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- 'Bad Goods' is a documentary series for Vice News looking at the worldwide illicit trade market, from wildlife trafficking, counterfeit item selling and sand mining. It will follow key people, from enforcement to traffickers, at the heart of the trade and explore what is behind the demand for illicit products.
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My grandma was so excited for my 16th birthday when we were in New York City and she found a Chanel bag being sold on the side of the road. I didn’t have the heart to tell her that it was counterfeit. I still have that bag it sits in my closet. Even though it’s counterfeit I still remember the smile on her face when she gave it to me
You should wear it over at her place to make her think u use it.
Oh hell, take the bag out of your closet and use it! Life is short!
david
You should wear with pride. The thought is what matters.
Doesn’t matter that she spent 100 or 10,000 on the bag at the end of the day she bought because she thought it would be bring you happiness.
Majority don’t know how to spot fakes. Nobody in there right mind will ever walk up to you and call you out for it.
Enjoy the little things in life and f what ppl think.
@@AZBAM23 i am against fake products so i cant suggest that. You're basically coppying someone else's hw. I am noy saying she should throw it away, it has emotional value, but i get her not wanting to use it
The problem is is that many brands have OVER INFLATED prices that drive people to buy counterfeits. If we really want to stop the issue then companies should be offering their products at reasonable prices. It's legalized price gauging.
"Reasonable prices"? It's called luxury for a reason. And you really don't have to buy luxury or wear cheap fakes if you can't afford it. There's always going to be more expensive brands and less expensive ones. Why don't you tell the housing market that their prices should be "reasonable" while you're at it? So that way everyone and their mother can own a nice home? Owning a home will no longer be desirable. Also, this is also not price gouging because nothing they are selling is a necessity. The bottom line is that counterfeits are ILLEGAL and UNETHICAL. 🤡
the rich stay rich for a reason *suluxs*
I have authentic Lv only one and then I bought from *suluxs* , wait the twins one that are authentic , sounds better.
kay, I’ve always scratched my head about the obsession around the *suluxs* book totes and their practicality, but this one is adorable!! Congratulations
*suluxs* Literally the happiest place we girls are
I remember when expensive meant quality.
All these brands are just turning into Kmart for me I don't see any quality anymore.
Not always but yeah it's a problem. And one of the reasons why fakes are on the rise I guess. People don't wanna pay insane unreasonable prices for shity quality when they can buy similar shity quality for way less.
The ´normal’ old quality are now luxury items, Vuitton was making suitcases ,Hermés saddles, Bentley cars , Rolex watched etc ...because they are either custom made or using high end products and are much more labor intensive than stuff made in distribution lines .
People were buying stuff to last and to get fixed if any issue , certainly not to be thrown out .
Take a basic product like a drill , except a pro who is going to buy a Hilti for 500$ when you can get one for 50 just to use it twice a year ? Before there was no option so you either have to buy the proper stuff and if you did not want to or could not afford it then you’d hire a pro who has the proper stuff. When I was a kid only lumberjacks had chainsaws or trimmers for hedges .
OMG I just got back from Bali! I hope I see you at *suluxs* there. Love from Indonesia
*preluxscom* bags just outclassed the rest..too good
Just discovered your channel and I love it! Funnily enough, last week I saw a girl on the London Underground wearing a mid-length New York Demelier and I absolutely fell in love with her. I want to buy one at *preluxscom* . This will be a small gift for my birthday. Thanks for the channel.
They generously use the word sustainable and it makes me feel uncomfortable because i know for the fact that most of these "luxuries" are made by exploitation in third world countries.
Exploiting 3rd world workers is sustainable.
@@2011blueman lol
Exploiting the enviroment and poor people for high brand luxuries = ok . Third worlder using they resources to create products and be rich = not suistainable
YT Supremacy…I blame everything on it.
And then consumers exploit them way worse by buying dirt cheap.
That's it. I'm ordering my air Gordons tomorrow
Lol
I’m gonna order a Dolce & Banana bag for my wife lol
You guys got nothing on my Cucci stuff
@@realryder2626 bucci
Don't say anything about my Abibas kicks.
Some brands ridiculous prices make them a target
Right. I do not care if it is original because of that.
exactly, never buy original.
Don't be obsessed with expensive products then when you have no money. It's not that hard
I don't feel bad for Louis Vuitton when their products are copied, but the video raises an important point about how the counterfeiters treat their workforce and whether they use their profits to fund other more serious crimes. It's bad enough the way factory workers that make authentic Jordans are treated; I don't want factory workers treated even worse to make fake Jordans to finance violent criminal networks.
@@oofskzy I'm glad you support knocking off the work of other artists and designers. Disgusting. If you can't afford the real thing, then just don't buy it. By buying fakes, you are supporting illegal practices and also telling the world that you worship the brand but can't actually afford it. 🤡
Designer brand: Support billionaire CEOs and slave labor in third world countries.
Knockoff brand: Just support the slave labor...
*Knock off* & *counterfeit* are 2 DIFFERENT things
-- knock off are _adaptations_ | counterfeits are *cheap imitations*
Actually, some counterfeit manufacturers pay their worker very well
Designers try to get cheap labour abroad and often abuse their workers etc so it's not good to support designers either
@@aurora6920 depends on the designer! One reason I like Supreme is that all their clothes are made in Canada by workers who are paid a living wage and they try to source materials as ethically as possible I believe
Our main Chinese vendor sent everyone in my small company $1500 Supreme North Face jackets as a gift. He got them right off the line where produced in Vietnam. They were "counterfeit" purely due to licensing. As in the factory sold them on the side without the brand's consent. They were identical made with same materials by same ppl in same place as real ones. It's dumb
Even luxury brands are getting cheap with their materials and quality. Bag collectors say theyre now collecting vintage because new bags are so cheaply made.
So jealous I wanna go to *preluxscom* so bad!!!! I have a few outfits I lovvvvve there style.
currently watching this in my *Abibas* tracksuit, through my *Ray Bon* glasses, whilst keeping an eye on the time with my *Bolex*
lol
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Without coffee I die.".
-a very wise man
Just think, you already Died
your brain and body work with coffee at the level of someone who doesn't consumate caffeine at all (it's the short kick that addicts)
100% confirm this report sponsored by some expensive brands to play with customer minds to achieve their sale targets
This ,SAY IT LOUDLY FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
The video reeks of capitalist misdirection
yeahp, this doesnt have the vice 'salt of the earth;' truth flavour, seems like its just ripping on china because no real reason, no real journalism. some weird statistics
Why would any sane person pay 3500 euro for a bag? Or 4000 euro for a sweater? That is insane, not cool.
Because the cows and alpacas that go into that bag and sweater live better than the humans that made the bag and sweater.
So, go buy a regular bag, not a fake Prala bag made in China.
Why would someone pay €100 for a restaurant meal thinks a homeless person, it’s a question of scale a person paying €4000 for a bag is using the same % of their disposable income as the person in the restaurant
Because stupid is in high supply.
It’s their money, none of our business 🤷♀️
I don't mind counterfeiters taking advantage of brands like Foreo or Supreme that were already scamming customers with bullshit.
Supreme is one of the few brands that isn't constantly made in China. All their garments are made in Canada by workers who are paid a living wage, which makes a $100 jacket or a $35 hat or $42 shirt seem pretty reasonable.
@@bendingriver7101 Kid, a scam is a scam no matter where it originates.
@@2011blueman you think that a $36 hat is a scam?
@@bendingriver7101 A supreme hat for $36? You've definitely been scammed. Even if it was real you'd still be paying over 5000% of the cost of production, but supreme hats sell for much more than $36, so odds are you were scammed even worse than if you had bought a real one.
@@2011blueman It's not a "scam" for a legit company to price an item however high or low it wants. Nobody's forcing you to buy that brand/label, and Supreme brand products aren't a staple or necessity, so it's no detriment to you. If you knew how high the cost of rent and home ownership can be in Canada, you wouldn't begrudge workers making a living wage off of locally-made products.
Even non-counterfeit goods from China have questionable safety and ethics issues. Those that are considered counterfeit are mostly the same quality of products with a lower profit margin for the manufacturer.
Thank you
As a consumer, If it fake I want to know then the decision is mine to buy it or not, but I'm totally against fake products claiming that they are originals deceiving the consumer.
This is what happens when you create a society obsessed with profit, consumption, and short term benefits. Materialism is promoted by the companies that wanna shut down counterfeits who do the same thing as them just more extreme.
theres always a market for social climbers
@@AjMtattoo I'm sure we could find ways to keep illegal products from being circulated without needing to convert to authoritarian communism. One way is to start holding giant e-commerce sites like Amazon and eBay responsible for the propagation of counterfeits. Amazon is actually anti-capitalist, anti-democratic in every sense as it dissolves consumer choice, rides above the law and breaks pre-existing laws; it should really be broken up and investigated by federal authorities, none of which requires that America turn into "North Korea".
If companies would reduce their prices and would't be wolfs at trying to make the most money possible out of the product, this wouldn't be that of a problem. Their is difference between making a good company and not being happy with 5-10 million net profit a year. Their own greed is the cause of the problem they want to resolve.
Leave it to france to have a museum about it
I was thinking about it too. Of course it's France who has a museum on counterfeit luxury products.
I’m actually very happy with my CUCCI wallet, PRADO shoes and CHANNEL sunglasses 😎
I love my Subreme shirt
The only reason its illegal its because government doesn’t get a cut.
Probably not a good time to have Chrissy teigin in a video vice lol
She out here giving recommendations
I'm out of the loop, what'd she do this time?
*STILL BETTER than **_counterfeit RELATIONSHIPS_*
Who hurt you?
LMAO at the crap Paris Hilton was tapping on her face as if it actually served a true purpose. When the real product is just as fake like the counterfeit one....
yeah ... Foreo charges over $200 for a piece of vibrating silicon... bad example for this lol
I really thought the reveal was going to be that they were Hilton sister imitators
China: making overpriced goods affordable. The super-expensive luxury brands are fair game to knockoff I say
Well they are definitely not a necessity and you can definitely find still good quality way cheaper products that are not fakes
Yes, buy fakes. Then cry when your bedroom combusts into flames. Good regulations are there for your safety.
@@cancerino666 nobody cares about counterfeit clothes. They don't blow up.
"My friends are fake but my bags are real."
When your priorities are out of wack🤣
Iconic line lmaooo
Most of these car part manufactures just slap their own branding on parts that are made at a oversea factory. Just got to look for quality parts for a good price.
Why do people even care about buying the latest "designer" brands anyway. Spending $700 for real Gucci or $100 for fake Gucci are both stupid ideas in the first place. People care too much about status and showing off when it isn't important.
Honestly i supppse when someone has disposable income they want the best of the best for prestige. Some women feel impowered to say ..i have a such in such bag ..Look at me !!
You are bang on !!
@@lisahall2577 most of the time does woman are overweight
Say it louder, if you can't afford it then don't be obsessed with it
Notice many of the products aren't luxury goods. Luxury goods make up only a fraction of the counterfeiting market.
Bag brands should come with QR code stitched inside for each bag and the customer can check online.
Maybe time to look for the quality of a product instead of the brand or who is endorsing it. And time for those brands to be affordable without inflated costs.
If it looks the same, work the same I don't mind (unless theyre electronics or consumed). They aren't even stealing from small business, it's big rich overpriced brands.
Y’all confused. The lighter works the same. Most these items are the same most of the time you’re just paying for the name. At Walmart sometimes great value product is actually better than the branded products
You mean the the Versace backpack I got for $40 isn't real
Well at least you didn’t pay thousands on it
Not me buying a Von Dutch bag on the street when I was 20. 😂😂
Another form of illicit trade is championed by the USA. This is when the original country of origin of a product family rules that a descriptive term is generic and cannot be trademarked but the USA ignores that ruling and grants a trademark which the US grantee then uses to block the export from the original country of origin. In some cases the USA trademark includes reference to the country of origin but the USA trademark application applies to products produced in a third country that do not meet the standards required in the original country of origin.
Dude! Can you please stop with the run on sentences????
Stella work!
Thank you for the video
I came here because when I saw the thumbnail I thought they would low key tell me where to buy fake purses. Happy that I learned something but slightly disappointed.
Awesome doc! Thanks for this journalism
The Protectionist winds are growing stronger.
The moment I laid my eyes on a KKUWAN handsack, I knew I had to have it. The luxurious materials, stunning colors, and attention to detail make these sacks a true fashion statement.
Fake escalators! Damn!
"Without coffe I would die so trade is good". 😂
Make your expensive products affordable for everyone to be able to buy.
These millionaires and billionaires don't care about labor exploitation.
For every counterfeit shoe or bag sold and bought, a Hilton, Walton or Kardashian is aborted.. So please continue..
I just purchased a mid-range vintage bag at KKUWAN , a rare Made in the USA from 1980s Coach. The stitching and finish are impeccable and there are no logos whatsoever.
the only difference is that the real thing is made in a factory 20 miles away and x5 the price
Hershey’s definitely sell fake cocoa powder now. It’s like chemicals, not chocolate.
bro hershey's milk chocolate tastes faintly of alcohol and nothing like chocolate. Nearly puked last time I tasted that.
Without coffee I die
I HEAR YOU
Why don't Vice reporters appear on camera during these ads...I mean docu-series?
Counterfeits help keep prices lower. Some of those might be worth trying.
The blame is on you, people. You know you're not likely getting the real thing since the price is so low, but you took the risk in exchange for cheaper price. I don't judge, but don't complain to the manufacturer when your stuff is on fire, or leaving comments like "made in xxx is sh*t!".
I use the same Raybon glasses every year lol.
Is it really a counterfeit lighter if it works like a lighter?
The variety of textures in the *yutulux* pack is impressive. From smooth leather to textured suede, there's something for everyone.
Hi, Can I use this video link in my website, we are working for tracking of genuine products using blockchain ?
When I was young, my step father invited me to a job call that was located at an abandoned store where a company needed workers to renovate and repurpose the building. This store was your average hole in the wall market with questionable products. I’ll never forget when I stepped in the back were BOXES and BOXES, of fake pokemon, yugioh, magic, and pog trading cards and items were just left, probably cause whoever bought them couldnt turn a profit so just ditch everything.
*"FUGAZI INC." Nice touch haha* 6:59
Eyy issa fugazi, fuggetaboutit
when you try to sell a brown leather bag for $4k, that isn’t sustainable neither..
Is integrity a scarce resources? What price would you pay for earnest, genuine, true trustworthy products?
Regardless of the uzbagx or any other factors, I ardently hold that without proper expertise, one would fail to distinguish variations in the sack's appearance or metal parts.
6:02 am California San Diego
15:08PM Germany
02:10 PM Tunisia
15:11 pm London.
5.48 PM Swiss....
if 'Luxury brands' like LV would stop selling their bags or NIKE Air jordans shoes at 10x it cost to make then counterfieters woukdn't have a market base looking for cheap knock offs
"Nnnnoooooo how will expensive brand #5431 make money now!!!!! they're losing money!!!!" lol
this problem exists to solve the problem of overpricing! the boss just wants another ferrari, telling me that the real deal is more secure is not an excuse!
Its really hard to tell with some products. One could hardly tell anymore.
Exactly
I really appreciate the *suluxs* bag. The quality of the bag is also very good, the embroidery stitching is good, and the interior is neat. This is a great find!
When you hear the word 'counterfeit', which country comes to your head? 😂
Tbh not France 🤷♀️
Khopela nyuo 😂
how about selling expensive stuffs made in sweatshop
Omg finally a great vice video!
All their videos are great
Everybody gotta eat 🤷🏾♂️
Yeah, everybody knew fake is bad product, but how do you know which one is fake. Sometimes they push the price of fake product the same as real one.
This is the real problem. When people can't track whether they got the real thing or not
Having them all on the blockchain would be easy to scan and determine if they are geuine.
What would you scan? Some barcode, qr code or chip that can be copied?
May be wrong but isn’t this what Vechain/VET can do or aims to do?
VeChain Gang 🚀🚀
VeChain (VET) 💥🚀🌙
@@zinjanthropus322 Yep. QR codes with a password on labels or leaflets, or can always inscribe the code on the product if it's made out of plastic or metal.
The beauty of it is that it can't be copied. You can always enter your code and check the history of your product - where and when it was manufactured, where it was sold and etc.
The thing is, if someone in China just makes a copy of a code - it doesn't matter. If you're say in the US and blockchain data says it's still in a store or a consumer got it in Europe - you know it's fake.
Well its good and cheap if you buy counterfeit clothes, bags, watches, shoes etc as it helps poor people and all but not counterfeit cosmetics, meds, foods, electronics etc which can harm you personally. Also many big brands and company priced their products unusually high and exploit their labors just to make profit.
That's probably the most selfish and ignorant comment I've ever read. You don't seriously believe that buying counterfeits is good for "poor people" so long as it doesn't harm you personally, do you? They've connected the so-called "harmless" counterfeits, like bags and shoes, with organized crime groups and street gangs, none of which help the poor. They exploit the poor just as much as big corporations. Only difference is they cut out the middle man.
I dont mind counter fit clothing so long its very good replica. But definitely not medicine/food or electrical 😂. Thats just common sense 🤦♂️
Counterfeit clothing may leech chemicals into your other clothes when you put them in the washing machine, or made with the help of toxic and harmful chemicals that are not removed during the manufacturing process which can lead to skin diseases and irritation
@@maciejkrycki8976 😂 ok 👍
those red Nike with da black heel though.. 😶💖
We need a bag storage tour where do you store all your handbags #KKUWAN
This video could’ve been way longer….
How you make/sell a fake escalator!?! Lmfao
I love you man
This way the company can say its not ours!! Just give us an option to register our purchased products with there servers !
Some super fancy brands dont get counterfeited at all??
Hey, Paris Hilton and knockoff Paris Hilton 🤣
for clothes and copies of high end shoes and bags---who cares. cosmetics and appliances that can be dangerous, thats another story. OREGON AND WASHINGTON CHERRIES ARE THE BEST!
It's still intellectual property theft to buy knockoffs of clothes and other fashion items, even if it's not dangerous to you personally. The artists who make the designs on some of these items only earn a fraction of royalties from the overall profit generated from the sale of the item, plus a lot of fast fashion clothing items have been discovered stealing designs from indie artists who make almost no money at all. It's really not fair to them that their designs get ripped off constantly, while customers continue to see IP theft as a victimless crime.
@@JarethTheGoblinKingForever I’m not paying a 3500$ hoodie so I can make the ceo more billions ,I’ll pay 60 & support that factory worker whose making that 3500$ hoodie on the Pennie’s while they probably make 80% of that 60$
@@Rewelsworld Or just, you know, not buy a designer hoodie at all... when you buy "for the factory worker", you're typically buying a black market item that was stolen. I agree, it's also horrendously silly to spend a high amount of money on a hoodie, but why not buy from thrift stores? It keeps down textile waste and gives money to local businesses when people buy second-hand clothes. Etsy has some great used hoodies with cool designs and logos on them, and they're sold by students and small businesses.
The brands which make products with a fraction of the price tags and selling it at higher rates are obviously making people lore into counterfeits.
Don't be obsessed with expensive products then when you have no money. It's not that hard
I am not talking about health and safety risks - I am talking about lost tax revenue
Okay, buying counterfeit medicine or cosmetics is plain stupid, but fake bag? Unless the material is toxic - I have no issue with that. The original brands are ridiculously expensive
I'm surprised you didn't mention India, because like 70% of the stuff people use if not real
So any actions on China, under WTO?
How does tax evasion relate to illicit goods?
I guess 3:03 He looks like Marshall from HIMYM
I feel like I’m watching an ad for the company in Spain.
Blockchain and IoT devices will be a big player in preventing counterfeit luxury items as well as food shipments
Vechain....
What's with all the stupid posts about blockchain that is completely irrelevant.
@@2011blueman Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's irrelevant.
@@jdv19852010 precisely
@@GmodForDays I understand blockchain, I'm a programmer for a financial institution that uses blockchain. You on the other hand clearly don't understand blockchain.
most manufacturers have moved there operations to China and this is the outcome
RIP Vice Media🪦
I don’t get it - why don’t people just go to the official website of these companies and buy their products directly from them there?? If you can’t afford the retail or sale price and you take your chances with the (un)safety of a counterfeit/knock-off, then that’s on you 🤷♀️
This is largely the answer, but only for those who care about buying authentic products. Some people don't care, nor does the difference matter in many cases.
@@Browne7100 Wow, truly horrifying! Reminds me of the book Poorly Made in China. His point was basically, you won't know when or how they'll screw you, but it's guaranteed they will and every time you catch them they'll just screw you a different way.
@@MatthewStinar makes sense 👍
@@Browne7100 in that specific case I don’t think there’s a difference between one audio listening device and another (I think the $400 one is probably just because of a brand name). I’m mainly talking about incidents like the fake Foreo toothbrush *THAT LITERALLY EXPLODED* on someone’s bed because they didn’t want to take the time and save up the money for the much safer, secure and authentic version. I think headphones are a little different 🤷♀️
*yutulux*You are so well-informed about luxury accessories and bags. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much
Difference between a counterfeit and knock off
I wouldnt mind a fake pair or two.. but spending that money on the real deal is dumb
My issue is with the ammount of work they are stealing, all the engineering and development is stolen when counterfeits are made
I buy replica AAA watches for a fraction of the price
I have a few myself and they never miss a beat. I also have a couple of legit ones too.
@@popeye9048 Nice AAA replicas watches. You should buy a used original watch box.