagram is different from being able to do it a year later.
People have different "understanding" styles, and learning is fixing it in your memory to make it yours through time.
Musical instruments and learning; thinking about music you are learning increases your ability to play it on an instrument. 2weeks without an instrument BUT thinking about playing on that instrument will speed the ability to play any tune on an instrument. I.e get it in your head
Yeah, like he said "Learning Styles" is probably more a personal preference. Like i am personally fascinated by animations of mechanical interactions, but they alone probably wont help me learn how a combustion engine works without a written or spoken explanation of whats happening.
Likewise i also prefer to look up text-based tutorials on things i immediately want to learn in, say, photoshop, than watching a youtube tutorial. Despite myself believing that im more of a "visual learner".
These really explains well why I prefer all the learning styles. I couldn't just pick any that I preferred. I ought to believe one time my preferred style was visualize but now I understand it thanks to this video. But it also forgets to mention this that the sense of smell and taste also helps me retain what I learn. Like smelling an orange. If I saw an orange, heard the word orange, touched an orange, smelled an orange, tasted an orange, ate an orange, draw an orange, wrote sn orange. I would definitely remember it for long. Plus, the techniques and strategy also helps. Like active recalling, break times, storytelling, flash cards and so on. If I use all of my senses and all of the learning styles and strategy and techniques plus the motivation, discipline and curiousity. I would definitely learn it not only at memory but also at heart. I mentioned here that motivation, discipline and curiousity plays a big factor in these because without it how would you start? Without motivation you would procastinate at learning something or doing it. Without discipline, you wouldn't be able to consistenly learn it and putting effort on it. And wothout curiousity you wouldn't be able to take the lessons at heart.
So by combining all of these. I would be super saiyan🫨🫨🫨
"People learn geography better with maps." I'm one of the few who learns geography better by listening to the locations in sonar. 🐬
😅🤣🤣
Good job
Are you an active or a passive sonar learner?
😂😂😂
I learn Geography better by not being American 😁😆🤣🤣🤣
this explains to me why i've never really had one set learning style and instead prefer to
mix them together if or when i can. like listening to a book being read while reading it at the same time.
Most students learning style is: stress induced
As an educator, I was taught learning styles theory, and we were told to try to incorporate some or all of them in the lessons. The result was teaching the same material in a few different ways so that you'd reach everyone. The actual outcome was the material was presented multiple times, so the repeated exposure through a variety of styles helped everyone remember better. Don't just teach visual learners visually and kinesthetic learners with experiments; teach everyone with everything.
Share this with other teachers
Répétition is key for me as well
I'd agree except this bores the hell out of those of us who got it the first time and don't wanna spend a week on one thing.
@@Wally03 They are probably quite busy teaching, and teaching well by the sounds of things. Perhaps the education policy makers, who are not teachers, and are much more influenced by political trends would be better to deal with this. Perhaps you could write a letter to your local representative?
I've been saying that for years with a lot of pushback from older teachers.
Me: *Is completely blind
Veritasium: "You are NOT a visual learner"
Me: ...Yeah I kinda thought so
Are you blind?
@@orphanoforbit7588 I don't think they're going to see your comment.
Oh man
Actually there are some blind people who are visual learners xd
@@Vendrimavir Maybe they will hear the comment.
Text to speech is a thing...
I think for me I loved when we were doing different types of learning styles, the way of learning is important but I feel like eventually it comes down to implicating students and encourage flexibility. Give them time and enough supports but not too much as not to overwhelm them. I lack structure and I have ADHD so it’s important that things are clear. For example I always noticed that images, mind maps didn’t help me on their own because I don’t understand what exactly we have to learn from them. I think where we get it wrong is that we are not really good at one specific learning style but we can have difficulties with some because of specific disabilities that are often not addressed like bad hearing, bad eyesight, dalton’s vision, dyslexia, etc. I see a flaw in the test you ran, it only uses short term memory and doesn’t apply to things that don’t need to be copied and paste but understood and manipulated
I recall a teacher telling me he practised the martial art of "Tell-show-do", he further explained that his students learned best when first he told them about the subject matter, then he showed them a demonstration of the material, and finally got them to practise it themselves. This essentially covered all the perceived learning styles and helped everyone in his classes learn fairly uniformly.
Sounds like PPP (Present, Practice, Production).. Anyway, all different names for approaches that may or may not be scientifically based but have varying degrees of merit.
So sorry you were exposed to such a doctrinaire fool. I hope you managed to escape his insular and myopic clutches.
Yea but now supposedly that doesn't work they really push group work which is stupid!
@@brucedavis3816 Group work is emphasized because if kids are interested in each others' outcomes and tutor each other, then you functionally end up with more than one teacher and more classes than what the subject allotted, which helps somewhat cover the major weakness of trying to teach 20+ students at the same time on a tiny budget of hours per week.
Tell me and I will forget.
Show me and I will remember.
Involve me and I will learn.
-Benjamin Franklin
I’m a “memorization” learner: I memorize the material, pass the test, then immediately throw it out of my brain.
It would be a huge waste of time.
That isn't learning. That's just retaining information for some time and then completely forgetting it.
My biggest weakness Lol
And this is what most people do. The problem with that is that it renders the whole, you know, education thing completely pointless, the only reason you are memorising these things is getting a paper that basically says "this individual is capable of memorising some rubbish before a test." The whole world's education system is like this, and it's bad. If the stuff you memorise like this is actually important for your career, you will not know it in the future. If it isn't, well then having it in the curriculum is pointless.
You're very much not alone there, buddy
I'm a teacher who just discovered your channel. When you asked those people what Learning Style they were I imagined what I'd say in that position and I would have said "all of them - I'm a multi-modal learner". Then you went on and talked about multimodality so I take some solace in the fact that I am doing my best for my students in following this approach.
Thank you!!! Finally. You describe my experience with learning. When people ask me my learning style, I offer many different ways I learn. Though typically in the realm of how to present concepts for me to understand the most effectively. That each of my senses acts as a way I learn.
My learning style is: “I’ll do it tomorrow.”
My soulmate. 🤣
Oh so you are like me: a procrastinator
OH MY GOD 🤣🤣🤣😆
Paused the video to read the comments. I’ll come back soon
Which is a good strategy if you are stressed and tired today.
If you always are tired and stressed you should adress this before embarking on learning.
It is totally worth it: learning is the most mind altering drug out there ;-)
And how will you "cheat" the laws of nature by near-magic like mobile phones, penicillin and robots if you don't know the rules?
"How do you know?" "I don't. I just assumed." I like that guy. A lot of people could learn from him.
That's a dude who's really learned something from the world.
@@Diditallforthexp No, he just never questioned anything.
He has a Assumption style of learning
I think this is the best answer for this learning model.
I like his honesty XD
There are 3 Main Barriers to Study.
1) Too Steep a Gradient.
2) Lack of Mass.
(eg. Study motors from text without ever seeing a motor. )
But the most important is
3) Studying passed a Misunderstood Word/Symbol.
Each of these have their own psychological response including blankness or disinterest.
None of these are Chemical Imbalances nor require Drugging the Student.
Love this video! I am a teacher trainer and will definitely be using this in future workshops! Don't know if you're taking requests, but I would love to see a video about cognitive load and especially the way the redundancy effect works. In the same way that learning styles have persisted for so long, I still see so many PowerPoint presentations that have blocks of text that the presenter then reads aloud. I'm wondering if there are any cases when that is helpful and where the drive to do that comes from.
“Are you a visual learner?”
“Yeah”
“How do you know you’re a visual learner?”
“I don’t.”
My man
Love that kind of honesty
His brain “How do you know I know?”
He said: "I don´t, I just assumed" which is a perfectly fine answer.
I loved that reply. I would have doubled down suggesting I know that I'm a visual learner. I'm not as honest as that guy.
Your man.
It's about engagement, students learn better when their attention is maintained.. most people say they're visual learners because that's the easiest sense to actively engage in learning..
Especially without distraction.
Whatchu know about rolling down in the deep
Yep, entirely about engagement.
I totally agree, the worst teachers I've had, mostly didn't care and just went on to give the class and hoped we copied everything
@@Dhrakhan when your brain goes numb you can call that mental freeze
Veritasium - ' How do you know you are a visual learner'
The Legend - ' I don't, i just assume' 💀😂
Time stamp : 2:59
@@kunal5763Thank you! I kept missing it!
Remember it's just a skill - it will improve with practice. No matter how difficult it seems at the start, you will improve. I thought I'm a dum-dum at maths - turned out I was discouraged because it was..my first bad grade. We often get locked in patterns. Try to identify Yours. And never, ever give up. Keep going, even by little. You'll get there. Learning how to learn is extremely important too, but persistence is paramount in all endeavours.
Plot twist: Turns out *_everyone_* is a "What I pay attention to" learner...
Not really, concentration certainly is needed but NOONE can be concentrated at everything, thus there's a "preference" to classify/separate on what's important to what isn't, and usually one of the ways to "increase capacity" of what can be learned is writing things down
Or, at least that's how I did/do.. :)
So, distinction without a difference?
and the ones that learn the best across all subjects tend to be one's that employ learning techniques that are not actively taught by the teacher. This is why vocab is such a poor subject for many kids. not many people will just learn a list of words and definitions even when used in stories. meanwhile if you have multiple activities for each concept, when tested on the material you will see better results. Especially when activities engage more.
haha GOT'EM
I’m too poor to pay attention.
Other KRplusrs: “sponsored by skillshare”
Veritasium: “sponsored by Google”
Minute physics was also sponsored by google
He did it! He bloody did it!
yeah gonna check that weird sounding search engine out later
Yaa....funny google need to advertise itself even being omnipresent
That's a chad move
Hi, great video, I would still not say that the best way is to combine all styles in one lesson or subject (since the style doesn't exist), it all depends on the nature of the topic and how a human (not a specific person) absorbs/processes knowledge. We are learner by nature, we adapt to things we are used to or familiar with, we gain more experience and we be better at learning as we try uncharted territories/challenges (not things that we are used to). Thanks for the great video.
I think the best learning happens when there's a synthesis of learning styles. I really like taking notes town as the teacher writes and narrates them because i can write down the contents, listen to the content, and hear the content all at once. I think the structure of this type of note taking also helps because i like linear structure with points amd sub points rather than web graphic organizers.
Efficient note taking/idea maps + spaced repetition can make learning very interesting
The guy who recognized that he was making an assumption is my hero.
Self awareness is so underrated
Or you are making an assumption of him being a hero.
red pilled
yeah same I thought that was very self-aware of him
He eats mushrooms
"When we already believe the world to be a certain way, then we interpret new experiences to fit those beliefs."
This is known as "Confirmation Bias"
And it applies to so many fields
That's why indoctrination is always a bad idea.
A test that tests sequence memorisation says very little about the success of a learning style.
A statement that best describe the majority of research done in education
I do know I am a visual learner. If you show me how to do something or if a foreign language is spoken to me with/in context I get it so much faster, than when I read about it or is verbally explained to me. A few times I was able to just watch someone do something, without explanation and I was still able to get it. It makes logical sense because writing wasn't what we evolved from. We observe before we speak or write.
yeah same! this video doesn’t convince me. i am still definitely a visual learner
"Great!, The examples used effectively demonstrated the power of visual learning. The presenter's clear explanations and engaging delivery kept me hooked throughout. I appreciate the evidence-based approach and the practical tips shared for incorporating visual learning into education. This video is a must-watch for educators and learners alike - challenging conventional wisdom and shedding light on a crucial aspect of effective learning. Kudos to the creator for tackling this important topic with such depth and clarity!"
"I think one of the most common traps people fall into is only searching for infomation that confirms what they already beleive" wise words
Is that confirmation bias?
@@JD-ib4cr Yes and he has an interesting video about that topic also.
confirmation bias is definitely way too common and holds our society back.
Idk why but isn't what you quoted the same thing it's arguing about?
As I was reading this he said the exact same sentence bc I forgot to pause the video
In short, you only learn when you are interested in learning.
Which means one of the teacher's first goals has to be to get the students interested 🙂
Those were the teachers who impacted me the most - those who were bizarrely excited and nerdy about things like precalculus or Romantic literature or other stuff like that, so much that their enthusiasm spread to the students. If the teacher showed that the stuff could be interesting, it was interesting to me too.
That's how ADHD works
He did not say that
@@calliewright2946 this is 100000% right!!!!!!!!!!
@@brynnevans1025 or most adhd is a misdiagnosis
I think that instead of learning styles, each of the things that people call learning style, is just a different kind of way information is presented, and it is easiest to learn when you combine all of them (like watching a video and seeing pictures (visual) but also getting some commentary about it (audio) and reading about the same thing later and also seeing the same thing in some hands on experience would give you the most learning output)
"How do you know you're a visual learner?"
"I don't, I just assumed"
Wisest person they interviewed, next level self awareness and personal liberation.
"How do you know?"
"I don't know. I just assume."
I think I would get along with this guy.
the most real guy out of everyone interviewed
Sounds like a physicist to me!
He was the closest to the truth.
i am glad they didnt cut him out! he's so honest and I love it.
My science teacher always said that there is no learning style. As long as you make the topic engaging and interesting the students learn. And the only way to do that is by involving all the 4 senses you require. Eyes for visual, ears for audio, mouth for communication and hands for hands on.
Smell: what about me?
I'm a taste learner. I have to taste the topics related objects to understand yhem
I guess taste testers are a myth then 😂
Bonus points comedy
Taste is bad in science take a bite of mercury or sulpheric acid, or asbestos and see how long you will live, or swallow a pice of plutonium.
I saw this a long time ago, and I loved it so much that I've come back to watch it again. One little thing that interests me is whether it is harder to block out visual stimuli. That seems to be one of the earliest forms of stimuli that the human brain allows us to categorise. We have sound statistics at a young age, but not meaningful words. We can't walk or move in the same way until we're much older. Smells and tastes need to be identified and dealt with even more slowly. I say this because in my experience as a language teacher, I recall (perhaps incorrectly) that most people's pronounication got worse when they were initially presented with the words in writing (in English). It's hard to tell people that they can't have that, so often it's better to write the words out according to other words they already know or - if possible - according to the phonetics of their own language.
Don't you find that phonetic spelling and mapping pronunciation from one language to the other hampers people trying to sound close to native speakers? I know a lot of people with advanced vocabulary and a very distinct nonstandard pronunciation because they read English as though it was Polish - so both with little care for intonation and accent, and using incorrect phonemes where Polish has no 1-to-1 equivalent (Polish doesn't have ə, ð or θ and replacing them with ɛ, d or f leads to a somewhat quirky accent). Personally I found getting presented with words in both writing and speech at the same time most useful - primarily watching subtitled movies (which also give a breadth of emotional contexts and can teach more nuanced speech rather than flat BBC presenter style found in most listening exercises).
I think it has to do with storing information in memory. When a baby learns their first language, they create their own "IPA" in their memory, which only has the sounds they've encountered so far. When learning a second language, your brain has to get enough exposure to a new sound to create an additional IPA symbol for it. E.g., as a non-native English speaker who learned English primarily by reading, I didn't even realize that "a" in "Amy" and "Albert" were different sounds until someone pointed it out. And then what about "law" or "August"? In my first-language mental IPA, there is only one "a" bucket, and all four of the words sound similar enough to me to be put in that bucket. It takes a lot of exposure targeting the comparison of these sounds specifically for me to start noticing the difference. E.g., I've lived in an English-speaking country for over ten years, but I'm still not sure if "law" and "August" have the same sound, even though I've heard these words many times, of course.
This makes sense of rote learning (memorizing seemingly unrelated data, think learning a new, very different language from your own) but maybe less for meaningful learning (learning that requires making connections to concepts and patterns, think learning linguistics). I think that's where there is a greater deviance in which VARK method works for students. For rote learning, you're relying more on memory whereas with meaningful learning you're relying more on analytical and critical skills. Focus also plays a large role, but even more so for meaningful learning where losing your focus can prevent from making meaningful connections to the content. I think the best rule of thumb is 1) a focus on diversifying the teaching profiles of educators and 2) doing our best to make tailored learning biographies of students for their records for future educator reference. Really, VARK isn't a myth so much as an incomplete idea of how we can best cater learning for students.
This is the best as I understand teaching/education as an Education & Public Policy undergrad. I still have a lot to learn, but I have a lot of passion for making our education systems as conducive to diverse learning populations as possible.
“What kind of learner are you?”
“I don’t”
BRUH
XD
chad
..constant and autodidactic (with the help of KRplus and Google)
@Naughty Spicy Editz i agree
I tried learning to code for ages. It wasn't until I had a reason to actually code something I was interested in that it clicked. I believe that's the key. Find a reason, find a passion, learn and put into practice.
From experience, I agree. I started a math major in college and had amazing results. I always took things I learned and tried to tackle impossible problems in mathematics with those. It still helps me today now that I've switched to a bachelor's in computer science and am now learning to code.
You also be nimble, be creative, and spark connections in your brain. Manipulate the new information to suit any new curiosities and do it often.
There's no substitute for passion!
I personally also program, and I don't honestly have a reason, I just do it as a hobby, well a hobby that I spend every second on but still a hobby.
Absolutely true, this.
Some of the Brain Game series really
displayed thought patterns and cognizant bias a very interesting way.
Switching gears while learning also helps because of what you have already learned and the ability to
integrate the new information.
Sometimes writing lines does help.
Great video. I have always been so sceptical of this being rolled out into organisations. I feel like ‘learning styles’ being involved in learning and development within an organisation is a means of people in associated roles, justifying their positions.
I find that the best learning style is the desire to learn. Often when introducing a new topic or subject, teachers need to draw that desire out, and then the student will be motivated to learn. One of the biggest questions I often hear in class as a student is "why do we need to learn this?" If the teacher cannot answer that in a satisfying way, the student will be less likely to retain what they learn.
This is amplified in ADHD students. Studies have found that ADHD students are under represented in engineering, but run circles around "normal" students in engineering when they are taught with a stronger emphasis on intuition based learning and applying the learning in a gratifying way. People with ADHD are incapable of staying focused if they do not see relevance in what they are learning. IMO, there are a lot more people with undiagnosed ADHD than realized. I don't even think its a disorder, just a different type of cognition. The systems in place simply don't facilitate this learning style because they just want to have students memorize cookie cutter problems for exams and get them pushed through as quickly as possible.
Autistic until proven otherwise here. This is so true. If someone doesn't want to learn, or doesn't see the value in what they're learning, they simply won't, because they don't care. My preferred learning style is games. Probably so is everyone's. If you make a game out of it, kids will remember things better. Teachers be like, "why can y'all memorize these rap songs but not the periodic table of the elements?" Because it's not fun and they don't care. They don't see the value in learning the periodic table of the elements beyond not wanting to get in trouble with their parents. For me, learning itself was fun. The process of learning was fun. No other kid I knew felt this way. If kids aren't engaged, you gotta find a way to appeal to them, and make it fun.
I love that both the replies are about autism and adhd, since I was about to go on a rant about the same thing lol. I’ve always thought my learning style was “doing” or I guess kinetic, but that’s really because when I’m doing something I’m actively engaged and I *want* to be. Chemistry for me this past year was fun and interesting because it was new and exciting, algebra 2 was the worst math class I’ve ever taken because it wasn’t… but trig at the end of the year was fun. The best way to get students to retain information is to get them engaged and having fun, instead of stressing the crap out of them and using traditional methods that are way outdated.
I wish that was all you needed is the desire to learn but even if you have the desire it's not quite THAT simple not quite... the best thing you could have is to know yourself well, to reflect on how you think and why you understand things in a certain way and how to work with that rather than trying to resist it or believing it must be wrong and nothing will work trying cos throughout my life one thing i've always latched onto is that everything needs you to reflect on it and think about it... think about the way your thinking about it and doing lol.
But people are taught that's wrong to do when it's not.... just so teachers can get us to fill in the work sheets to reach their "work targets" which is super selfish and wrong... and The Education System is just designed to let people do anything BUT do things and think about things in the way they uniquely do it, they constantly find ways to dance around things but it's sad this is the only way they can be creative is in the way they lie and stop people from doing what they need to for themselves.
The unfortunate truth is nobody will quite understand us individually either and so it's a human burden we must live with and that's why it's important we learn as much about ourselves and see the patterns in the way we think and do things as much as possible, cos nobody knows ourselves more than we do ourselves and we have to ignore the fact other people aren't gonna get some things and preventing you from being yourself is wrong. Then most importantly you have to have an interest in it and like doing and if you don't? ha.... good luck people trying to force us to learn it.
@@jenius9164 I would like to "softly" dispute this. I'm ADHD and college was hell for me. However, I love to learn. I think learning new things is one of the most satisfying aspects of being alive. The problem for me was learning in SCHOOL. Being forced to learn was no longer learning to me. It was a chore. And I hate chores. Often times, I would be interested in a subject, but would not get a good final grade. I think learning in school is a completely different thing from learning in general.
Being sponsored by Google Search is one of the biggest flexes ive ever seen
Seems like the duck is trying to overtake Google lol
It's a good thing that Google sponsored this video, because otherwise I never would've known that Google existed.
Actually why would google sponsor a video when nobody doesn’t use google
Just remember scientists are just as easy to buy as politicians.
@@taylorleeforcongress8470 well said! 💯
I've noticed that for me it depends on what I'm learning. For instance with science or math based subjects I seem to retain and analyze more information by visualizing and history or origin based subjects, I seem to retain and analyze information by reading. Here's the thing, most of my learning I've done alone, meaning self-taught. The advantage of being self-taught is I learn at a pace that suits me and I can readily change up the way I'm digesting information. The disadvantage is I have a tendency to not invest too much time and effort in subjects I care little or not at all. Informative video.
There is one element to this that was not addressed: as a teacher, it does not really matter if the RCT said VARK doesn't work, once your student already believes that it does. The placebo effect is strong and it affects other important aspects of learning like comfort and motivation. So it often pays off to go along with peoples preferences to an extent. It is good to know that it doesn't hold any water though, so you can focus on more important things about the classroom rather than trying to inventory everyone's own thing.
I kinda get what you're saying, but I don't think lying or pretending that something exists and matters is a healthy way to maintain interest from your students. Especially when it could be harmful to make your students think they're bad at learning in a certain way when they are not.
Being taught electronics without diagrams sounds horrendous. That’s like hearing math. Just doesn’t work.
Or math in text. It's super hard to understand in text.
The more I think about these learning styles the more I realise that it is a combination of all three that helps me and it depends largely on the subject. Reading an entire book about a dry subject would be boring to me without visuals - so I would probably prefer watching a documentary or looking at pictures. But I would rather read a manual than watch a 30 minute KRplus video on how to do something because I can skip the things I already know in a manual or speed read - especially if its a hands on task like cooking and I already know the basics and how certain ingredients behave under certain conditions so I don't need anyone to show me from scratch. Equally, some subjects require me to throw in auditory aids - I am not that good at Maths and just seeing a formula doesn't help me if I can't discuss it with another person and have them talk me through the logic. And sometimes I actually need to do something myself rather than learn the theory of a subject as only the theory will likely go over my head unless I can touch it and feel it and walk myself through the process. Unfortunately the education system often has one or more elements missing (eg University and school is largely textbook based and you are not really exposed to a real working environment, online courses you don't have anyone to talk the subject through with, learning by doing is ok if you work in a lower skilled job but if a company only employs people and trains them on the job sometimes theoretical training is missing which could fill in the gaps). (P.S.: I have ADHD and you have to keep me entertained if you want me to learn anything...lol). So I believe some learning styles are better if you already have basic knowledge and some are better if you start completely from scratch but overall it's a combination of all three.
The thing he is getting at is this: the 'best' learning approach is dictated by the MATERIAL, not by some presumed personal style. You are certainly correct, for electronic circuits, that subject begs for diagrams - but for example, in teaching about rhetoric or speech-craft, you would not want to just read the words from a speech from MLK, the best learning approach would be to listen to his voice. (thinking further on this MLK idea, you might think a visual movie of him giving a speech might add still more.... but probably not, that could actually take away from your learning goal which might be to understand the power of spoken language - so the best learning approach might be to close your eyes and just listen). Let the nature of the materials dictate the best style. And for sure, several styles/methods together will probably be even better. But for example do NOT put lots of text on a PPT slide when you are going to say the same words. That overloads the working memory, with its two channels of input, auditory and visual - instead utilize one channel, auditory, with all your narration words, and utilize the visual channel with either just a few keywords (almost more as illustrations than as text) or better have a visual representation (Illustration, animation, picture) of what the narration is all about. That way you respect the working memory and get maximal complimentary learning approach benefits.
This is addressed in the video. For various domains, it makes sense to incorporate media appropriate for the domain. If learning geography, it helps to visualize with maps. This is not inconsistent at all with the overall premise in general.
That's how I do equations
Kudos to the person who learns geography better in an auditory fashion than with a map.
Damn this cracked me up hard
i guess they gotta memorize the coordinates of every location
Well, for memorizing country names auditory certainly works better. For memorizing country _locations_ you'd have to look at a map.
You know geography is not just pinpointing a country or a capital on a map right ? Kudos to you if you can understand the concept of globalization or gentrification with just a map rather than an auditory explanation.
@@drmaggot1173 You do understand what a joke is right?
This video was very well done and very thoughtful!! Thank you for taking the time to make this digestible!!
My personal thoughts about this learning topic is that of course there are effective learning methods out there, but i think some topics fit more into a learning style than others.
Exemple:
If you are learning any system of the human body in Sciences, a Kinesthetic learning style should be better.
But if you are learning something like equations or nuclear fusion a visual or auditory learning style would be more effective.
My students' learning style is "Is it graded?"
If tests had FAQ's like company websites, that would be the 1st question asked
@@kanemartin2249 The next FAQ would be, "When will we ever use this in real life?"
@@casadelosperrosstudio200 you wont. aside from a bit of math, and some english. hooray for our edumacation system.
I have a question. Would the variety of learning style affect your ability?
@AUSSIE idk I, just taking his word here.
The guy who says "I dont , just assume" is was ahead of the curve here
and you is are ahead of the keyboard here
@@aka0989 😂😂😂
Bro, you is was good at grammar! 👍
@@FullByType is are*
@@aliamar8344 but if is was be who then what was is isn't?
When the video started I started wondering what my style was and quickly realised that it depends on the subject and that I usually prefer a mix. I'm glad the video came to the same conclusion xD
I do believe that as individuals we all learn slightly differently and each have our strenghts and weaknesses and that teachers should attempt to connect with and adjust for those. I just don't think labeling students in one of 4 categories does the trick.
It also shouldn't be more taxing to teachers as I believe making sure you're reaching each student is the basis of being a good teacher in the first place.
So perhaps instead of trying to teach every subject in a visual way to students that feel they are strong visual learners, we should use that information to expose them to more visual orientated subjects to test their appeal on the student. To explore the interest.
Then when subjects need to be taught that benefit more from other modes of information (like the obvious auditory component in learning music) you don't then try to teach it to them only in a visual way, but instead use that information to make sure to have a multi modal approach that is still reaching them.
A relatively minor tweak, as teachers should already be keeping an eye out for that. So perhaps that's closer to the spirit of the magic touch that was initially stumbled upon.
This is a very useful video that sums up the misconception very nicely. I'll definitely keep this handy.
I’m an ignominious learner. I only seem to learn if crushing emotional humiliation and pain is involved.
I feel this in my bones.
Ooof same
@@DyslexicMitochondria hey bro I watch your videos. Love your channel
There's a subculture for that.
There is a saying I am fond of. If it didn't hurt - you didn't learn anything. While not true in all scenarios I definitely see a LOT of people who aren't learning simply because their actions did not yield a suitable pain response.
id say whether im interested in the topic or not matters more than how its presented to me
Damn never thought i'd see you here
hi user
I agree with you that interest is very important, but I disagree that will lead to learning by itself. You can be deeply interested in a subject, but if no one presents that information to you, or at least in a intelligible way, then you will never understand no matter how much you want to know. This is excluding experimenting things and discovering it yourself. Having an interest is important nonetheless. If your teacher is presenting the material poorly, your innate interest will lead to you seeking out that information elsewhere. But that other source of information still need to present it in a understandable way. If you aren't interested, that won't happen. Interest just means you are more willing to find alternative forms of presentation.
I disagree. I think that if you find a good enough presenter, they would find ways to hook you in, no matter the topic
A good presentation will make you feel interested - that's what a good presentation is. That's why channels like Veritasium and Vsauce are so popular
An elementary teacher had us all take identical spelling tests at the beggining and end of a week and use different methods of study each week to see which style helped us improve the most. I improved most on the week I cheated and didn't study at all.
Funily enough this pattern mostly held true for the remainder of my school career, I think learning about multiple subjects from multiple sources in the short windows of time before tests was just way too much for my brain.
So you cheated for the remainder of your school career?
@@josephpostma1787 I didnt mea cheat as in copy someone else 🤣 I meant cheating on the assignment by saying I studied in particular ways when I didn't study at all then taking the test without even remembering what the words were. The only "studying" I'd done was glancing over my results from the first test when it was handed back
Mom, a life long educator, and I were discussing this today. I definitely preferred in classroom settings. And feel like children today have missed two years of education due to the pandemic. I feel I like there is no substitute for being in a class where you get taught by a teacher who allows questions, I guess what you could call an interactive learning style.
Best teachers are those who engage and excite students about the material and use multi-media presentation without boring people or overloading or underloading them.
A rare species those teachers are
I interviewed a lot of very good teachers - almost all were good storytellers and used humour in their teaching. It didn’t matter how they lectured (or didn’t lecture). It seems in a non scientific perspective that what mattered is their in classroom charisma.
Robin and B X both say it well. I call it cranking the fun machine. Charisma and humor both depend on correct loading, which avoids both boredom and overwhelm, only possible when the teacher is tuned in to the feedback, which comes in all forms. And you have to engage to get any feedback at all. Hilarity is a dependable feature of a good dynamic. Hook them. Lead them to surprise and delight. Rinse. Repeat.
so u want a clown not a teacher
... And this is where almost all my teachers sucked at
I never thought of learning styles during my education. What I did notice: I always did better when teachers where passionate about the subject and in turn made the classes more interesting. It didn't even matter how easy or strict, how likeable or dislikeable the teacher was. It just worked for me and had a drastic effect on my grades.
Same with me! Their passion was contagious and I would find myself having the same type of motivation as them to learn/do the work
Agree with you. If the presentation is interesting, then I was ready to accept any style. I think the successful learning is more about skillful communication between the teacher and the students rather than learning styles.
I thought your last name was Veritasium XD
This right here should be thought about so much more. The two classes I’ve taken thus far in college that I really enjoyed and felt like I learned a lot from were the two taught by teachers who were well incorporated into the subject and loved their work.
100% agreed seeing another person be so unabashedly passionate about a subject is magnetic to me and instantly makes me many more time interested and focused on what they have to say.
I learn through “procrastination”
Usually I'm a lazy person
I'm currently working on a research paper questioning the use of learning styles within curriculum of teacher training which perpetuates the use of learning styles and the meshing hypothesis within society.
The guy with the most potential in this video said just five words. "I don't, I just assumed."
I consider myself at least kind of intelligent and yet I fall into this trap where the question "How do you know that you're a visible learner?" already implies that I know it and therefore this piece of information is not to be questioned.
Legit
@@takkiemon Yup true. Mind games.
Yeah, in passing, it seems like the most uninformed response, but it was actually the most honest and accurate response.
Next step, he must assume that there are more possibilities...the trick comes, with PROVING any of those alternate view-points.
I dare say that, the so-called 'learning styles' reveal less about how people learn, and more about what medium tends to spark their curiosity. Some like to read, others prefer narrated video. Both mediums can provide equal amounts of learning but, depending on the individual, one will be more engaging than the other. Perhaps 'Learning Styles' should instead be called 'Preferred Medium of Engagement".
Great comment
I’ve heard learning styles now referred to as learning preferences. The difference being that preferences change in different contexts and over time vs. something you’re born with that doesn’t change.
@@scottclare7502 exactly it's not one way someone who's watching a video to learn will change to reading it depends of the context as you said
This video completely confuses the medium and the learning style. See my comment below.
Yeah this is what I thought during the video. I reflected on my own experience and realised I don't particularly learn better using any one method, but I know doing things and watching videos engages me more than just simply reading or listening.
"So how do you know you're a visual learner?'
"I don't, I just assume."
ICONINC, LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
I've notice that practice helps me.
Each time i need to learn something I'm starting from some project which can be solved by implementing things I need to learn.
In this case I'm super motivated, easy memories and I need to understand to fulfil the goal.
The most frustrating part of all of this for me, as a teacher, is knowing that learning styles were already debunked years before I did my teacher training, getting indoctrinated into this system, and now, fifteen years later, still having learning styles show up regularly in my professional development courses, staff meetings, and job interviews. The entire field of education is notorious for quickly jumping on the bandwagon for every new idea about how to teach better but taking generations to be willing to admit when those ideas have turned out not to be correct.
The American School System Is Trash And It Will Continue To Be So Until Someone Does Something Drastic That Will Either Overthrow The Current System Or Force It To Become Better.
If you only teach a single way, you're the problem. At least the learning styles encourage teachers to use multiple methods of explaining the same things.
@@tgamer1510 It is a rather large leap to go from an ideological disagreement with a debunked dogma to the assumption that one who disagrees with the theory of learning styles must therefore only teach in one way. I typically teach any given concept in two ways, and try to vary which ways I use from concept to concept. But the principle behind a learning-styles approach is the idea that each student should be taught each concept according to their own learning style, not multiple learning styles. In some applications of this principle (including most of the studies purporting to support this theory), students are separated into cohorts with shared learning styles, and then exclusively taught according to that learning style. In that format, learning styles do not, as you put it, encourage teachers to use multiple methods of explaining the same things, they encourage a lack of variety in teaching methods -- they encourage teachers to always use the same one method, which not only does not turn out to improve student learning despite supposedly respecting each student's learning style, it also eliminates the well-known benefits of teaching a single concept in multiple ways (a principle with which I think we both agree). Conversely, if the students are not grouped according to learning styles cohorts (as I think is probably the more common case), then the doctrine implies that each concept should be taught not only according to more than one style, but that each concept should be taught numerous times, according to each of however many learning styles one happens to accept as meaningful (one of the principal problems that must be determined before any attempt to apply the doctrine). And while I agree that each new re-explanation according to another learning style would improve learning, each new mode also comes with diminishing returns, and we need to take account of the amount of classroom time that is available to teach any given concept when we really need to be moving on to the next concept. There are an enormous number of ideas floating around about how to improve student learning, each of which takes time. Or, as a compromise, we can try to engage all of the learning modalities in a single explanation; from an ideological perspective, this is liable to be a poor compromise, since it may not allow any of the students to fully engage with the topic according to their own learning styles -- not that this matters, of course, since the learning styles are a myth anyway -- but from a practical perspective, this also requires considerably more time, some of which occurs in class and would therefore slow down class progress, but a great of additional time is also required to plan lessons of this kind. And whatever expectations we might have about the amount of time teachers should spend planning their lessons, we are forced to acknowledge that there are ultimate limits dictated by the number of hours in a day. I would rather use what limited time I have available for each concept using methodologies that bring greater returns. In no other field that I know of is it a virtue to continue blindly adhering to debunked hypotheses.
@@MusiMasterJam I didn't bother reading your entire reply because I noted that you said I made an assumption when in fact I didn't. I merely said "If you only teach a single way, you're the problem" I never said you did this, nor does my statement imply that's what I was trying to say. I mean it's not really debunked, until you do any testing on a larger or at least better scale. A few hundred similarly educated people in the trial here cannot accurately represent entire populations.
@@tgamer1510 Point taken. Though I would note that the literature debunking learning styles is extensive. Willingham, D., E. Hughes, and D. Dobolyi (2015), "The Scientific Status of Learning Styles Theories", Teaching of Psychology, Vol. 42(3), 266-71 cites nearly a dozen reviews of the literature spanning from as early as the late 1970s to as recently as the mid 2010s demonstrating the failure to support the theory (see especially p. 267). The conclusion that learning styles are now debunked rests by no means on a small body of evidence.
Google: Derek, take this money
Derek: do you mean you're sponsoring my video?
Google: yeah, sure, talk about the search engine or something
it's to distract attention from how ad polluted the search results became
DuckDuckGo is superior anyways.
@@TheNethIafin And the doctored search results and censorship
It's a good thing that Google Search sponsored this video, because otherwise I never would've known that Google existed or that it was associated with some sort of search engine.
@@marknefedov I liked Brave until I read about their homophobic anti-vaccine CEO. Granted the CEO represents the company, but not every employee within that company. Brave is a good browser though.
I’ve always felt like I could learn different things in different “learning styles” and that learning information through multiple learning styles was very helpful. And as a teacher and even as a student, *controversial opinion here*, it has seemed like some people (definitely not all) have liked the idea of different learning styles because it gives them a simple, easy reason that is no fault of their own as to why they haven’t learned something or didn’t do well on something, saying it wasn’t taught in their learning style, which is what he is saying simply isn’t backed by any research. Learning styles are simply preferences, valid ones for sure, but not indicators of whether someone can’t learn in a certain “style.” I appreciate this point being made in this video.
As a (retired) research engineer , 87 yr old. iearned whatever knowledge have by studying text books.
Not any textbook but a text that has examples with calculation of results.
I admit to sometimes reading and rereading the material many times .
I learned, as an educator, that information needs to be presented multi-modally in order for a lesson to be effective for any one person. Not because there are actually learning styles, but because we need to process information in more than one way to retain it.
Exactly
Agreed! I bought into "learning styles" for years until I was taught about multi-modal teaching in my Elementary education program in college.
Absolutely, agreed. I always find it that explaining a new learned topic to another person helps me so much with retaining the knowledge.
Wow, must be great doing your work 3 times, for the same salary. Dearly, a college scholar.
I always figured people learn more if you say it- and write it on the white board- and draw a diagram or mime it out- because the more you repeat it the more its retained- I always thought the learning style thing sounded bogus.