DANGERS of spatial DISORIENTATION! Explained by CAPTAIN JOE
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00:00 Intro,
00:35 What is spatial disorientation
01:35 Flight Instruments
02:50 How do you get spatial disorientated?
04:08 The spinning simulator
06:08 Flying the SIM
06:41 Entering Graveyard Spin
08:16 Spin Recovery
09:15 Visual Illusion (Runway Width/Slant)
10:45 Go-Around Pitch up Sensation
11:46 Feelings after SD
13:24 Recommendations
14:24 Outro
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Dear friends and followers welcome back to my channel and to a video close to my heard, βSpatial disorientationβ. A topic many pilots underestimate! Luckily with the help of AMST, I was able to experience SD first hand in their simulator.
But first off, what is Spatial Disorientation (SD):
Spatial disorientation of an aviator is the inability to determine the attitude of the aircraft, meaning whether the craft is turning, ascending or descending. It is most critical at night or in poor weather, when there is no visible horizon, since vision is the dominant sense for orientation. The auditory system, vestibular system (within the inner ear), and proprioceptive system (sensory receptors located in the skin, muscles, tendons and joints) collectively work to coordinate movement with balance, and can also create illusory nonvisual sensations, resulting in spatial disorientation in the absence of strong visual cues.
But see for yourself on how to recover from SD in this video!
Thank you very much for your time! I hope you enjoy this video!
Wishing you all the best!
Your "Captain" Joe
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Captain Joe, my grandfather flew for 50 years. I found out later, he never had a license. He didnβt know to check for water in the fuel until I showed him when I was a student pilot. His instrument was a bolt hanging from a string. I tried to explain to him that their is no way that can be effective. He swore it was. It was a different era. I wonder how many other old farmers like him were the same.
That hanging bolt idea actually makes sense to me. It would show which direction is gravity - ie. the ground.
That's awesome
These videos are starting to seem like an impressively high budget operation. Joe is not only a world class pilot, but heβs quickly becoming a world class cinematographer as well. ππΌ
Thanks man! Means a lot!
Was just about to say the same. Joe has gone from using his whiteboard as the background with decent lighting and audio to this. What an improvement
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@@flywithcaptainjoe still waiting for a video about how you were wrong about the UPS tail stand in ICN. When will that come out?
@@flywithcaptainjoe What do the lights on the airplane next to the bathrooms and in the middle of the plane mean? The only colors Iβve seen are red, blue, and orange.
Not only as a pilots but also, when I was a passenger in a plane, I thought we were leveled and making a slight left turn, but my GPS was showing as making a right turn and the pilot was saying that were climbing out.
Not a pilot but I had this while scuba diving. I was surfacing and 20 feet underwater and suddenly it felt like I was moving sideways going 10 mph..yet I was in a calm lake. My eyes didn't show this but I felt it 100 percent as certain as you're feeling gravity. It was spooky and eye opening.
Wow, didnβt expect that during scuba diving
Kinda similar, but in reverse: Snowboarding in whiteout conditions. I stopped and bent down to tighten my straps. Looked up to discover I was going sideways at an appreciable speed.
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@@flywithcaptainjoe without instruments, in blackwater conditions always but also with good visibility you can be completely confused as to which way up is.
At least for up and down you can look at which way air bubbles are going, but if you don't have visual landmarks you can be in an extremely strong current and not notice. This can happen when surfacing from a deep dive where you can't see the ship while ascending.
@@HesderOleh That's why (if you're interested in penetrating a hulk in even moderately deep water, you bring along an extra reel or two, and tie off to the anchor chain or rope to your dive-boat/charter. Cave Divers have unique "Cookies" but if I recall correctly, Shipwreck explorers use a pinging or thumping flasher clipped onto their individual guide lines. EVERYBODY should use "arrows" that clip into the guideline and point the way back out, just in case you do drop the line, you can refind it, but you can also get turned around easily in a wreck. Everything is sideways or upside down and every which a way... The point is never lose sight of your guideline, and if conditions get dark or silty, KEEP your hands on it, whether you're working a reel, or someone else works the reel and you're the "dive buddy" following, slipping the line through fingers 100% might be tedious, but it beats the hell out of getting lost and stuck in a silted-out space with no idea what the f*** went wrong. ;o)
Wow, I didn't expect a simulator specially built to demonstrate SD. incredible.
I get students to experience this in the cockpit of any ordinary plane with ease (and without needing to put them in a spin). I have them fly into spatial disorientation themselves before having them then recover the moment they fly it into an unusual attitude. Works like a charm and really sinks home the fact they can't trust their feelings.
@@SoloRenegade Yes, very easy. Just have them close their eyes and keep flying for a few minutes β¦ or less.
@@LTVoyager I have them close their eyes, then I have them fly a combination of 3 left/right standard rate turns (of 90 or 180deg each, of what they think/feel is a standard rate turn).
Or, even easier, have them fly 1 left or right 180 standard rate turn followed by a 90deg standard rate turn in the opposite direction. Takes 30sec to 1min for the fluid to neutralize in the ear. after that, there is nothing they can do and they will fly into an unusual attitude, at which point I have them open their eyes and recover.
I have another method as well, but a sharp student will catch on if not done right, and it doesn't teach teh right lesson (it does teach a different lesson though). best to just let them fly into it as described above.
I did avoid flying into unusual attitudes when a DPE did the above to me during my Helicopter CFI checkride. but I used a sneaky trick to avoid losing control that is hard to do and describe (but not cheating at all). After many requested changes in direction and altitude he finally took over and flew me into an unusual attitude. He never asked and I never told him how I was doing it (and no, I was not peaking).
@@SoloRenegade Most days you donβt even have to maneuver, especially if there is a little turbulence. Just trying to fly straight and level will end up in an unusual attitude quickly enough.
@@LTVoyager yes, but I can't rely upon having turbulent weather on the day we do unusual attitudes. and it also doesn't sink the lesson home as effectively either.
As a non-pilot, ground dweller I didnβt understand how pilots could get disoriented in the air until I started watching aviation KRplusrs. This is the best explanation I have seen so far. You really did a great job of demonstrating the effect for us βpassengersβ. ππΌ
Question: when Iβm riding in a 737 and it feels like the plane is climbing or descending, is that whatβs actually happening or is my brain tricking me?
Not a pilot: in some situations probably (turbulence during otherwise straight and level flight).
I feel this most commonly with a change in flaps setting, where it is AFAIK not the case.
We humans have no way to feel speed, our vestibular system (inner ear) can only feel acceleration.
So after a while a continuous and constant speed climb feels like straight and level, if the flaps come up, the vertical velocity decreases without a change in aircraft attitude.
Our inner ear can only tell that there is a negative vertical acceleration, even though the net vertical velocity is still very much positive.
Similar during the approach, when the flaps come out the vertical velocity decreases (felt positive acceleration).
This was great, that look up at the cabin roof was great moment, excellent training, this would be excellent to experience as I work through Commercial License.
What exactly did that do when he looked up? Make everything look like it was spinning?
@@KiyokaMakibi most likely a sence of tumbling, very disoriented feeling. Once he acknowledged that he no longer felt the spinning, that was key to the instructor that the fluid in his inner ear had stabilized, a quick head movement would then cause the fluid to move. Had an instructor do similar with me. I closed my eyes, head down, he flew airplane and did different maneuvers then had me tilt head back, and side to side, then said recover, I was physically disoriented and felt like I was free falling and tumbling yet the airplane was back in level flight, no βrecoveryβ necessary. If I had listened to my body instead of trusting instruments, Iβd had pulled up and stalled. The fight to trust and interpret what my eyes saw was a struggle. After 20-30 seconds my brain stabilized its feeling and my senses returns to normal.
Thank you for posting this video! Great explanation and a lot of dedication for it! Appreciate the hard work you put in every video!π€π»π
I went to a place in Lake Wanaka, New Zealand called βPuzzle worldβ.
Basically it was a museum where you could experience optical illusions In an interesting or fun way.
The attraction that period my mind was a room that was tilted on a slope, 30 or 40Β° ,Yet all the furniture and elements in it were Built as though they were on a level horizon. This meant that inside the room you could watch water running βUphillβ And into a fountain. You could play snooker where the balls rolled Upill and stayed there, And you could Watch yourself in a mirror lean over With The soles of your feet flush with the floor
Everyone in the room was enjoying themselves and seemed in awe As they looked around but the whole time my head felt obscenely uncomfortable and swelling and heavy and like nothing Iβve ever experienced before. I had to get out almost straight away. I walked down the slope to the exit Which was an open doorway at the end of the room (You entered at the top of the slope via stairs). As I went to leave I saw that I would have to Step through that door frame and walk up a slope to get to the next area. I leaned my body weight into the slope and stepped out on the balls of my feetβ¦
It was, of course, Flat floor and I went for a nice face plant. On the plus side it didnβt take long for my head to pipe down again.
As I was instructed to do from the beginning and even now " Trust your instruments ". Great video , thank you
Outstanding video as always Joe!
Captain Joe, this was fantastic!! I understand what spatial disorientation is, and it is amazing that you now have an actual simulator to train for these situations. This was very interesting and educational! Thoroughly enjoyed your presentation of this danger to not just pilots (although it IS the focus of your channel), but can be applied to many different things. Thanks for this awesome presentation!! Looking forward to the next one!! Stay safe out/up there!! Cheers!! πββπ
Great video as always Joe! Some of your obs on landing went a bit over my head, but my takeaway was to realise that despite the huge technological capabilities of modern aircraft, there still has to be attention paid to the physiological quirks and natural responses of the human body. However, awareness of the various types of SD, and the applications of training in what to expect - and how to respond, can only be a good thing, and of great benefit to all pilots. Thank you for another super video!
Keep up the great work! These videos are so well done!
Hey Captain Joe, can you please make a video explaining the origin and, more importantly, how the three essential flight instruments and their physical mechanisms work when the aircraft experiences the same forces as the pilot flying.
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Thanks Joe for this very good explanation of how important it is not to underestimate spatial disorientation. π
It's when your inner ear overcomes your gut feeling that the trouble really begins. Excellent job!
Im so glad he covered this cuz this is one of the few things that terrifiy me when it comes to flying a plane
Your Videos and book are truly a blessing to the society-especially the aviation community. God bless you!
Valuable video about important stuff, thanks for sharing Joe. You are right, it is so easy to get disoriented, unfortunately lots pilots lost their lives flying into IMC conditions.
This was such a great video. Absolutely loved the concept. It is a great experience for you and for many learning Pilots to know their limits and always trust their instruments.
Just want to say how well done this video is!! Really feels like I'm watching a Netflix / Nat Geo series. Keep it up Joe!
Ich liebe alle Videos von Captain Joe. Sympatisch, kompetent und grandios prΓ€sentiert! Weiter so
Love Captain Joe heβs truly an amazing pilot ππ» thankyou for all your very informative videos ππ»β€οΈ
Great training device.
...Also known as the vomit sim.
Wonderful video, as always.
Fantastic video top work
What an incredible machine. Great video, thanks!
Great choice of videos. Very, very cool to see you going through the Sim training and to see what's available to supplement in aircraft IFR training.
Excellent! Such an impressive report! I am in envy feeling π
Watching these incredibly informative videos are a delight for flying enthusiasts like myself. Thanks Captain Joe
Very good instructional video. Keep up the good work.
I was twenty taking flight lessons had about 15 hours. I left the airport solo to practice some basic flight time. When I took off the weather was clear and VFR. Then quickly the smog from Detroit factories rolled in quickly. I couldnβt see the ground or much of anything. The Cessna 150 had basic instruments only. Then I remembered my flight instructor words he always said. Trust the planes instruments. Radioed for help. Tower gave me directions until they found me on radar. Then followed a twin engine plane back to the airport. The weather turn IFR and the pilot I was following guided me back. Follow your instruments.
Great video
Wow! Lucky you!
Great to see the IWC!
Although Iβm not a pilot, I can say one thing - you are a great teacher, Joe!
Greetings from π΅π±!
Great job Joe...I just came back from Zakynthos and I think this airport is a great challenge for every pilot
I just wanted to thank you for helping me as a very nervous passenger to have a mostly bearable flight
Thanks, Joe, I have passed my interview assessment also with the aid of your holding videos! All the best! Mirko
Once again another great video Joe, very educational! Especially when I want to be a pilot one day π€ I will. Iβm even going on a flying lesson in a Cessna 172 and practice flying the A320 in Microsoft Flight Simulator. I suppose getting my pilots licence in Spain or Portugal would be easier then battling the rainy stormy Ireland.
Thank you for this amazing video π
Quality video!! Thanks cap!
Its amazing what technology can do. Amazing video, Captain Joe!
Superbly done. Without having seen this post, this was also always my opinion (that the instruments do not lie). I have been doing flight simulation for 2 decades, and have shared this opinion with my father, who was a real flight instructor for sport aircraft / VFR. He always told me that there was a so-called "Vertigo effect", where you would lose complete control of the state in space in the clouds. I just said- "look at your instruments!!!
Beautiful just beautiful experience video Joe! You are going places with your flight channel, and thanks for this wonderful effort. That feeling of being in a simulator or an actual plane is unparalleled. I am just an intermediate guy using microsoft flight simulator, but I could relate to most of the illusions especially runway widths! Always trust your instruments.
Great vid! So informative.
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Best sponsored video ever! Not a pilot, although have been surprised and disoriented going to the flight deck (in old days!) and seeing the horizon all pitched over when I thought we were flying straight and level. There is a ground situation like this, called whiteout (also less severe thing called flat light) that you can get on snow. The ground totally blends into the the sky and it's very frightening. You lose all spatial orientation, and can even get sick. I had it when I was downhill snow skiing, foggy and snowing pretty well, low visibility. Luckily I was just off the lift, so not going fast yet. I was pretty much trapped at the top of the mountain, in a white envelope of weirdness, until conditions improved. I needed tinted goggles to give more contrast b/t ground and sky, but that day, I doubt anything would have worked. I've also had it while driving in a snowstorm, esp if no other cars or references.
As always Joe, an exceptional, professional and excellent presentation. What a brilliant new sim, I hope they spread like wildfire around the world and become a standard for pilot training. Wouldnβt that be brilliant, thanks for sharing this wonderful machine. Not sure if there are any down here in Australia yet but we can only hope and pray there are a lot soon and affordable so. Take care Joe, still wish youβd been my flight instructor but you were only a pup back then and Iβm as old as my hound dog but I still learn from you every day mate, thank you ππ
Thanks. Priceless info.
What an amazing video, congrats and Thanks !
Brilliant video! ππ
Always interested n informative...nice captain. Plz keep it continues
Superb video Joe!
Thank you for your video.this really help me as I am a studying for commercial license training
Thank you for this great material!!!
Can you make a material about Instrument Ration program?
That simulator is beautiful! I like how they solved the problem is connecting pneumatics by simply attaching air cylinders to the exterior. These engineers must be very pleased with their product! :)
Fantastic video. Thank you for not puking.
Really cool captain joe videos the explanations are very detailed and there is always knowledge to be gained in every captain joe video. Thanks Captain Joe. βοΈπ₯
Excellent informative video!!
Excellent video , learned so much !
Thank you for intersting video and the effects.
Great safety material. Thanks a lot.
The very start of the video is just amazing, it really feels like it's a 8k video!
Sunlight made the difference π
SD is so amazing that even not being a real pilot, flying into clouds in my home simulator feels like everything is swirling outside the airplane. The movement of the could shades is enough to get you lost.
Since I don't have a baseball bat let alone a golf club, I'll keep using my sim for that purpose.
Another Excellent Video, Captain Joe!!!!
Many years ago, United Airlines (I believe) sponsored a ride at Disney World that was a simple cart, being drawn through a series of dark rooms. Turning a corner into a totally darkened room, the occupants were faced with a spot light, pointing at them from behind a rotating, slotted disk.
The disk created rotating beams of light, like spokes in a wheel, and gave the strong sensation that the cart was on the verge of tipping over.
Then, the cart turned another corner, coming into a lighted room, with everybody gripping its hand rails for fear of falling out! The cart was still happily rolling along, flat/level on its tracks, just as it had from the beginning
I often wished I could make a treat of this simple, powerful experience for my friends to help explain just how strongly spatial disorientation can influence a pilot.
Thank You Again for Your Great Series of Videos!!!
Fascinant. Merci Joe pour tes vidΓ©os super intΓ©ressantes. Peux-tu continuer Γ lβavenir de les sous-titrer en franΓ§ais stp ππ». Ta diction est parfaite mais certains mots mβΓ©chappent.
I need to check out that rideπ
I wish you had more content on this. It's great to watch - I am a student pilot and going to start my night flying. Will be interesting figuring out how to land.
Fantastic video Captain Joe, this gives me something to think about in my flight training.
That was the point of this videoπ
@@flywithcaptainjoe Yes, and your presentation was very effective.
Such a great video!!!
People are smart, so they create helpful tools.
People are stupid when they think theyβre supreme in a way.
Great video! Hope you will get there again soon to create more of the parts we now missed π
Hey I recently did the SD test captain. And I did the same mistake of yours of leaning back. It's a great video and a good insight for lot's of young cadets like us. π
Thankyou for posting! Did a research with the earlier DISO model from AMST Systemtechnik, it was the PC6, and, that same (virtual)airport in Greece too! They sold the DISO, but, the research company did get hold of the DESDEMONA, hope to go back to them, and, have a go in that one, however, some people do get very sick in that version. Anyway, training in spatial disorientation should be made complementary in any flight training, it's just so important to undergo this basic type of training, the experience. The difference in real aviation is that one can walk away from it, the real spatial disorientation often leads to the worst possible outcome.
What a terrific video. This was enlightening. Thx
I really appreciate your content. I can tell you put a lot into it. As a non-pilot psychologist, I"m always interested in human factors, particularly where they intersect with command judgment. Training like this keeps us all humble and more aware of limitations for sure.
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Thank you for the video
Awesome video. Such important information. 40 years plus flying and God Bless those instruments tell me I am feeling something different from what is actually happening.
I've bees subscribed for almost 2-3 years since 2020 I guess. He's very impressive. Although I'm not a pilot and still a college student from different course. I still have a feeling that one day, this informations will help me a lot. Besides I'm an enthusiast. Hoping one day I can use it. Fly safe our captain.
That was a really good video. It is amazing how much you can learn from one video. I would be interested in reading that book you mentioned in this video, do you know where I can purchase one from? I really enjoy watching your videos.
Very informative vid, well presented as per usual.
It must be the most shaking sensation to experience this disconnect between your own perception and the actual attitude of the aircraft. Like guts trust issues. When I played in the sim on my PC I always found getting into situations where thereβs no way of having visual orientation quite thrilling. Also thanks for this video. The sbeeen was good.
Great video. This should be part of the instrument flight rating. Danke euch!
Very good and useful video, thank you!
Wow Joe what an amazing video, thank you very much and well done...πππ
Great watch, thanks!
Ps hey Joe, thanks, I love your book. Insightful, concise and easy to follow, great job mate, thank you ππ
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Fantastic video. Important content.
Looks like I need to train in this simulator. Thanks for the video, Captain π
Youβll ever be my lifeβs guru. Thank you!
12:25 Blackhole Approach I've experienced while trying to land at night on a short narrow with almost no runway lights. Almost killed the landing gear.
Great video!
Capt.Joe just great videos ...thank you ....
that sensation you got when looking at the ceiling in the spin, I got doing unusual attitudes during Helicopter CFI checkride. It was a very intense sensation I got. Happy to say I recovered perfectly and just ignored everything I was feeling and trusted my instruments 100% no matter what.
I know exactly how to induce this sensation in an actual airplane with ease on demand, and without putting the plane or pilots at risk. Just have to understand human biology and manipulate it.
Thatβs interesting. How do you induce it?
Absolutely amazing! Excellent tips for all Category of pilots great video Captain Joe you should start a flight school in future years πππΊπΈ
Amazing and very interesting video!
Joe, I thought I was on the training myself. You are a very talented instructor.
Fascinating!
Everything was great, but Joe spinning around the pole was HILARIOUS!!!
Very interesting topic & demonstration. Thank you.
Many thanks Sir.
5:15 I was flying as a passenger last week and I also had like the feeling that the plane was turning to the right but when i looked outside we were still going straight forward.
Is this the same effect?
A Helpful & Thrilling Video
Thanks Allot Joe
Very True Though Spatial Disorientation does still lead to some Air Disastersπ©π©π©π©π©.