The argument is nonsense as well... It's like saying: We shouldn't give murderers a harsh sentence, because then it would discourage other murderers from admitting their crime!
It harms victims to have harsh sentences "because false accusers" wont come forward. Witnesses that overheard a friend talking about her "false accusation" wont come forward knowing that friend will be hurt. And victims of actual rapes wont come forward because fear of getting prosecuted. Its tough call personally I agree that sentences should be harsh. Personally I think as much time as him "labeled as a felon and a sex offender" pretty much forcing them to tell neighbors all future employers (spouses) that they ruined somebodys life as part of staying current on sex offender registry. Along with repayment to him for his lost time wages/education everything paying for any therapy ect he may need. And the debt should have compounding interest (because lost time wages damages every second he is not repaid in full is subtracting from his future/potential at a compounding rate)A four year late start is essentially stealing your highest earning years from you.
@@asillynertasillynert2204 Innocent until proven guilty needs to be implemented and we need to stop jumping to conclusions. Throw tomatoes at me all you want.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.o
The legal system is a joke with majority politicians being lawyers and judges of course same. Nobody sheds a tear for a white male going to prison. Instead there’s applause. A female however, silence in the crowd (of cowards).
Her words against him ruined his life and took away 5 prime years from him and she gets 5 years suspended sentence and only 2 months in jail at her convenience. This is beyond unjust.
welcome to "justice" USA by lawyers. i am retired. a retired SM (sergeant major) with 25 perfect service years joins a gym in Jacksonville, fl. tell the manager he is retired and did 5 tours in Iraq and was "injured" but did not go into details. he is 48 the "cute" desk clerk is 21. gave her a flower (rose) one day. she says thank you. he wrote her a poem. got a TY. did not see her for months. sent her a christmas card. nothing else. just a christmas card. no weapons, threats or harm (anything). he comes back from DC (his home) and two day later a civil stalking charge is presented him via local PD. $1000 for mr/ms. legal person (they need their cut of "justice"). the judge (that was elder) dismisses the claim. he did a "soft" riot act to the SM; more on the age "disparage" than anything else. he had to sit for an hour to let the "victim" leave the bldg.the look on the judge's face of this being "bs"; but justice can not deny batting "eyelashes" and poor me. the "victim" did not have to pay $1000 for any attorney. why? a "social justice" group in the county provides the "victim" (female) a free attorney. why? well for "social justice". out $1000. he moves within ten days to a town about 20min north. sells car, belongings and everything. remember SM he had been deployed to five different nations. moves to the dominican republic (as to be semi-close to the US). as he is getting his flight in tampa and allowed to walk on the tarmac. he "spits" on the ground in the name of his service to our nation, the personnel he lost, his PTSD, other injury's and his "good name". he is now 49 with a 25yoa domincan girlfriend (in the US that is automatically a "pervert") that "she" stalks him night and day in "love". with walks on the beach. the previous "victim" probably trying to get out of her student loan, attending BLM protests, and "transitioning" to lesbian. our nation can write (all) the biased, discriminatory laws the want to protect the cunning "princess's" you could not and can not touch this man's (SM) integrity. that integrity of service to (our) nation; is more honored and respected outside the nation he served than "in" the nation he protected and served. factual. an not this is "not" an isolated case.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.i
@@iMatti00 gotta agree with you all the way. The only thing that still bother me is the 90k. That’s nothing…… he should be awarded 1 million for each year spent in jail with tax money. Our lifetime is our most precious ressources.
Not just a two month sentence, she only has to do it in the fucking weekends!! She got detention for ruining someone’s life and getting him put in prison for years Edit: spell check changed “put” to “out for whatever reason
@@sassythesasquatch8036 Imagine getting sentence to 60 years in prison or something, then the judge says “Just on the weekends”. I swear to my cat (the most lethal goddess I believe exists) if you misspell one more thing.. I’m gonna send kittens after you, Sassy!
fucking amazing. man prison time 4,5 year + rape claim + career ruined + bad reputation = women prison time 2 months + a smile. ...........the system and this woman is sick.
And there are a LOT of people that will NEVER believe him to be innocent. Not just "not guilty" but actual innocence. He will have to live with the stigma for the rest of his life. Moving away might help, but the Internet remembers everything and employers do background checks. $90K restitution isn't enough for the lifetime of damage she did him.
How fucking dare you. So the penalty for lying is rape? You are an idiot. As if it's the first time anyone in the history of humans has lied, oh and I guess in your world men don't lie? You are a disgrace!
I am a female University counselor and I can tell you that this happens a lot. A boy and girl may have consensual relationship often initiated by the girl herself. But later she claims she regretted it. Or there were no relationship at all. In all cases the boy us sent off the college or even prosecuted criminally when a girl complains. The boys are simply defenseless. I hope there will be a reverse metro and name and shame the women/girls who are abusing their privilege
@@ronnie5329 Your fears are totally understandable. Record your interactions. Never delete your social media interaction. And never say sorry for something which has not been your fault. Girls use these cases in order to accuse you. demand at any accusation an attorney and demand you will have the right to sue them back for defamation. Don/gt settle with them for money. challenge them accuse you and then accuse back this gives them a lesson
What??? After she ruins his life she gets 2 months to be served on the weekends? This is a statement of our country now. Men accused women excused! Throw this female judge in with her!
+Gracie newsome Except - if you give her a big punishment - other liars will not come forward. The real issue is the guilty until proven innocent, and the fact that she had her mother chase her until she caved - and pointed a finger. It should require a lot more to get a conviction - in the first place.
"Except - if you give her a big punishment - other liars will not come forward" Oh that makes it all okay then, let her go and make sure she accuses again.
Jame Gumb Not at all, the real issue, is that it should require more than a transparent lie to get a conviction in the first place. I think the issue here, is that false accusations which can be seen through, need to have real consequence on the front end. Start by making it clear, that you will suffer real consequence if we can establish you are liar on our own. The issue of just charging in the UK with a waste of police time, is well outrageous. The essential complete lack of consequence in the US, Canada, and Australia, is even more so.
Jeff Jones Part of the problem, is that we keep looking at these things as different things, but they are the same. The frequency of false accusations will perforce grow as it is made easier, and the consequence appears to be non existent. The pressure against real sentences for the accused even in cases where there is clear evidence, will grow directly with this perception that a large chunk of the cases are BS. The process needs to be clear, the deliberate clouding of the issue in Colleges needs to stop (where sex initiated by a woman after a couple of drinks is not a rape of that woman, although campus surveys are counting it that way). The Brock Turner case, well, he was caught, witnesses etc. If the case is strong, well then so should the consequence be. However, this case and that relate, only in that to the degree we let women like this (and most face no consequence) make false accusations and allow the basic idea of rape to be diluted, we also make punishing real rape harder. The idea that men cannot be sexually assaulted needs to end, the idea that unwanted verbal contact is an assault, that a woman who initiates sex, is the victim needs to end. This in part so that cases like Brock Turner's are taken with the seriousness they deserve.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.l
@@iMatti00Nah, the judge is a coward. Lying about something super serious like assault should be heavier because it ruins lives and because it's always her word over his. She should be fined for a defamation lawsuit and sentenced to at least 15 years in prison. Women spend 1 night in jail and immediately think: "lesson learned, time to get out of jail" That isn't "Justice" that's double-standard.
Happens everyday. Plea bargain for a few years instead of a court appointed lawyer facing 10-15. I would admit to murder if I serve less than a year in jail any day, especially with a willing prosecution and a woman witness.
because whoever claims to be molested mUsT bE bELiEveD and help them heal that person who claimed molested them MUST be punished. Emotional reasoning takes over. Sometimes I don't think rape and sexual abuse victims should serve on a jury of a sex crime because they are more likely to (unintentionally) convict an innocent person by letting their experiences of being assaulted and not being believed cloud their juegement. BeCaUsE sHe sAiD s0. I still believe in innocent until proven guilty, it's way too easy to put innocent men like Jonathan Montgomery behind bars with no evidence. We need to understand the importance of putting the right people behind bars. Josh Duggar and men like him should never see the light of day again.
The more important question is this: how could our justice system send a man to prison based solely on the testimony of one girl? That system is broken. And second, the woman took over four years of an innocent man's life. She belongs behind bars for at Least that long.
Exactly. The implications are horrifying and makes you wonder how many more innocent men are sitting in prison based on only the word of a crazy ass female.
There's no way he could have had a competent attorney! Any competent attorney! Would have shown the inconsistencies! And no DNA or anything scientific! The better question is what type of jury did he have?? People don't realize in jury selection you get to pick six of your jurors! And many men think will if I pick women they'll be understanding, Wrong!!!! There women! They're going to be completely biased! You're best move is to appoint young men, that could and can understand that something like this could happen everyday! And you could be lied on! A paid attorney already knows this! A public defender, don't let them fool you they have a doctorate's degree in law! The problem is there case load can be anywhere 70 cases to 180 cases! And they may not be prep for you're case! Make sure they are!
@@kytaylor5080 Yeah, with no evidence whatsoever it should have been a he-said she-said case and thrown out. 4 1/2 years without any dna is amazing! Judge, jury, and attorney should be in jail.
Yeah it is , its all bcaz of this fuckin gender norms, u ever seen a woman getting hanged ?? I dont think so . This is why this world mskes me so upset. U want equality but cant take equality .
Scary, men aren't safe anywhere, you stare at something at a distance and accidentally stare at a young woman because she crossed your view. Now she's mad and calling you a pervert and accusing you of sexual assault. This is getting too ridiculous again the justice system fails again and again.
Why would she. She gets to go to jail when she is available for them on weekends. If not she goes to her regular engagements. She’s a woman, that’s how the world works 😂
Hello Helena, what moves would you suggest for the equal rights in criminal accountability? Lighter sentences for women is nothing new, do you think it's about time we put an end to giving women the kids gloves?
jar head John, don't you think we should start treating guys like this one I'm responding to without kiddy gloves too? I mean, he can't even organize his own protests and petitions. By the way, in response to what measures should be taking, exactly that. Do what I do. When you see yourselves thrown under the bus, go there and protest, goddammit. Women receiving shorter sentences is another sign of inequality and every one of those that falls. So, in this case (sentence length) you are the marginalized group and you should definitely do something. I fully support this cause, will sign a reasonable petition and go to a protest if it's in my area. But you have to get your asses moving instead of sitting there complaining.
I wouuldn't call it loaded, it puts the ball in your court and asks for your opinions. I also acknowledge that we give women lighter sentences, which has the drawbacks of inspiring more repeat offenders among women because they know the justice system has extremely soft fangs reserved for them, especially if they're pregnant, like the one who ran over a mail man and got six months. That's the kid gloves I'm talking about, not some random nobody who is mean to you on the internet. That's just life. People yell random things at me from cars about once a week. The guys that might be mean to you may be black, and I assure you, black men are not treated by kids gloves by the law system.
@@TeslaEmperor That doesn't make it any better. There's still literally no proof and it's still a he said she said thing. Nobody should be able to go to jail just because their partner changed their mind AFTER the fact and that's not valid proof. Better a guilty man go free than an innocent one rotting in jail. The guilty man can always be caught and jailed later and monitored closely but the innocent man can never get his life back. He may have only spent 4 years in jail but it's the prime years of his life and he misses out on 4 years of school, what's his option for schooling now, sit in class with middle schoolers when he's supposed to be a senior? Those allegations are always going to follow him around, people will always doubt and second guess if he actually did it, not exactly a good idea to put him in class with "kids" and he will be bullied in school, maybe not 'purposefully' but people will gossip and stare and start a million rumors. People do not recover from allegations like that meanwhile she'll spend 2 months in a cushy jail cell allowed to go free on weekends, basically just getting to skip school and she'll be met with comments like "you go girl" while getting patted on the back for "doing the right thing". The double standards are real; male victims don't even get justice when they have all the proof in support of them, women only need their word.
@@DrakeOola I agree with you one hundred percent. I was just pointing out that it was just that easy for her to win the case at the time unfortunately.
I find it sick you can convict someone only on the word of a person who could just as easily be lying as the very person they are accusing with no evidence.
Are you kidding me? 2 months?! This man lost years of his life. And their concern is that this will give the wrong impression about coming forward with the truth? Absolutely ridiculous
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.g
Nathan Bowles should be Payed for 4 years full employment, no lunchbreaks, weekends, hours off, plus a scholarship or whatever his dreams and plans were about
This woman ruined this innocent man’s life. Despite being proven innocent and the girl being exposed to the liar, there are still gonna be people out there who are going to look at him as a monster. She should be in jail for the rest of her life
It does NOT make it harder for them to be believed. If lying women were punished properly there would be less, and it would be EASIER for victims to be believed
What's scarier than the false accusation is the fact that apparently the accusation alone was enough to put this man in prison. Whatever happened to the burden to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt??
"I live in a prison in my mind." welp that's good enough it sounds like you've served your sentence. BTW I've been practicing medicine for 8 years in my mind, so please call me Doctor.
It does NOT make it harder for them to be believed. If lying women were punished properly there would be less, and it would be EASIER for victims to be believed
2 months of weekends at home?!! and 90K. Let's assume this guy was making 30K a year before being jailed, that still adds up to at least 150K in lost wages. What about the emotional and physical distress this guy suffered because of her lie? Does he get no restitution for his suffering and courage? Bottom line: stay single, and in ANY interaction with women always assume she is lying scum and protect yourself accordingly
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.b
I have no words. It seems like the one that lied on him was more worried about his life than the ones that's supposed to protect us. No faith in the justice system
Are we gonna talk about the fact that you can spend 5 years in prison *for a crime that never even occurred?* What actual, tangible evidence was the DA relying on???
I’m actually sick because of this, here’s a list why: 1: The guy got convicted with no proof, no rape kit, no witnesses, nothing. 2: It takes the woman 4 years to admit that she lied, 4 years is a high school lifetime. 3: The woman was convicted and sentenced to 2 months in jail, only served on weekends. I actually want to throw up or something, this makes me sick to my stomach how she got such a light sentence when a guy was falsely serving 4 years in prison.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man they could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.g _Edit 2/20/23: corrected voice dictation from the word “the“ to “you“._
@@iMatti00 Or maybe we can stop sending men to jail based solely on the words of worthless 304s. Some concrete evidence would be nice. You say that like she did him a favor. 304s are going to accuse the wrong one some day and it will backfire with the loss of thier pathetic lives and I fully condone it. I will raise money to get these men the best lawyers so they can have the best shot at beating murder charges.
So he serves 4.5 years behind bars, knowing the truth and wasting away ... She lives her life freely with an 'eat shit' grin, and confesses 4 years later when she's good and ready. Everyone then agrees that she " deserves some credit " for coming forward and telling the truth 4 years later, and she gets two months punishment.......... Wow. OK. If that's the price you pay for ruining someone's life, I have some candidates in mind.
@@Yishaiification no she wasn't, the victim was Johnathan C. Montgomery. In prison. rapist (doesn't matter if it was falsely accused) have higher chance of getting beat up or kill by inmates, so she risk his life for some laughs. what would happen if Johnathan C. Montgomery die whiles in prison
Fuck tell me about it,... My blood is boiling just watching this videos. And she only has to pay $90,000 for his 4.5 years in prison? At make that for every year the guy innocently spent in jail.
It does NOT make it harder for them to be believed. If lying women were punished properly there would be less, and it would be EASIER for victims to be believed
I'm glad she came forward. I have to wonder if there was negotiation behind closed doors about her sentence. I've never heard anything like it. The "time" she will serve is a joke, and the restitution works out to only $18,000 a year for every year he served in prison. Doesn't seem right. I'll tell you what...she MUST have faith...because if I were the judge, I would literally have to see Christ standing next to her in court to offer less than ten years in prison for her crime!
No youre lucky if you can even get one day out of the justice system, for false accusation. Some women takes advantage of this and I was accused after i ended a relationship, it was hell on campus until i got her to admit the lie. This believe all women crap ruins lives, and its Especially women partaking in this
Yeah great… her words were beyond disgusting and manipulative and she should have been laughed out of that court room and into a jail cell for AT LEAST as much time as he served. She’s a danger to all men she comes into contact with
But it doesn’t seem like you’re that grateful that she came forward, because you wanna make sure no other woman who falsely accuses a guy ever comes forward again if she has to serve that much prison time. It might be fair, but it doesn’t equal OVERALL justice.
@iMATTi00,. We are ALL so grateful for her lying and after FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, she finally recants her statement. We are so grateful that we are ALL going to throw a celebration at your house. Then she can thank YOU privately. Let us know how that works out for you. Gratification is a wonderful thing.
Elizabeth Coast should be sentenced to his entire seven year sentence. Don’t give me this ‘what will my family think’? That you are a crappy human being, for lying or for ruining an innocent man’s life? Credit for coming forward? Why did she lie in the first place? 2 months on weekends only? How is that punishing Coast?
I've been the a victim of the same thing after being married to a womana for over 26 plus years and six children later. A wife who physically beat up all our male sons in front of our other children by kicking and punching them in front of school officials. A wife who has been having a sexual affair with her male cousin throughout our while marriage. As soon as I finally confronted her about in front of the children she didn't deny it but goes outside and calls the police on me with a false rape accusation.
She needs to go to jail for the same amount of years or even double the years that he lost. Also any person that makes a false allegation towards any innocent person plus restitution & all legal fees should get sentenced as well.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.p
Yet, if you even question someone claiming to be raped, people criticize you for "victim blaming." "How dare you question the truthfulness of this traumatized woman?!" "Because sometimes bitches be lying."
Is that what this crazy broad gets for sending an innocent man to prison for close to 5 years? That's really protecting the rest of us from similar injustice!
Not having similar sentences between false accusations and the sentencing of these (were they true) INCENTIVICES lying and decietful people to perpetrate in their endeavours. Why? Simply because it is as such being told to them, that they can do harm and get away with it. This impunity needs to stop!
I thought people were innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Since that's the case how did an innocent man end up being convicted and sent to prison for that length of time if they weren't able to prove him guilty since he was innocent and now have to rely on a lying victim confessing to a lie? "The System is a joke" Smh.
doesn’t that send a message that you can falsely accuse someone of rape and make them serve 5 years or more in prison in exchange for (in the worst case) two months of weekends in jail? There are tons of women out there who hate their exes so much they would take that deal in heartbeat.
No, it doesn’t send that message whatsoever. Because if a woman really wanted to send a guy to prison as vengeance or revenge, she would just do it and she would never confess. How often do you see a woman come forward admit that she falsely accuse the guy? Virtually never. Only time it’s ever possible is if she gets caught and she’s afraid of the consequences so she goes ahead and admits guilt. But who just comes forward completely on their own? Basically nobody.
@@iMatti00 Because the justice system is a joke and enabled this deceitful behavior. But it sends a strong message that if ever you try to falsely accuse a man and you get caught you'll be dealt with severely.
@@georgenuamah2424- But you have it backwards. This woman was not caught. That’s the difference. If someone is caught lying, then a severe punishment is more than warranted. But if someone comes forward to clear someone’s name, and you punish them severely, nobody will ever come forward again.
Think about all the other men that might be in prisons due to lies! It't good she got off ez in the way that more might come out and admit lies so the innocent men can get out. But fucking hell still the guys life got ruined cos of a single lie sickens me any human can do this...
i doubt it. The people that did this are clearly ethically/morally compromised and broken in the head. They will not ruin their own lives and come out even for the light sentencing.
It's actually fucking terrible she got off "ez". You realize sociopaths make such decisions based on the risk, right? So if they see that they can ruin someone's life without consequence that's pretty much a green light.
She just fucking sat there with a smile. "Oh I know I sent a man to prison for 4 years and literally ruined his entire life, but I was in prison in my mind, is that not a worse fate?"
She (if she even was) a prisoner in her feeble mind is inexcusable. She has bought this upon herself, this is of her own making here. Now, to add insult to injury, now serves a mere two months after this poor man serves 4-5 years for a crime he didn't commit. This says a lot about this so called justice system. Feminism at its best.
@@rome79735 Yeah but tHe gEnDeR pAy gAP... Speaks miles when she can smile after ruining an innocent mans life and only get a slap on the wrist while being patted on the back for "doing the right thing"
No, I don’t think she really sit there with a smile. A lot of people smile when they’re nervous. Often when I am crying or about to cry I smile or try to make a little joke to stop myself. Even in the most dire situations. And you could also just be misreading her.
Never show leniency towards a liar, especially if that liar ruined another humans life. 2 months isn't equitable to the 4 years this innocent young man had to serve.
It wouldn’t feel like justice in one way, but another way it would absolutely feel like justice. I would be grateful to this woman. She never had to come forward and my son would’ve served out the rest of his prison sentence, if it wasn’t already over, and he would live the rest of his life classified as a predator and never be able to go to college or have a good career and would always be looked at as horrible. And also you would never really know if your son was innocent or not. I think a lot of parents would say they know their son is innocent, but that’s a lie. They may feel it in their mind, but they’re wrong. Many people commit other crimes and their family never sees it coming. I always think about dateline specials (Or whatever) when they say they never even had a cross their mind and their family member committed a crime or murder, and I always think that’s ridiculous. Anybody is able to do anything. If someone said my grandmother committed murder currently or when she was younger, I would know it could be possible. Anybody is capable of anything, might not be likely but it is possible. So you would never really know if your son was innocent or if he was lying and going to the grave with his lie.
Her lawyer said it would be a wrong signal to punish her hard. This sentence DOES send the wrong signal: do whatever you want, you will not be held accountable. He spent 4.5 years, she should have gotten 9 to sent the right signal: "dont fucking lie to ruin someone else's life".
You have got to be kidding me!!!!! This man lost four years of his life while she is getting off easy?! She is serving a two month sentence and can serve it on the weekends only?! Boy, must be nice to be privileged.
I just had a false allegation upon me by my longtime gf. She made two criminal allegations against me. She had wrecked my car drunk. We argued and then she said Im going to call the police and say you drove. (I had been drinking when she arrived in my smashed car) As the argument ensued I asked her angrily to leave. "Get a cab and go!" She said I'm not leaving. YOU ARE! Matter of fact I'll call the cops and say you are abusive and violent and that you were driving. "Who they going to believe? Me or you...!?" While she was in her drunken fit. I had turned my cell camera on and recorded her diabolical plan. I could have been removed from my own home... could have all my lawfully owned firearms taken. And ended up with a DUI. Charge with assault as well... I am now installing cameras in my home front and back yard. Once they make an allegation put it in writing they are trapped into the Matter of which you will pay dearly...
Good on you for recording. I hate hearing about all the cases like these where the man is accused and doesn't record anything... If it's her word against his it's an auto loss for the man, as soon as you even have reason to believe they're going to go down that route record everything, every little scoff or argument no matter how minor. Women should document everything too but way more important for men... We have cameras and audio recording devices in our pockets at all times, make it more common to use them... Even if you don't think you'll ever need it document it, if the relationship is looking rocky document every little mishap and if they start threatening things like that never go anywhere near them without recording it... I'd even go so far as to audio record intimate moments in case they try to claim foul play in bed too
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That sentence is a JOKE.
The argument is nonsense as well... It's like saying: We shouldn't give murderers a harsh sentence, because then it would discourage other murderers from admitting their crime!
It harms victims to have harsh sentences "because false accusers" wont come forward. Witnesses that overheard a friend talking about her "false accusation" wont come forward knowing that friend will be hurt. And victims of actual rapes wont come forward because fear of getting prosecuted.
Its tough call personally I agree that sentences should be harsh. Personally I think as much time as him "labeled as a felon and a sex offender" pretty much forcing them to tell neighbors all future employers (spouses) that they ruined somebodys life as part of staying current on sex offender registry. Along with repayment to him for his lost time wages/education everything paying for any therapy ect he may need. And the debt should have compounding interest (because lost time wages damages every second he is not repaid in full is subtracting from his future/potential at a compounding rate)A four year late start is essentially stealing your highest earning years from you.
@@asillynertasillynert2204 Innocent until proven guilty needs to be implemented and we need to stop jumping to conclusions. Throw tomatoes at me all you want.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.o
The legal system is a joke with majority politicians being lawyers and judges of course same. Nobody sheds a tear for a white male going to prison. Instead there’s applause. A female however, silence in the crowd (of cowards).
'Believe Women' my arse. She should do the five years he did.
a week for every day he did.
4 years for her lying, 4 years for ruining his life.
walkin dude that would be a shitload of weeks then. life
she was technically a girl at the time she accused the man.
+justin hodge
30 years isn't life. she's 21. she would be out by her mid thirties, assuming she gets off early on parole.
Her words against him ruined his life and took away 5 prime years from him and she gets 5 years suspended sentence and only 2 months in jail at her convenience. This is beyond unjust.
welcome to "justice" USA by lawyers.
i am retired. a retired SM (sergeant major) with 25 perfect service years joins a gym in Jacksonville, fl. tell the manager he is retired and did 5 tours in Iraq and was "injured" but did not go into details.
he is 48 the "cute" desk clerk is 21. gave her a flower (rose) one day. she says thank you. he wrote her a poem. got a TY. did not see her for months. sent her a christmas card. nothing else. just a christmas card. no weapons, threats or harm (anything).
he comes back from DC (his home) and two day later a civil stalking charge is presented him via local PD. $1000 for mr/ms. legal person (they need their cut of "justice").
the judge (that was elder) dismisses the claim. he did a "soft" riot act to the SM; more on the age "disparage" than anything else. he had to sit for an hour to let the "victim" leave the bldg.the look on the judge's face of this being "bs"; but justice can not deny batting "eyelashes" and poor me.
the "victim" did not have to pay $1000 for any attorney. why? a "social justice" group in the county provides the "victim" (female) a free attorney. why? well for "social justice".
out $1000. he moves within ten days to a town about 20min north. sells car, belongings and everything. remember SM he had been deployed to five different nations.
moves to the dominican republic (as to be semi-close to the US). as he is getting his flight in tampa and allowed to walk on the tarmac.
he "spits" on the ground in the name of his service to our nation, the personnel he lost, his PTSD, other injury's and his "good name".
he is now 49 with a 25yoa domincan girlfriend (in the US that is automatically a "pervert") that "she" stalks him night and day in "love". with walks on the beach.
the previous "victim" probably trying to get out of her student loan, attending BLM protests, and "transitioning" to lesbian.
our nation can write (all) the biased, discriminatory laws the want to protect the cunning "princess's" you could not and can not touch this man's (SM) integrity.
that integrity of service to (our) nation; is more honored and respected outside the nation he served than "in" the nation he protected and served. factual.
an not this is "not" an isolated case.
Hey at least she got killed in jail shouldn't that make everyone proud?
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.i
@@iMatti00 gotta agree with you all the way. The only thing that still bother me is the 90k. That’s nothing…… he should be awarded 1 million for each year spent in jail with tax money. Our lifetime is our most precious ressources.
"women are opressed" apparently
She gets 2 months and a “thank you” for turning herself in?! She let him serve more than 4 years! Privilege.
That's cause of the restitution. Pretty sure they got a victim approved plea for this sentenced
and to "boot" most states have (various) limitations on suing hence the (false) conviction.
Not just a two month sentence, she only has to do it in the fucking weekends!! She got detention for ruining someone’s life and getting him put in prison for years
Edit: spell check changed “put” to “out for whatever reason
@@sassythesasquatch8036 Imagine getting sentence to 60 years in prison or something, then the judge says “Just on the weekends”.
I swear to my cat (the most lethal goddess I believe exists) if you misspell one more thing.. I’m gonna send kittens after you, Sassy!
@@CookieMangler wadayetalkinabeet
If women want to be treated equally, maybe they should be sentenced equally as well.
Exactly.
This needs more likes
They should be. And people are saying woman don't have enough equality... look at men! I hate our society
@@justinaccount9920 you and me both.
Meow Tow agreed 100%.
fucking amazing.
man prison time 4,5 year + rape claim + career ruined + bad reputation = women prison time 2 months + a smile.
...........the system and this woman is sick.
+superstd She only served jailed time on the weekends.
And there are a LOT of people that will NEVER believe him to be innocent. Not just "not guilty" but actual innocence. He will have to live with the stigma for the rest of his life. Moving away might help, but the Internet remembers everything and employers do background checks. $90K restitution isn't enough for the lifetime of damage she did him.
That is 9 dollars an hour over 5 years for 40 hours a week. Not enough. Not even close.
oh please, men who are convicted of rape get about the same >.>
How fucking dare you. So the penalty for lying is rape? You are an idiot. As if it's the first time anyone in the history of humans has lied, oh and I guess in your world men don't lie? You are a disgrace!
So this guy loses 4 years of his life and she gets only 2 months in prison? Wow. I really do live in a messed up world.
White privilege. Not surprised considering in the same world, white male rapist Brock Turner got only 3 months for actually raping a woman.
Look at who the judge is. Just another example of the double standard and bias against men.
Cabin in the woods seems worth it nowadays
Cabin in the woods seems worth it nowadays
It seems more logical to leave this society then enable it.
I am a female University counselor and I can tell you that this happens a lot. A boy and girl may have consensual relationship often initiated by the girl herself. But later she claims she regretted it. Or there were no relationship at all. In all cases the boy us sent off the college or even prosecuted criminally when a girl complains. The boys are simply defenseless. I hope there will be a reverse metro and name and shame the women/girls who are abusing their privilege
Which university do you work for? Is it in the US?
@@TerraRiley No, in a West European country.
This is why im too scared to date women on campus. Its just a very different place and all the women will believe and bully the man.
@@ronnie5329 Your fears are totally understandable. Record your interactions. Never delete your social media interaction. And never say sorry for something which has not been your fault. Girls use these cases in order to accuse you. demand at any accusation an attorney and demand you will have the right to sue them back for defamation. Don/gt settle with them for money. challenge them accuse you and then accuse back this gives them a lesson
This is gross injustice. What about the future career of the boys ? All goes for a toss because of some petty vindictive woman.
What??? After she ruins his life she gets 2 months to be served on the weekends? This is a statement of our country now. Men accused women excused! Throw this female judge in with her!
+Gracie newsome Except - if you give her a big punishment - other liars will not come forward.
The real issue is the guilty until proven innocent, and the fact that she had her mother chase her until she caved - and pointed a finger.
It should require a lot more to get a conviction - in the first place.
"Except - if you give her a big punishment - other liars will not come forward"
Oh that makes it all okay then, let her go and make sure she accuses again.
Jame Gumb Not at all, the real issue, is that it should require more than a transparent lie to get a conviction in the first place.
I think the issue here, is that false accusations which can be seen through, need to have real consequence on the front end. Start by making it clear, that you will suffer real consequence if we can establish you are liar on our own. The issue of just charging in the UK with a waste of police time, is well outrageous. The essential complete lack of consequence in the US, Canada, and Australia, is even more so.
I just watched a vid about Brock Turner getting out already. Now I see this. I'm really trying to understand the rage swirling in my head right now.
Jeff Jones Part of the problem, is that we keep looking at these things as different things, but they are the same. The frequency of false accusations will perforce grow as it is made easier, and the consequence appears to be non existent. The pressure against real sentences for the accused even in cases where there is clear evidence, will grow directly with this perception that a large chunk of the cases are BS.
The process needs to be clear, the deliberate clouding of the issue in Colleges needs to stop (where sex initiated by a woman after a couple of drinks is not a rape of that woman, although campus surveys are counting it that way). The Brock Turner case, well, he was caught, witnesses etc. If the case is strong, well then so should the consequence be. However, this case and that relate, only in that to the degree we let women like this (and most face no consequence) make false accusations and allow the basic idea of rape to be diluted, we also make punishing real rape harder. The idea that men cannot be sexually assaulted needs to end, the idea that unwanted verbal contact is an assault, that a woman who initiates sex, is the victim needs to end. This in part so that cases like Brock Turner's are taken with the seriousness they deserve.
BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!! She should be doing at least as much time as he served.
Ikr 2 months is pathetic.
@@matthewtolentino5141 More like a slap in the face.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.l
@@iMatti00Nah, the judge is a coward. Lying about something super serious like assault should be heavier because it ruins lives and because it's always her word over his. She should be fined for a defamation lawsuit and sentenced to at least 15 years in prison. Women spend 1 night in jail and immediately think: "lesson learned, time to get out of jail"
That isn't "Justice" that's double-standard.
How do you send someone to jail with no evidence? That’s crazy! 💯
2 months in jail.
Happens everyday. Plea bargain for a few years instead of a court appointed lawyer facing 10-15. I would admit to murder if I serve less than a year in jail any day, especially with a willing prosecution and a woman witness.
With these cases, it’s unfortunately common.
@@starwarsjunkie7777 U.S. justice system nowadays is a joke.
because whoever claims to be molested mUsT bE bELiEveD and help them heal that person who claimed molested them MUST be punished. Emotional reasoning takes over. Sometimes I don't think rape and sexual abuse victims should serve on a jury of a sex crime because they are more likely to (unintentionally) convict an innocent person by letting their experiences of being assaulted and not being believed cloud their juegement. BeCaUsE sHe sAiD s0.
I still believe in innocent until proven guilty, it's way too easy to put innocent men like Jonathan Montgomery behind bars with no evidence. We need to understand the importance of putting the right people behind bars. Josh Duggar and men like him should never see the light of day again.
The more important question is this: how could our justice system send a man to prison based solely on the testimony of one girl? That system is broken. And second, the woman took over four years of an innocent man's life. She belongs behind bars for at Least that long.
Exactly. The implications are horrifying and makes you wonder how many more innocent men are sitting in prison based on only the word of a crazy ass female.
That means he had sex with her before they got married! Never ever have sex before marriage!
Thats how it works everywhere, you dont need evidence, its disturbing
There's no way he could have had a competent attorney! Any competent attorney! Would have shown the inconsistencies! And no DNA or anything scientific! The better question is what type of jury did he have?? People don't realize in jury selection you get to pick six of your jurors! And many men think will if I pick women they'll be understanding, Wrong!!!! There women! They're going to be completely biased! You're best move is to appoint young men, that could and can understand that something like this could happen everyday! And you could be lied on! A paid attorney already knows this! A public defender, don't let them fool you they have a doctorate's degree in law! The problem is there case load can be anywhere 70 cases to 180 cases! And they may not be prep for you're case! Make sure they are!
@@kytaylor5080 Yeah, with no evidence whatsoever it should have been a he-said she-said case and thrown out. 4 1/2 years without any dna is amazing! Judge, jury, and attorney should be in jail.
Female Privilege is real.
The next ammendment should false charges be illegal, unless heavy proof is found
" Innocent unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. "
It is already established its just not followed cause female privilege.
@Analyzing Male Slavery you're right! but why are men still soft? we need to get up!
Yeah it is , its all bcaz of this fuckin gender norms, u ever seen a woman getting hanged ?? I dont think so . This is why this world mskes me so upset. U want equality but cant take equality .
Analyzing Male Slavery yes
She should have double the sentence. Multiply it for each chin she has.
The death penalty, man? 😉
Holy shit u talking like 420 years
not by the hairs of her chinny chin chin.
Bruh she would not get out ever
Our justice system is so broken. I hope he sues everyone involved.
Where women are concerned - its in the western world entirely
Scary, men aren't safe anywhere, you stare at something at a distance and accidentally stare at a young woman because she crossed your view. Now she's mad and calling you a pervert and accusing you of sexual assault. This is getting too ridiculous again the justice system fails again and again.
This is why I wear a bodycam and sunglasses near women.
2 months? SUE HER ASS OFF.
KM4ZCU on weekends
she doesn't even look ashamed of herself. This is unbelievable
Why would she. She gets to go to jail when she is available for them on weekends. If not she goes to her regular engagements. She’s a woman, that’s how the world works 😂
She should be ashamed at who she is ...a big fat double chin liar....Carolyn Byrant.
My heart goes out to men falsely accused. I will always withhold my judgement.
She gets 2 months and the man gets 4½ years and $90,000 ... that does not even begin to pay for his pain 😪😪
this isn't justice! horrible!!!
Wesa Zazoo yes man ora horrible that they believe these women without any evidence. I am in something like this right now. It’s horrible
Where are the feminists when liars like this woman appear? This is what justice looks like in America.
russelljohnson2008 I'm here, hello.
Hello Helena, what moves would you suggest for the equal rights in criminal accountability? Lighter sentences for women is nothing new, do you think it's about time we put an end to giving women the kids gloves?
Some will comment but no actions, such as protest or petition, will be made.
jar head John, don't you think we should start treating guys like this one I'm responding to without kiddy gloves too? I mean, he can't even organize his own protests and petitions.
By the way, in response to what measures should be taking, exactly that. Do what I do. When you see yourselves thrown under the bus, go there and protest, goddammit. Women receiving shorter sentences is another sign of inequality and every one of those that falls. So, in this case (sentence length) you are the marginalized group and you should definitely do something. I fully support this cause, will sign a reasonable petition and go to a protest if it's in my area. But you have to get your asses moving instead of sitting there complaining.
I wouuldn't call it loaded, it puts the ball in your court and asks for your opinions. I also acknowledge that we give women lighter sentences, which has the drawbacks of inspiring more repeat offenders among women because they know the justice system has extremely soft fangs reserved for them, especially if they're pregnant, like the one who ran over a mail man and got six months. That's the kid gloves I'm talking about, not some random nobody who is mean to you on the internet. That's just life. People yell random things at me from cars about once a week. The guys that might be mean to you may be black, and I assure you, black men are not treated by kids gloves by the law system.
she needs to be in jail for 20 years
Why did the court find him guilty if it was a “she said, he said” situation. That shouldn’t be enough to send someone to jail
I'm guessing they were messing around at the time and when she accused him they took a semen sample and the rest is history.
@@TeslaEmperor That doesn't make it any better. There's still literally no proof and it's still a he said she said thing. Nobody should be able to go to jail just because their partner changed their mind AFTER the fact and that's not valid proof. Better a guilty man go free than an innocent one rotting in jail. The guilty man can always be caught and jailed later and monitored closely but the innocent man can never get his life back.
He may have only spent 4 years in jail but it's the prime years of his life and he misses out on 4 years of school, what's his option for schooling now, sit in class with middle schoolers when he's supposed to be a senior? Those allegations are always going to follow him around, people will always doubt and second guess if he actually did it, not exactly a good idea to put him in class with "kids" and he will be bullied in school, maybe not 'purposefully' but people will gossip and stare and start a million rumors. People do not recover from allegations like that meanwhile she'll spend 2 months in a cushy jail cell allowed to go free on weekends, basically just getting to skip school and she'll be met with comments like "you go girl" while getting patted on the back for "doing the right thing". The double standards are real; male victims don't even get justice when they have all the proof in support of them, women only need their word.
@@DrakeOola I agree with you one hundred percent. I was just pointing out that it was just that easy for her to win the case at the time unfortunately.
"He was in physical jail but I was in jail in my mind"
lol, GTFO. He should sue her.
And I'm sure he will.
I find it sick you can convict someone only on the word of a person who could just as easily be lying as the very person they are accusing with no evidence.
More to this story than being told.
@@tmo4330 you trying to justify her bs
Wow
@@nemesis8604 Nope. There is just more to this story than we are told. Why did the judge go so easy on her? Something isn't right.
@@tmo4330 the judge didn’t go easy perjury, you can’t get much time for it
#BelieveAllWomen #MeToo! 🥴🥴🥴
Are you kidding me? 2 months?! This man lost years of his life. And their concern is that this will give the wrong impression about coming forward with the truth? Absolutely ridiculous
2 months and only has to stay in jail at the weekends.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.g
Welcome to female privilege.
Why is she not sentenced with the same time- it’s not “generous “ that she came forward. We are adults once we are 18. What a horrible woman.
only 90 thousand... very small sum for that time
Nathan Bowles should be Payed for 4 years full employment, no lunchbreaks, weekends, hours off, plus a scholarship or whatever his dreams and plans were about
Less than 20k a year. >.< my fucking sides.
That poor god damn man.
Although that was only what she had to pay. The state of Virginia on the other hand, had to fork over $175000 to him.
She doesnt have to pay that to him, thats not how criminal justice system works inukun. Nowhere did I read the state paying out 175k more either.
"Innocent until proven guilty"
Proof = Someone said he did it
Jury: "Beyond a reasonable doubt he did it!!"
This woman ruined this innocent man’s life. Despite being proven innocent and the girl being exposed to the liar, there are still gonna be people out there who are going to look at him as a monster.
She should be in jail for the rest of her life
She ruins it for every person who comes forward and says that they were sexually assaulted….. Thanks a lot lady.
It does NOT make it harder for them to be believed. If lying women were punished properly there would be less, and it would be EASIER for victims to be believed
What's scarier than the false accusation is the fact that apparently the accusation alone was enough to put this man in prison. Whatever happened to the burden to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt??
"I live in a prison in my mind." welp that's good enough it sounds like you've served your sentence. BTW I've been practicing medicine for 8 years in my mind, so please call me Doctor.
Dr demrupees
"Sounds good to me"- Patrick from spongebob
Why would he ever go to jail if it's just his words against her words? Isnt it "beyond reasonable doubt"?
People like this make girls who actually go though this their trauma harder, it makes people not believe them. This is disgusting. Poor guy
It does NOT make it harder for them to be believed. If lying women were punished properly there would be less, and it would be EASIER for victims to be believed
2 months of weekends at home?!! and 90K. Let's assume this guy was making 30K a year before being jailed, that still adds up to at least 150K in lost wages. What about the emotional and physical distress this guy suffered because of her lie? Does he get no restitution for his suffering and courage?
Bottom line: stay single, and in ANY interaction with women always assume she is lying scum and protect yourself accordingly
Do not forget his mom commit suicide because of her lie. That should be a murder charge right there.
his mother did not commit suicide..
Bruce Kirk will you be my career counselor? They're pressuring me at work to pick someone, and you seem like a swell guy!
She should be wide open for a civil case, and he should sue the courts as well. They owe him way more than 90k.
Virginia gave him $175000 for what he had gone through.
She needs 4.5 years time served 250k for wages lost and 1.5mil for damages.
The judge should be thrown in prison with the liar for double the years sentenced to the innocent victim!
Still not enough. She needs to work in a coal mine as a prisoner for the rest of her life and all 'earned' wages go to him.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.b
I have no words. It seems like the one that lied on him was more worried about his life than the ones that's supposed to protect us. No faith in the justice system
Are we gonna talk about the fact that you can spend 5 years in prison *for a crime that never even occurred?* What actual, tangible evidence was the DA relying on???
I’m actually sick because of this, here’s a list why:
1: The guy got convicted with no proof, no rape kit, no witnesses, nothing.
2: It takes the woman 4 years to admit that she lied, 4 years is a high school lifetime.
3: The woman was convicted and sentenced to 2 months in jail, only served on weekends.
I actually want to throw up or something, this makes me sick to my stomach how she got such a light sentence when a guy was falsely serving 4 years in prison.
What the f- 2 months as in 60 days of jail time total or 2 months worth of weekends so literally only 16 days spread out over 2 months???
@@DrakeOola - No, it’s two months in jail which can be served during the weekends. 60 days in jail.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man they could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.g
_Edit 2/20/23: corrected voice dictation from the word “the“ to “you“._
@@iMatti00 Or maybe we can stop sending men to jail based solely on the words of worthless 304s. Some concrete evidence would be nice. You say that like she did him a favor. 304s are going to accuse the wrong one some day and it will backfire with the loss of thier pathetic lives and I fully condone it. I will raise money to get these men the best lawyers so they can have the best shot at beating murder charges.
@@iMatti00 its just unfortunate how the justice system works. If it was true justice, i wouldve given her 4 years, but yeah i see what you mean
"There is no reason to hit a woman." Yeah... right.
FALCON PUNCH!
Ray Rice style.
I wouldn't hit a woman.
But i have exceptions.
Bro ill straight drop kick a woman she tries to pull that bullshite on me
One punch man
And this shows the level of contempt the state has for men.
So I'm curious what evidence other than Coats' testimony was heard at trial?
So he serves 4.5 years behind bars, knowing the truth and wasting away ... She lives her life freely with an 'eat shit' grin, and confesses 4 years later when she's good and ready.
Everyone then agrees that she " deserves some credit " for coming forward and telling the truth 4 years later, and she gets two months punishment.......... Wow. OK. If that's the price you pay for ruining someone's life, I have some candidates in mind.
American justice at its best.
Didn't you listen... she is the actual victim here!
All that pressure from keeping that lie alive destroyed her!
@@Yishaiification no she wasn't, the victim was Johnathan C. Montgomery.
In prison. rapist (doesn't matter if it was falsely accused) have higher chance of getting beat up or kill by inmates, so she risk his life for some laughs.
what would happen if Johnathan C. Montgomery die whiles in prison
Fuck tell me about it,... My blood is boiling just watching this videos.
And she only has to pay $90,000 for his 4.5 years in prison?
At make that for every year the guy innocently spent in jail.
@@Yishaiification pleaseee be joking
makes me feel phisicaly sick seeing injustice. : (
to be honest im surprised she even got 2 months of jail time. Usually, these false female accusers never have any consequences
People think because they’re sorry that it erases everything! I’m shocked that she got a slap on the wrist! Unreal
This not only shows that men are treated unfairly in the court system, but it also makes it difficult for women who are actually being abused.
It does NOT make it harder for them to be believed. If lying women were punished properly there would be less, and it would be EASIER for victims to be believed
1:30 that is the most half assed apology i've ever seen.
2 months to serve on weekends? Shameful justice system. If you call it justice.
That tank that rolled up to the camera accused a human being of rape? This has got to be a joke! Hahaha
This happens all day, and everyday in child custody cases as well.
I'm glad she came forward. I have to wonder if there was negotiation behind closed doors about her sentence. I've never heard anything like it. The "time" she will serve is a joke, and the restitution works out to only $18,000 a year for every year he served in prison. Doesn't seem right. I'll tell you what...she MUST have faith...because if I were the judge, I would literally have to see Christ standing next to her in court to offer less than ten years in prison for her crime!
No youre lucky if you can even get one day out of the justice system, for false accusation. Some women takes advantage of this and I was accused after i ended a relationship, it was hell on campus until i got her to admit the lie. This believe all women crap ruins lives, and its Especially women partaking in this
Yeah great… her words were beyond disgusting and manipulative and she should have been laughed out of that court room and into a jail cell for AT LEAST as much time as he served. She’s a danger to all men she comes into contact with
But it doesn’t seem like you’re that grateful that she came forward, because you wanna make sure no other woman who falsely accuses a guy ever comes forward again if she has to serve that much prison time. It might be fair, but it doesn’t equal OVERALL justice.
@@iMatti00 How about throwing the book at her to prevent other’s like her from falsely accusing an innocent person in the first place.
@iMATTi00,. We are ALL so grateful for her lying and after FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, she finally recants her statement. We are so grateful that we are ALL going to throw a celebration at your house. Then she can thank YOU privately. Let us know how that works out for you. Gratification is a wonderful thing.
Elizabeth Coast should be sentenced to his entire seven year sentence. Don’t give me this ‘what will my family think’? That you are a crappy human being, for lying or for ruining an innocent man’s life? Credit for coming forward? Why did she lie in the first place? 2 months on weekends only? How is that punishing Coast?
Be aware of this chick
I've been the a victim of the same thing after being married to a womana for over 26 plus years and six children later. A wife who physically beat up all our male sons in front of our other children by kicking and punching them in front of school officials. A wife who has been having a sexual affair with her male cousin throughout our while marriage. As soon as I finally confronted her about in front of the children she didn't deny it but goes outside and calls the police on me with a false rape accusation.
Sorry that happened bro, how did it all end, was she criminally charged?
She needs to go to jail for the same amount of years or even double the years that he lost. Also any person that makes a false allegation towards any innocent person plus restitution & all legal fees should get sentenced as well.
👩⚖️ ~ The judge made the right sentence. Do you want the next guy to never get out of prison because the next woman (aka Amber Heard) that falsely accused him is unwilling to come forward? I guess that’s what you want. Punishing this woman may feel like justice, but it does nothing for any other men who are falsely accused. Had this woman been caught by police, then give her five years or more in prison. But she came forward when she didn’t have to. Nobody suspected she was lying. If this woman is crucified the you doom the next man that could get out of prison because the woman comes forward voluntarily. So which is more important, vengeance or overall justice.p
@@iMatti00By chance are you a Democrat because you don't seem to get it.
Yet, if you even question someone claiming to be raped, people criticize you for "victim blaming."
"How dare you question the truthfulness of this traumatized woman?!"
"Because sometimes bitches be lying."
I think everyone realises that false rape accusations should carry equal prison times as the sentences given for a guilty verdict.
She should be locked up for four years as well.
The biggest question here is why was he sentenced in the first place?
Because hes a men thats the sad truth the law is against us
How does he actually go to jail with no evidence?
stupid jury.
Women play the pity card pretty damn well. And I find it absolutely sickening.
Is that what this crazy broad gets for sending an innocent man to prison for close to 5 years? That's really protecting the rest of us from similar injustice!
unless she is serving 4.5 years in prison, justice has not been served.
the moment i saw her I knew he was an innocent man....
Hopefully she will have a civil suit against her for ruining this man's life !!!
I will never understand why anyone would want to destroy an innocent person’s life.
Not having similar sentences between false accusations and the sentencing of these (were they true) INCENTIVICES lying and decietful people to perpetrate in their endeavours. Why? Simply because it is as such being told to them, that they can do harm and get away with it. This impunity needs to stop!
I thought people were innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Since that's the case how did an innocent man end up being convicted and sent to prison for that length of time if they weren't able to prove him guilty since he was innocent and now have to rely on a lying victim confessing to a lie? "The System is a joke" Smh.
@EMANUEL, It happens more times than we know. Sad, so very sad.
They should have gave her the same sentence that he was given. This is ridiculous.
The sad fact is that people can go to prison without any real evidence of a crime is the real problem.
He did 4 years for a lie she only had to do 2 months for...???
Edit: 4.5
doesn’t that send a message that you can falsely accuse someone of rape and make them serve 5 years or more in prison in exchange for (in the worst case) two months of weekends in jail? There are tons of women out there who hate their exes so much they would take that deal in heartbeat.
You damn skippy!
What if i tell you that i would take it any day of the week .
No, it doesn’t send that message whatsoever. Because if a woman really wanted to send a guy to prison as vengeance or revenge, she would just do it and she would never confess. How often do you see a woman come forward admit that she falsely accuse the guy? Virtually never. Only time it’s ever possible is if she gets caught and she’s afraid of the consequences so she goes ahead and admits guilt. But who just comes forward completely on their own? Basically nobody.
@@iMatti00 Because the justice system is a joke and enabled this deceitful behavior. But it sends a strong message that if ever you try to falsely accuse a man and you get caught you'll be dealt with severely.
@@georgenuamah2424- But you have it backwards. This woman was not caught. That’s the difference. If someone is caught lying, then a severe punishment is more than warranted. But if someone comes forward to clear someone’s name, and you punish them severely, nobody will ever come forward again.
Think about all the other men that might be in prisons due to lies! It't good she got off ez in the way that more might come out and admit lies so the innocent men can get out. But fucking hell still the guys life got ruined cos of a single lie sickens me any human can do this...
i doubt it. The people that did this are clearly ethically/morally compromised and broken in the head. They will not ruin their own lives and come out even for the light sentencing.
ImAnderZEL no it isn't good she got off easy
It's actually fucking terrible she got off "ez". You realize sociopaths make such decisions based on the risk, right? So if they see that they can ruin someone's life without consequence that's pretty much a green light.
hey a youtuber I watch also likes to rage about bullshit on the internet!
no...any woman can do this
Are you serious!??just 2 months!?!? She should get 10 years!!!
Think back where you were four and half years ago. Now imagine all of it in prison with REAL criminals.
"Patriarchy" "Male privilege"
Hopefully someone gives us some real justice with her.
the guy who she accused, would be an ideal candidate. would they believe her the second time?
This is the worst judge ever!!!
That big pasty looking sasquatch just wishes someone would be wanting her.
She just fucking sat there with a smile. "Oh I know I sent a man to prison for 4 years and literally ruined his entire life, but I was in prison in my mind, is that not a worse fate?"
She (if she even was) a prisoner in her feeble mind is inexcusable. She has bought this upon herself, this is of her own making here. Now, to add insult to injury, now serves a mere two months after this poor man serves 4-5 years for a crime he didn't commit. This says a lot about this so called justice system. Feminism at its best.
@@rome79735 Yeah but tHe gEnDeR pAy gAP... Speaks miles when she can smile after ruining an innocent mans life and only get a slap on the wrist while being patted on the back for "doing the right thing"
No, I don’t think she really sit there with a smile. A lot of people smile when they’re nervous. Often when I am crying or about to cry I smile or try to make a little joke to stop myself. Even in the most dire situations. And you could also just be misreading her.
judge probably awarded such a SMALL sum of money because of the "wage gap"
Disgusting. Happens far more often than people realize.
Never show leniency towards a liar, especially if that liar ruined another humans life. 2 months isn't equitable to the 4 years this innocent young man had to serve.
Imagine if that was your son. And this is the "justice" You receive.
It wouldn’t feel like justice in one way, but another way it would absolutely feel like justice. I would be grateful to this woman. She never had to come forward and my son would’ve served out the rest of his prison sentence, if it wasn’t already over, and he would live the rest of his life classified as a predator and never be able to go to college or have a good career and would always be looked at as horrible.
And also you would never really know if your son was innocent or not. I think a lot of parents would say they know their son is innocent, but that’s a lie. They may feel it in their mind, but they’re wrong. Many people commit other crimes and their family never sees it coming. I always think about dateline specials (Or whatever) when they say they never even had a cross their mind and their family member committed a crime or murder, and I always think that’s ridiculous. Anybody is able to do anything. If someone said my grandmother committed murder currently or when she was younger, I would know it could be possible. Anybody is capable of anything, might not be likely but it is possible. So you would never really know if your son was innocent or if he was lying and going to the grave with his lie.
"Before you get sentenced, what would you like to say to Jonathan?"
*Smirk/eyeroll*
Queue rehearsed bs response.
I think that says it all right there.
like she got cheating on a spelling test.
90k for 5 years who in their right mind would think that’s a good deal. This man was r@ped by the system
Her lawyer said it would be a wrong signal to punish her hard. This sentence DOES send the wrong signal: do whatever you want, you will not be held accountable. He spent 4.5 years, she should have gotten 9 to sent the right signal: "dont fucking lie to ruin someone else's life".
lmao serve on weekends like its a fucking summer job in high school
GIVE HER 10 YEARS!!!
This is disgusting. How about the guy that was sent to prison for 4 years?
that judge is DISGUSTING 2 months vs 4 years??!!!!!!
Her and her lawyer should do 4 years+
"She has to make a restitution of $90,000." That's it. This guy better sue. What a terrible, terrible ruling, I hope that city gets rid of that judge.
Okay American justice system, a man lost almost 5 years of his life for a lie and she only pays 2 months and only on weekends...WTF???!!!😲🤯🤬😡😠
And, college professors tell us "women must be believed."
"My life was ruined by it." Lol, no it fucking wasn't. "I lived in a prison in my mind," don't even dare compare yourself to what he's endured.
disgusting. that life-ruining pig deserves at least 4 1/2 years in jail.
You have got to be kidding me!!!!! This man lost four years of his life while she is getting off easy?! She is serving a two month sentence and can serve it on the weekends only?! Boy, must be nice to be privileged.
I just had a false allegation upon me by my longtime gf.
She made two criminal allegations against me.
She had wrecked my car drunk.
We argued and then she said Im going to call the police and say you drove. (I had been drinking when she arrived in my smashed car)
As the argument ensued I asked her angrily to leave. "Get a cab and go!"
She said I'm not leaving. YOU ARE!
Matter of fact I'll call the cops and say you are abusive and violent and that you were driving.
"Who they going to believe? Me or you...!?"
While she was in her drunken fit. I had turned my cell camera on and recorded her diabolical plan.
I could have been removed from my own home... could have all my lawfully owned firearms taken. And ended up with a DUI.
Charge with assault as well...
I am now installing cameras in my home front and back yard.
Once they make an allegation put it in writing they are trapped into the Matter of which you will pay dearly...
Good on you for recording. I hate hearing about all the cases like these where the man is accused and doesn't record anything... If it's her word against his it's an auto loss for the man, as soon as you even have reason to believe they're going to go down that route record everything, every little scoff or argument no matter how minor. Women should document everything too but way more important for men...
We have cameras and audio recording devices in our pockets at all times, make it more common to use them... Even if you don't think you'll ever need it document it, if the relationship is looking rocky document every little mishap and if they start threatening things like that never go anywhere near them without recording it... I'd even go so far as to audio record intimate moments in case they try to claim foul play in bed too