Hawaii's Feral Cat War

honestly , anytime people or scientists try to blame animals , I tend to side with the animals , scientists often do more harm than good , same goes for people

@@sinabagherisarvestani8924 Ctrl C, Ctrl V. You’re simply misinformed. The cats are the problem, they rip through native species, quite literally I must add

GUYS!!! Hear me out!!! DONT DOMESTICATE ANY ANIMALS EVER!!! Solution found!!!

@@sinabagherisarvestani8924 Uh huh. Scientists have helped create medication which saves millions of lives everyday. They created vaccines eradicating diseases and have precaution just in case of anything goes wrong. They helped make satellites which your device is getting signals from.

@@zzzzz8421 what's the problem exactly? I don't have a mouse problem in my neighborhood thanks to strays, but 5 min from my house and there's a rodent problem and no strays to be found.
It's called the circle of life dude, insects are far worse and more invasive than any mammal. Cats rip through native species? What about when those cats ARE the native species? What about the predators to cats that hunt cats, are they not also the problem?
It's an endless loop.

It’s just like covid deniers, now imagine all the people denying climate change we’re F*KD

It is not that simply cats are among those animals that have a very special and long lasting relation with us humans, we see cats as almost equal to humans and that goes already back to Ancient Egyptian. Scientists found cat mummies and cats together with humans in their graves which shows that cats already had a special status in human society and a very special relation with us humans back than. And if humans ever would be a problem that threatens birds we would not just shot and murder them so it is understandable that some humans have big problems when we do that to cats

Literally, if you love the cats so much then you should put them down instead returning them to a hard life and destroying the wildlife, you would think since they are Hawaiian they care more about the wildlife then some feral cats

It's the puzzling phenomena I've seen on TV from USA, where people give certain animals human traits, and insist that the animals are just like themselves. This have resulted in bizarre forms of "morality", where for example in my own home nation of Norway we were mercilessly vilified in the 70's and 80's because of the traditional seal and whale hunt, traditions that go back literally thousands of years. The reason for the whole whale depopulation was mostly Americans in the first place, and a few other super wealthy people that craved the oil from the blubber of the sea mammals to fuel their lamps, until Seneca oil, or Snake oil, became a viable alternative, possible to process into kerosene.
And to show the world how much the whales was loved, things like Sea World was lovingly embraced, where everone is clapping their hands and showing their fluoridated teeth, as a sign of approval when the wild mammals are forced to do various tricks to gain some tasty food, putting such a ferocious wild thing as a Killer Whale inside an aquarium prison is beyond me. Here we were condemned for having developed harpoon-cannons that ended the misery in an industrial speed, and still on the Western Isles, like the Grinda Drap at the Faroese Islands, they have developed killing giant sea mammals into a science, and they don't do it for fun, they do it for food.
Now seal and walrus is getting overpopulated, and the emotional crew filming Blue Planet 2 or similar for BBC explained that the walrus actually toss themselves off cliffs because there's no more room on the islands they use to breed. Calling it suicide, or a clear sign of global warming, that means that the walrus don't have ice enough anymore. The truth is that the growth ratio have just been growing like locust since exactly when we, the traditional shepherds of the Arctic seas, for some reason are not thought to deserve the same respect as Eskimos/Inuits and a wide variety of other ancient cultures. In Europe they even refuse to eat the meat from the reindeer that the natives of Northern Scandinavia have been living off for 50.000 years or so, because they think of reindeer as related to Rudolf, and so cannot be eaten.
It's not a sane world.

Cats are becoming more pests than pets and it's all our fault.

or just trap them. trap goes under water, save money on bullets. thats what me and my gf do!

How about .30 Carbine, M1 Carbine would be a decent weapon used against Ferals and it was also used in WWII on both theatres Europe and Pacific

nah, ur not a cat lover. cats have hunted birds for thousands of years.

So we can't have mainland people? Because they're not native to the islands either, and because most of them are military, they're also responsible for environmental destruction

I'm a cat owner and I can't believe how blind these cat advocates are. I'm not too dumb to deny that cats kill birds. They are not trying to take away your pet cats, they are trying to control the feral population. This shouldn't even be controversial, some nutcases are just trying to make a big deal out of it.

@@adamk9677 These are not wildcats, they are strays.

They are a cat lover unlike you. Neglectful of your animal and others around it. Sad

Notice it’s an old white lady too. “It’s murder” what about all the endangered birds getting killed by the cats?

Lmao. That’s why I came to the comment section. Her math is bonkers.

@@ethanp9893 If it were an old black lady.....?

@@basedsoothsayer but it isnt

@@ethanp9893 The relevance of her being white is.....?

A lot of people don’t seem to understand this.

I hear you. I adore cats, but I understand.

Exactly this.

"How can you look at yourself in the mirror? You murderer!"
Uh, lady.. cats are euthanized by the thousands daily in the US because humans can't fathom the damage they do. They just imagine Fluffy is playing in the backyard.
No lady! Fluffy is killing birds and fighting other cats for territory while pissing on your car tires!
DON'T LET YOUR CAT OUT!
It breaks my heart to pull a dead cat off the road. I love cats.. but I love birds just as much.

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The fact that it's still your cat says enough about you

@@prehistoriccreature1800 what does it say?

XD

That's a myth

more like pet lovers XD

They think they are animals lovers and care about the planet, but they have a fridge full of dead animals.

They r okay killing fish to eat kittens

They're posers and smooth-brained "animal" lovers, too soft and ignorant to truly care about all the animals around them. They love what's cute and that's it.

Animal lovers are just control freaks

Because your a colonizer

You do realize that those birds will be disappearing irrespective of the feral cat population thanks to microplastics, jet fuel leak, etc

Same here this year the northern cardinals didnt come to visit:(

​@@greggarcia6294white comment

All my Cats will always be outdoor neighborhood cats, a buncha Kerans and Nimbys commenting

​​@@greggarcia6294so your reasoning is its happening anyways so don't try at all to slow it down?

I'm not sure it's 'sport' so much as an instinct to pounce on small things that move like prey. They'll be experiencing the effects in the pleasure centers, of the brain, but I doubt they're actually conscious of the notion of 'challenge' or 'fun' like we are.
However, yes. We have to make it practically impossible for our cats to kill, or otherwise interfere with, nature.

I stupidly put up a bird feeder “cause my cat was too sweet, fat and lazy to ever want to eat a bird. Let alone able to catch one.” I was wrong 😑 luckily the victims were an invasive species of bird to where I live but the feeder was taken down.

@Kikuyu Kiiru
Ahhh yeah ... So do Lions, Jaguares, Leopards, and in Fact other Non Feline Animal's. There more information and better ways of Compating the issues. Australia just killed Million's of Cat's and now they are paying the Price. Infestation of Rats and Mouses out of porportion. It's called Carma. Don't F** with Nature unless you know how to handle it.

@@Misael8924 House cats/pets aren't part of nature.

Yet no mention of the Hawaiian mongoose an invasive species brought in to kill rats that eat bird's eggs so they don't hatch then kill hens all birds that are to blame. Not all cats kill birds as I have some that are well fed and don't kill birds just mice and rats for a few of my cats. "Mongoose are opportunistic feeders that will eat birds, small mammals, reptiles, insects, fruits, and plants. They prey on the eggs and hatchlings of native ground nesting birds and endangered sea turtles. The small Indian mongoose has been blamed with the extinction of ground-nesting birds in Jamaica and Fiji and commonly kill birds, including 8 federally listed endangered Hawaiian birds, such as the Hawaiian crow (‘alalā), petrels (ʻuʻau) and Hawaiian goose (nēnē). It was estimated in 1999 that mongoose cause $50 million in damages to Hawai`i and Puerto Rico annually."

Cat feces contains Toxoplasma gondii, a parasite that may alter human minds to make us less fearful of them.

@@VitaKet oh yeah let me pet a lion if im infected

they aren't invasive, you are

@@TheTokkie Honestly, not gonna lie, humans do seem to be an invasive species so if you're gonna make this argument I'm not gonna argue with you but you gotta admit you are also invasive.

@@GloriousBirds Cats are African, they are "invasive" to all of Eurasia but guess what, ecosystems adapt, the fittest survive so that's why cats thrive

Absolutely delusional!
Also, that guy who feeds the cats every night! “My biggest fear is what would happen to these cats if something happened to me?”
Insanity!

Self serving and does not care about other animals clearly. Not even sure if she truly cares about the cats honestly.

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or a small bird

I have seen/met lots of spoiled, mean cats! That is so much bull! Cats will hunt whether they are full or not.

They would kill you if they could.

i have met abused cats that are hostile

I did imagine if we suddenly become small.......let be serious here.......some of our cat probably slap us until we die and eat us or just play with our dead body like a ping pong ball.....

With the massive amount of feral cats in the United States in general, it’s irresponsible as an owner to not sterilize and keep your cat inside.

@@jocelyncooper1738 or just not have a cat?

My cat goes outside but its spayed.

and we need to be ok with killing them to protect our ecosystems. Prevention is too late for hawaii, and many other places

@@hylaarborea1090 plz stop, I know that it’s cruel but it’s cruel to the other animals also, plus what happens if your cat gets hurt?

Ya I kinda want to go there now just so when she goes to sleep the cats sleep and leave them there with all the birds they killed along the way to so she can see the damage

The problem being is that they can't say, "no!" The word gets around and many will drop off cats to these people instead of taking them to a shelter or adopt. Hoarders cannot afford to take care of even two in many cases.

"iTs mUrdER!"

There paid to save natural birds

That is not true we fix them so that they do not reproduce and offer medical care to the ones who need it. Line 3 is causing more demage than these cats but here we are watching how these people kill cats.

I have a cat with TMJ that can’t chew and she got into a closed cage and decimated my 3 last parakeets in spite of never being able to eat them.

Yep. My neighbors have a bird feeder and she is chomping at the bit to get those birds.

@Tsar redesign Even with loads of toys and other things, mine still hunt birds and shrews relentlessly when outdoors.

@Tsar redesign Even with toys, my neutered cat still wants to hunt. He had attacked my cocky Parakeet before, so my Parakeet paid for teasing him with his life.

Yup!

On a technical point the term murder applies only to humans, animals are killed.

There's a virus found in cat urine that infects mice as well, making them unafraid of cats. Really stupid behavior. This same virus infects humans as well. Can't help but think this is why so many cat people are so irrational about cats. Not just their pets but ALL cats, including feral ones.

underrated comment

Well put.

Notice the extreme cognitive dissonance of the procat crowd. They literally refused to engage with the facts and operate 100% off of emotion.

Old white women..

The people defending the cats are colonizers themselves.

She's one of those that since she's not directly responsible for the birds death she doesn't feel guilty. You know out of sight out of mind.
Also she's not emotionally attached to the birds like she is cats so even though cats as a whole are not at risk of going extinct she really does not care past some lip service platitudes.

TNR doesn't work in diminishing feral cat populations. Anyone who has tried to reason with TNR advocates know that they are in denial and don't debate the issue in good faith. As pointed out in this video, feral cats live short, miserable lives. It's not humane to allow an invasive species like feral cats to prey upon native species that haven't developed protections against them, and it's not humane to feral cats either. Obviously, euthanizing them is less costly than TNR, especially when the total cost to wildlife and human health is taken into account. But what is lacking is the political will because of the willful ignorance of species-centric TNR proponents.

@@inubaka07 Why would she feel guilty? Cats killing these birds is natural selection and you’re just interfering with nature. They may be special bird species but nature does not care.

@@hunterbogart1923 we're an invasive species - it's not a justification to murder a person

Putting them down is quick and easy. They are predators with nothing bigger on the food chain to worry about. People don't realize that cats are one of the few animals that kill for fun. I trap and put one in the head. Quick and painless.

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honestly , anytime people or scientists try to blame animals , I tend to side with the animals , scientists often do more harm than good , same goes for people

As well keeping insect, reptile, rodent and fish populations in check.

like birds are important so are cats. with too much of these birds they will harm the worms population and so on.

@@adamk9677 That's absolutely moronic. Cats are not native to these islands.

@@adamk9677 worms aren’t important to Australia’s ecosystem. The dirt has poor nutrients, and if worms were there, then all of the plants would go extinct

correct

Hahahaha true

Absolutely. I love cats & owned several as a child. Things changed for me as an adult and I became a dog owner. My dogs were never let free to roam as I live in Victoria, Australia.
My gorgeous dog died recently and I now plan to get a rescue cat. Because of where I live, my new cat will be an indoor cat. We have a 24 hr/day cat curfew because domestic cats are known to kill our indigenous birds and small mammals.
I'm very happy to save a cat and our indigenous wildlife at the same time. I hope all countries with vulnerable wildlife put these rules in place. If you want to own cats, you have to be compassionate to your local indigenous wildlife.
I'm going to get a cat in the next couple of weeks and I can't wait! I'm going to be a 53 yr old single lady with a cat! 😊😆😂

They're not "things" they're kitties! 😤

@@monacoofthebluepacific2571 hahahaha its okay 👌

@@monacoofthebluepacific2571
Are you crazy? When I said "things" I was talking about my circumstances not a species!
If you'd read my comment, you'd know I'm about to be a cat owner again. I love all animals including cats.
Chill out and read a comment before you react with 😤 anger.

If it wasn't for cat's they would be up to their armpits in rodents and snake and mosquitoes and other vermin cat's usually hunt.
Cat's keep mice population down.
The number one killer of birds and other wild life is human's with their pesticides and destroying habitats and buildings with glass windows i could go on but cat's are being scapegoated.

@Richard You are correct. And they think that they are God to rearrange the ecosystem. At the same time, too stupid to even realize that of the thousand animals each cat kills, most are even cuter than cats. First, holacaust the native people, then holacaust the native animals.

@@cobalt1754 Miss Kitty could be a troll hired by the pet food industry, with the idiotic remarks of whataboutisms. For which it stands, what does America stand for? To make a profit anywhere and anyhow. Whether to destroy the planet with climate change while coming in last place in the Paris Climate Accord, or by destroying ecosystems to sell more pet food to the idiots that feed feral cats.

@@winning3329 i think this is the crazy cat lady from the video!

Imagine them hearing about how in Australia they shoot feral cats 😅, they would want to go to Australia and try to stop them even though it’s none of their business since they don’t live there 😒🙄

Hello Sarah 👋 how are you doing today 😮happy new year 🎊.

The cats should not be killed!

@@dr.trixiecp5651 so you would rather have a bunch of birds who are not evolved to survive cats die out meanwhile there are cats all over the world this bird is only native to Hawaii it's not found anywhere else maybe you'll find them flying in the ocean somewhere near the shore that's it I don't know if they migrate to other areas but I don't think they do meanwhile cats are literally everywhere

honestly , anytime people or scientists try to blame animals , I tend to side with the animals , scientists often do more harm than good , same goes for people

@@olliedwards8069 Yeah we should shoot them up into space

@@dr.trixiecp5651 You're telling me that a wild cat can live perfectly fine in a person home without attacking them?

cats can live very well in the house. no cat " has to" go outdoors! if you can't keep it in your apartment or house, you simply won't get one. and besids being hunters, cats live dangerously outside.
so many cats disappear and they are killed. this is not fair to the animals.

@@Optimismus53 agreed especially the cat is not designed to survive in a urban area. non the less this was a great video and i learned something.

Take this from someone from Hawaiʻi, the majority of cats, especially the ones in cities like Honolulu, are not strays or pets, they’re feral. Most of them have never lived in a domestic setting, and should be regarded as a wild animal. Just because they accept food from people doesn’t make you a pet owner for feeding them, and they will bite you and give you a staph infection before you even get close enough to pet them. They are absolutely pests that damage Hawaiʻi’s fragile endemic ecosystem, and should be eradicated.

honestly , anytime people or scientists try to blame animals , I tend to side with the animals , scientists often do more harm than good , same goes for people

@@sinabagherisarvestani8924 the fact is, though, that we *are* to blame ultimately because we introduced cats in this environment. There were no cats there before colonizers introduced them and now they are caysung havoc.

Lol start by signing against the idea of any pet...pet$$$$ are the animals bring to suffer and breed away from their native country to your home

Absolutely!

No, he spent a week in the hospital because he got the 💉

@@greggarcia6294 Ah, an anti vaxxer, cat advocate and probably a climate change denier.

Line 3 is causing more demage to people and nature than those cats. If we truly loved nature we would be out there stopping line 3 but here we are watching how they kill cats.

@@Rosa_avila are you saying that if im concerned about the impact of feral cats on wildlife I must be ignoring issues like oil spills? I activity protested mass logging in the Amazon Basin for 3years but it doesn't mean I don't think it's important to stop the Taji dolphin slaughter because the environmental impact isn't as big. And it looks like you managed to take time out from picketing the pipeline to watch the video, that is if you are doing anything to help stop it other than commenting KRplus about it. I really hope you are.

@@Rosa_avila we can have more than one concern at a time genius

Or that they’re thousands and thousands of miles from the nearest landmass

@Manish K S I was stationed on Oahu for three years. I see a simple solution here. Get thousands of traps and have soldiers from Schofield Barracks and Marines from MCB Hawaii in Kaneohe go into the remote areas and place the traps on a Monday and retrieve them on a Wednesday every 3 months.
If one owns a cat on the island they should be required to be sterilized. Hawaii should then adopt a “no cat” policy except for those that are current registered cat owners.
I love the Hawaiian people & islands. They are both unique and beautiful. They both deserve respect.

@@TunTavernWarrior2 That might be a good way to use our massive military budget to help clean up our messes at home. The problem is that these crazy cat people will probably commit murder if you ever say "no-cat policy"

I think pets as a whole should be required to be spayed and neutered. Shelters should be required to have animals that are matured to be fixed, and people that adopt animals at a young age should be required by law to fix their pets within a certain timeframe. I’m pretty sure that in a lot of places it is illegal to breed animals anyways due to the amount of puppy mills, so people who want litters of kittens and puppies don’t really have much of a reason to anyways.

Interview 1: staged interview with a fake scientist/capitalist contract hunter/killer. Interview 2: staged interview w a common householder/crazy cat lady. Wonder how much hallux paid vice for this video?

NGL, the solution the cat lady had was decent. However, it requires a bird population to not go extinct as the cats die of old age. Not going to happen.

Farmers used to love to have cats around to keep rodents under control. They’re great at what they’re biologically designed to do.

@@ascent8487 Yeah we have cats too on our property that like to eat the rats and mice around the chicken and bird pens, but we got them fixed so they don't have more babys and they were here when we bought the place. They know not to eat any of the wild birds but if we see a new cat we take it to a place that will fix the cat and I guess find it a home

Like New York 😳😵

Cats also don't belong in the americas.

honestly , anytime people or scientists try to blame animals , I tend to side with the animals , scientists often do more harm than good , same goes for people .

@AnubisPatron yeah domesticated animals are no longer part of nature because they are a product of human intervention. Not sure about slaughtering them all, because I am a cat lover in addition to wanting to protect the native wildlife, but forcing people to properly be the stewards of the animals that humans created by giving them good homes indoors would be a great start.

That lady is the description of crazy period.

@AnubisPatron cats are not bred by humans. Humans adopted them in recent times (less than 200 years). In their natural environment cats cannot hunt birds to extinction. But this case is different. These birds are defenceless against cats. So it's necessary to save the birds at any cost

@AnubisPatron Cats haven't been bred by humans like dogs have, modern domesticated cats are very close genetically to their wild relatives in Africa and the Middle East, unlike dogs and wolves.

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@SG 79 that's an interesting observation. 😄

@Rvqsx - Are you capable of critically thinking outside your bubble? Get those two neurons firing and think before you reply about all the cats outside those barn cats.

@Rvqsx - They kill anything small enough to prey on, they definitely don't just kill rodents.

@Rvqsx -
In the first place cats are native to the middle east so yeah think about

@Rvqsx - I was just going to say this, I grew up on a farm with multiple cats, they love hunting, us humans shouldn't get involved with other species eating habits but i suppose that is the human race in a nutshell...self entitled.

@Rvqsx - bullshit, they are one of the worst intoduced species into Australia ever! I see a feral cat and i scrap it, bang!, I have looked after to many native animals that have been attacked by cats and its sickening. Baby ring tail possums, sugar gliders, birds, cats are an introduced species that fk up the ecosystem, do some research before u talk rubbish

I've seen plenty of them, including the strays that Piss on my car an make a mess of it where they sleep on it. Should be cought on sight anywhere and their owners heavely fined if they have one.

Said the blind man.

Only ever seen four rabbits near my house, I hand fed half of them, 3/4 of them were chased off never to return thanks to nasty cats. My avatar chipmunk was my best friend, killed by a nasty cat. I swam with a great white shark and I pick up wasps with my bare fingers, I sense no hatred from them. Cats though, they kill 1.4 to 4 billion birds in the US alone, not to mention as many other awesome animals each year. Put 63 species to extinction so far, and won't ever stop until they kill every thing to extinction if they could. Cat nutter low intelligence people would not stop their cats no matter what amount of damage their nasty cats do.

@@mattbarbarich3295 ok boomer

@@WhistlesToAnimals I guarantee you're nastier than any cat, the cat is catching birds which is part of it's diet, & eating what it's supposed to, unlike you.

OMG! CATS HAVE ALWAYS FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS HUNTED BIRDS AND SMALL ANIMALS. It wont change. its part of nature. with too much birds it will literally cause a problem. and trust me there are alot of birds.

@@adamk9677 so like your logic its also ok to kill cats because there's a lot of cats and its nature

Of course we realise. And it is very useful when they kill rats and mice.

No, it is murder. By all intents and purposes it's murder. Don't @ me

@@Intifada1981 Look up the definition of murder dummy.

Banning the cats from the Islands is the only solution, i would like to participate in the trophy hunt for feral cats, even though im a cat person

@@default8274 same. let the killing begin.

Exactly, cats do not belong in Hawaii thus, they have to be removed/unthanized. I mean I love cats but like it's the only solution to protect Hawaiian's endangered species.

Yup this is starting to be a real problem not just in Hawaii but all over…I heard Australia has the same problem rn..

@Iron Boot why would you do that so many other animals would eat that and die too

Except humans have been "prioritizing" useful domesticated species since the beginnings of domestication. Think about how many how many wild animals are displaced/killed to protect cows or other livestock. I'm not saying its a good thing but it's certainly done on purpose.

honestly , anytime people or scientists try to blame animals , I tend to side with the animals , scientists often do more harm than good , same goes for people

the cats have found a niche. a giant niche. that is the problem.

@@sinabagherisarvestani8924 it's not the cats fault that they are doing what comes naturally. Humans caused the problem by not being responsible. I'm siding with animals to , cats will be around untill the end of humans but once you allow an species to be extinguished it's gone as evidenced by the ever growing list of extinct animals. In summation it sucks to clean up the milk that you spilt some times it's hard but if no one takes responsibility in a reasonable time frame the whole house is going to smell like rotten cheese and ass.

@@sinabagherisarvestani8924 bro st.fu. You comment the same ignorance for multiple comments without any basis

Yea only in the US, Australia etc

@MajorGalah definitely not Europe or North Africa, or most of the old world. Cats are much needed there

100%, cats need to be removed.

Cats become sick because people feed them pet food (which is low quality) and they drink contaminated water. They don't have "disease," they're the product of whatever toxins they're exposed to.

And indigenous people. Line 3 causing more demage than these cats.

Its not even their Indigenous species, its a bunch of people who moved to the island. what do they care.

@@alexxxxxxxx709 No, there's a mouse plague because they were artificially introduced in Australia as well.

@@alexxxxxxxx709 Actually one of the reason why Aus is full of mouse now is because cats kill tons of little reptiles ,such as snakes who should be one of the best mouse killer in the natural.

Your not native to Australia ask the aboriginal people lol

@@luwinson3047 That doesn't make sense, cats kill mice too, and are arguably very good at it also.

@@inquisitivesoul3618 they can and do kill mice, but for cats, killing Australian reptiles is much easier than chasing down a small and agile mouse that has actually evolved to deal with predators such as cats.
because cats prefer to kill other mice killers rather than mice, the overall number of animals that can kill these mice is reduced.

pretty much as effective as the state run 187 program minus the short expected lifespan of said cats.
Every neutered cat is out of the genepool. I mean the statistic is speaking for itself.Bird population down 97percent means no tactic right now is effective. And flying a chopper in those mountains to put up few traps...cmon thats hilarious. That flight cost about 350$ an hour.

@@niklasbla9076 They don't really specify but I would assume that the majority of feral cats are in or close to urban areas. Seems like the only reason they go through all that trouble to go into the mountains are to get the very few cats (if any) that are up there since one cat up would decimate the endangered bird population if it went unchecked.

TNR doesn't work at all because a neutered cat still gets hungry. Feral cats should be shot on sight if you care about native animals

Neutured animals still also carry dieases. The best is just to trap and kill the invading species unfortunately. Anything else is too slow.

TNR and what next ? They still have 10 more years to hunt and kill before dying out without reproducing. In that 10 years, we may lose hundreds of species forever. Immediate solution must be taken

its the toxoplasmosis getting to their brains

99.999% of all species went extinct before the first human ever set foot on earth.

@@jarehelt Never did i think i would see such idiotic take

@@raimundohott9716 Am I wrong? or just pointing out the obviously ignored? The plants and animals we know and love today wouldn't exist if others didn't go extinct

@dan quazar
Or we could kill all humans, so life can go extinct "naturally" If that's really any better 🤦‍♂️

@@jarehelt Don't worry humans are already killing themselves off as a species.

Cats will soon take over and I'm okay with that 😂

Most cat lovers have sense enough to keep their cat indoors, unless it's a barn cat. Mine only goes outside when he's going to the vet.

@@princessriahyokai I'm ok with cats but if one even if it's owned by someone if it ever attacked my birds I would kill it in a heartbeat. I don't understand why people let their cats out in areas that have lots of wildlife in a very precarious position. It's why I don't like the fact that coyotes eat and kill cats but don't see why cat owners go absolutely crazy over it. It's common knowledge in our area that coyotes and bobcats are pretty much everywhere and will kill small dogs and cats at night. Just keep your pet in the house or have it on a leash or harness when you take it outside. If you want to have a cat then neuter it so it won't breed out of control.

@@salvatorenostrade3331
That's evil excuse to justify your desire to kill owners' cats.

honestly , anytime people or scientists try to blame animals , I tend to side with the animals , scientists often do more harm than good , same goes for people

Hmm if feral cats are not there the population of mices will increase though

@@poorang900 Have you heard of a mongoose?

@@matthewblackburn8689 no. is it mice hunter? Does it not hunt birds and is it local there?

My cat does not even eat raw meat
I'd be concerned too

@@poorang900Mice and rats are easier to trap. A tall enough bucket and a ramp leading up to the rim. Having a feral cat population grow out of control is a bigger problem. Especially when they can enter bird homes and drag them out.

No it'd called sensibilty. Why it's not right to kill cows, pigs and so on, a position I don't necessarily agree with, but that I deeply respect, to hunt deer and so on , and instead it's ok administering death to a particular animal to stop a natural process?!

@@MrDanrock82 They are an invasive species, that is not natural.

@@coolfelixcat Ok then even dogs are invasive. Would you act on that? I don't think. It's only all a cuktural bias.

@@coolfelixcat Plus, I just watched a documentary yesterday night of a guy who just capture, NOT KILL, the iguanas in Florida of which I don't remember the specific species name, sorry. He just capture them and resell or give them to people who want to take care of them and keep them in captivity. I acknowledge the problem, I know they can cause a huge harm to the number of birds, but do we really need to be so brutal? I guess if it was doga there was already a WAR on it. Come on.

@@MrDanrock82 They explain the reason in the video, feral cats are usually infested with parasites that would make it a lot expensive and cruel to the feral cat to make it go into the process of removing the parasites, I'm not a vet but the process usually takes months or years and the medicines are not cheap, not to mention that they are feral so not every cat could adapt to a pet life and will try to escape constantly.
Euthanasia is the most human and at the same time cost effective way to remove the cats from the islands.

In Indian cities it's not cats but pigeons and people's obsession to feeding them is what caused sparrows to disappear

😂 so true!

everything in that forest is dead bud

I would smash them right infront of the tourists.

@@aethulwulfvonstopphen8013 Sure you would tough guy

this makes me sick to know... how sad. Hawaii has some of the most beautiful birds on the planet.

Which trail?

Lol

My cat will only sniff you

YOU ARE A BAD KITTY!!!!!

Animals that "have a right" to their habitat get eaten all the time. That's nature for you.

@@andreste1989 True, what is your point though?

@@andreste1989 okay and??? we introduced a predator that decimated bird population and you say thats nature for you?? thats us

@@izaacbogan257 yeah it’s nature don’t feel about it

That's what happens when you domesticate one of the most efficient predators in the world and unleash them on animals that didnt evolve to defend themselves

"until there is nothing left" - you know, like the humans who brought the cats to this paradise.

There actual parisites.

honestly , anytime people or scientists try to blame animals , I tend to side with the animals , scientists often do more harm than good , same goes for people

Sina Bagheri Sarvestani i give your bait a 3/10, it’s not very subtle

Human animals are the most destructive of all species.
Yes, of course, ALL cats and dogs should be sterilized by international law.

Nautering is animal crualty idiots

@@thejack9178 I'm assuming that you're joking!!! But, just in case you're not, here's my question! Just how do you think the domestic cat population has exploded to such an extent? How do you think feral cats have come to be viewed as pests? No idea? Here's my answer to help you out of your quandary. Stupid, selfish people didn't have male and female cats sterilized before they turned 6 months. Female cats came on heat. Male cats were, naturally, interested and BOOM!! Cat population explosion. There are not enough good homes. Shelters are full. Stupid, selfish people dump the cats on the side of the road. Hello, feral cat population!! Stupid, selfish people don't sterilize their cats. Hello, unwanted litter of kittens. And, then they drown them. Or, tie them up in a plastic bag and throw them in the rubbish bin. Yes! I have rescued newborns out of dirt bins. Yes! I have taken in litters of kittens because they were going to be destroyed. Yes! I have nursed sick cats back to health because their health issues were ignored by their "owner". Yes! I have cats that were abandoned at the vet by their 'owner". So, you tell me what part of all of this is cruelty. A quick surgery done by a qualified professional veterinarian to prevent over-breeding and misery. Or, no sterilization and a life of endless misery, constant fights, constant abscesses, constant pregnancies, constant anxiety over food, constant searching for a safe, warm place to spend the night, constant illnesses caused by endless pregnancies, constant flea infestations, constant internal worms. Cruelty!!!?? You have no idea about cruelty!

In 2015, the American Veterinarian Association officially labeled outdoor cats as “inhumane”
They come to no good end. If the predators don’t get them your neighbors will.

"Survival of the Fittest." If cats "evolved" superiority over any other species, well, that's just too bad.

That’s why people don’t understand.

But it prevents them from reproducing

I hate to say it but you just have to euthanize for now, the birds are barely holding out

@@sommerfugl7040 oh great then - we just have to wait for generations of feral cats to die off. All should start improving in about a decade. Moron

@@fozianoreen1649 they eat endangered birds which needs to be saved

Lol that person is definitely in denial

I have heard this before from cat people (and dog people too) they think that because there cat doesn't kill things then no cat does either. Like when a cat is out in the wild with no food they are just going to let themselves starve to death.

People who's cats are dicks, assemble!

There just adult cry baby's,Who don't like to listen to science and statistics lol,And to that lady that said she's never seen a mean cat,,,,,👀👀👀 ya right whatever 🙄

That applies to most people who live there. Notice the Hawaiian native is the one speaking up in the city council meeting explaining that this is not right and needs to be stopped, meanwhile the spoiled wealthy retirees from the mainland are making the problem worse.

You couldn’t have said it better. They are very cute and cuddly *killers*. Let’s all be responsible pet owners and humans.

Excellent response 👍 thank you.

Well said

I love Cats. ♥️
I feel like humans worship Cats too freaking much over other species.

Feral cats should be controlled in ecologically fragile places like Hawaii, but the continental United States can adapt to the presence of feral cats, and where are some feral cats really OK

bootlicker legit the most dumbass term

@@ThePreparedSailor it's an amazing term, people just use it wrong

Bootlickers are vastly superior people to criminal apologists. Execute violent criminals for a more civil society

@@christopherswartz4116 funny that you think the scourge of our country comes from the bottom and not the top

@@Skoomz It comes from both, I am sure. But having known criminals throughout my life, they don’t change. It’s counterintuitive to defend the guy that will break into your home and steal you blind the moment you leave. In some cases, that has been in my own family. I can’t legally hang them like they morally deserve, so I rely upon law and order.

used too be

@@1Phire agree

what is vice? a magazine for cops who bust prostitutes?

Vice is CIA propaganda

To be fair, I think there's good journalists in most news organizations. More or less depending on the organization, which is a question that is a can of worms all on its own, but if a story is good, then it's good no matter who wrote it. Some degree of bias is expected, but if the writer tries to include as much context and as many different perspectives as possible without trying to rush out a story asap (kind of hard to do now with how competitive and fast news can be with modern technology), then I think the reader/viewer will be informed enough to provide their own opinion on the matter.

Hunt them, just do it lol. They’re feral and is destroying the ecosystem. I understand that there are alternative solutions (spaying, trapping.) but doesnt that seem extremely ineffective? One single kitten litter can createup to 400,000 cats within just 7 years. Just hunt them and then the government should give citizens/organizations paid incentive to do so.

@@BowlingO0 That's just gonna create a bigger problem. There was one news that I read where to control the snake population, the government was giving citizens compensations when they can kill one. Eventually, they found out that people were breeding them and killing them to get the compensation. So when the bounties were down, the people just released them back to the wild creating a bigger problem lol.

end them period.

@@depressedcat5693 You’re right, maybe we can work out the issues with the incentives with something else. I doubt people are gonna go hunt cats for free thpugh (albeit, some hunters will do it for the sport.) But for real results we need to give the people a reason other than just the awareness of the problem. One idea, instead of paid incentives for just cat kills, maybe it should correlate to their population being controlled. Graph the estimated population of cats on the the island then go from there. Instead of an instant payment, maybe when goals are reached for the island, people will then get paid, (After one hundred thousand cats diminished, the first wave of payment will rollout, or something similar to this concept.)

They wouldn’t have been there if it wasn’t for humans, so let’s not sustain an invasive species populations. You are right though, because people think they are cute they think their lives should be spared, but what about invasive plant species that harm the ecosystem just as much? I don’t hear anybody advocating for sustaining those species because they are not “cute” and strike no chord in humans emotions

I watched a documentary about what you guys are going through I totally agree.

And then the mouse invade australia

@@riyanferdianto9791 If only they had more cats…

@@kevinc8955 Cats will go after everything and not just mice. This is adding gasoline on a fire.

.....And? Who cares about species going extinct? Did that make Australia disappear off the face of the Earth or something?

You ain’t never seen my Lab on cats…..catches them whenever and whatever and rips them apart. Got it from my GSP, Adolph’s Nazi Warrior Princess……

@@bobbycrenshaw5167 yeah your lab is bound to lose an eye one day

@@CarlosMongeLuna cats don’t stand a chance against dogs that are even slightly bigger than them cats are heavily reliant on dogs being afraid of them for survival

@@dbiii3659 nahh, just search youtube, its almost always a pack of big dogs in a very opportunistic hunt. a dog has to be at least 4 times the weight of a cat just to be a contender in a straight 1v1

@@bobbycrenshaw5167
I meant a “f-3” bangle cat.
The thing was at least 25lbs, and wanted to “play”.
As a cat lover, it unsettled me. I joked that the hybrid kitty must terrify them local dogs.
😳 Apparently, it has gotten out and has tried to kill some big dogs.
The pit bulls, rots, and Shepard’s FEAR that kitty.
When an a walk, the dogs tuck their tails under their legs and try to pass the house as quickly as possible.
🤦‍♀️This is why I will not get wild hybrid cats.
Humans screw EVERYTHING up!

exactly! If you let your cat outside and then try to walk them they will be harder to leash train but if you start them on leash they love it! whenever they want to go outside you just slap the harness and leash on and then open the door. They usually want to go outside so bad, they don't care that a leash is on them. They start associating leash with the reward of going outside. Catios are also great!

I used to walk my cat as a kitten but now he refuses

Leash training a cat is nothing like leash training a dog. NOTHING, even when considering the most mellow kittens. I have attempted leash training both puppies and kittens and there are a lot of cats that simply do not take to the leash, even with positive reinforcement and training, due to their innate temperament. Cats' mode of being outside is different from dogs, they want to dart under and up things. As opposed to a pack animal, like a dog, who instinctively wants to walk with the pack.

I leash trained my cat, who we adopted when he was 3. Not every cat wants to go outside, but if your cat does and the only way they’re let outside is on a harness, they’re going to be receptive to leash training.

I'm sorry but if you are a true cat lover you need to watch scientifically proven programs about how happy your cat is inside your home. We do not have leash laws for cats because they are not domesticated animals. Just because we keep them as pets does not mean they are domesticated. It means that they manipulate you because you feed them. If your dog jumped on my car and put prints and even scratches on it I would hold you responsible and you would pay for the damages of my property. You would be fined for letting your dog be unattended. Is your dog is a barking nuisance even in your backyard you can be fined if when the dog catcher shows up and he hears it barking. If your cat walks on my car and does the same thing or is howling and cat fighting and crapping in my flower beds I would have no lawful rights. Guess what would happen to your dog even attacked animals in your neighborhood? Guess what would happen to you if your cat was maiming and fighting and impregnating and killing animals in your neighborhood? America has a real problem with being bleeding heart animal lovers and the bottom line is these people who claim this don't even bother no learning exactly what your animal is. What breed of dog you have and its history for why it was bred for one specific reason. Example. You can know more love and raise a beagle right so that it will not bawl and run and sniff then you can love the instincts out of once Pitbull which is an atrocity to dogs that they even have to live. Don't recognize alpha like other dogs that are best friends for one specific reason. There's no excuse for Americans when we have the world at our fingertips. A world of knowledge. We are the most mocked and laughed about country because of our outrageous animal laws and our heinous behavior about what vicious breeds will allow on American soil. I'd say enough is enough. We euthanized animals for a reason in this country until these Pitbull lobbyists special interest groups destroyed the safety of our communities. That is not to be confused with a recognized humane society or animal rights activist group. America's freedoms don't work like that. We do not recognize a specific breed of any animal as a means to dictate the rights of all other animals in its breed or species. And enough is enough with our ignorance and ridiculous couch potato bleeding heart ideas about why it should be a felony to kick the s*** out of someone's cat or dog for digging up our flower bed and destroying our hard-earned landscape and property that we work our asses off because you're poor freaking animal has the same soul as I do and can't make decisions about my property or the lives of human beings or other animals above me. Why don't you cats and a dog and You bet your Life that I am a responsible pet owner because I care about those animals but I will never never take their side over your rights of your property because that's exactly what they are is property.