EXO's CHEN on his New album, Life pattern, Disappearing things in Life | GET REAL S3 Ep. #13
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- ๊ฒ์์ผ 2024. 04. 27.
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0:00 - Intro
2:37 - What is your MBTI?
5:45 - Letโs meet CHEN and his career
12:32 - CHENโs third mini album โLast Sceneโ
17:44 - Do you have things that you use to have that disappeared?
22:32 - GET REAL AD
24:04 - CHEN talks about the genre โBalladโ
28:33 - Do you have a favorite season?
31:40 - Morning or night person? + Daily routine
38:25 - CHEN talks Kdrama OSTs
40:32 - CHEN shares an artist he would like to collaborate with
41:40 - Something you want to tell your past self or something you want to tell/hear from your future self
43:42 - Wrap up + Outro
Want to hear what CHEN of EXO has been up to? On this weekโs episode of Get Real, CHEN and the hosts discuss their daily routine and what CHEN looks forward to with his new album ๐ฅ
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we donโt get to see him this casual very often since he doesnโt have social media, thank you for this interview โก
and yes this world absolutely needs a Chen vlogging channel!
Yas Queen Andy!
Listen to @yep4andy, she is the president of EXO-L. She knows what sheโs talking about. ๐ค๐ผ
Yes our exols queen..
OMG YEP4ANDY!!!!
Shout out Andy! We def always love more Chen content.
I love how Chen acknowledges BTOB's vocals. Talent recognizing talent. The male vocal powerhouse groups in KPop. EXO๐คBTOB
I can see some BTOB's ballads being his style too. Imagine him and Eunkwang in a collabo ๐ฅ
That both awsome
But ARMYs dont hate EXO, however EXO-deLusional fans HATE BTS since 2013. Hahahaha
@@Julianna_w that would be the best thing
Maybe he can cover a BTOB song on his channel!! I really love their song "๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์ํ๋ค" (Missing You) ใ ใ ใ ใ
I think it's kind of nice that Chen got married and had kids like now personal life love life has become banned in the interviews and shows and now people are actually genuinely showing interest in his music. Music was his dream from the start of his career and I'm so proud that he is doing itโค๏ธ
I agree that music should be the focus but then it feels like an elephant in the room. Talking about his daily routine and completely skipping the fact that he has kids lol like getting up at 7 is not unusual when you have toddlers running around. Of course he doesn't have to mention his private life but I just hope it's his own (and his wife's) decision, not his company's.
@@mmoon8159 Lol i got your point. For me, it's the part where he talked about his daily routine, and then he said he does all of that alone....i frowned a little bit because it's just sounds weird. Like, i don't know if it's because of antis or maybe SM forbid him to talk about it, but him avoiding to talk about his partner to that extent is just a little bit weird for me. I also noticed that it can be antis's object to mock him more...like "he said he enjoyed being alone... it's hard to be a father of 2 isn't it?" I can imagine knetz comments would be like that lol.
@@daewakilat1842 I felt weird too. when she asked whether he's a morning person, I immediately said of course he's a morning person! He has a wife & baby๐ but suddenly he said about eating alone & so on em I'm just like whatt..... so it seems like talking about his wife & baby is still a taboo in kpop. I think it's bcs he have so many antis so he doesn't want to create any drama but I'm just sad bcs I really want to know about his life & how's he's been doing after getting married. but for his fans, getting updated about his music only is okay too I guessed.
@@user-we9dg8pu5s it's not like his fans us doesn't want to know about his married life it's just the point of focus will be changed
Even if one thing about his kids or wife comes out there will be so many articles and anti fan things but no traffic for music so it's kinda nice and okay to keep his personal life a taboo
Lol still after years he is getting hate tweets with 25k+likes from korean side, do you think he can openly talk about them , some fans now only consider him as a father(his whole personality to a father ) darling he is not in a western country or even in asian countries where celebs are openly welcome by their fans(majority of korean fans are delusional regarding idols ), whole purpose of discussion here is about himself his music ,he is someone who is very private about his personal life, ofcourse why ask the obvious things like toddlers & any other marriage life thing . He may open up more in future
Junny is literally fanboying quietly the entire time it's so cute ๐คฃ Uri Jongdae is a literal angel, as always ๐
I'm looking forward to their collab
notice how kind our Chen is, complimenting the hosts, asking questions back and showing genuine interest in each one of them. and ofc the hosts are all nice ppl and im happy he got to be here, smiling, talking honestly and comfortably.
One of the best vocalist in kpop; undisputable.
not one of but THEE best
NO LIES DETECTED ๐
@@R0lI Don't forget Kyuhyun, Sandeul, and Ryeowook exist! But yes, Chen is def one of the best in the industry :)
@@R0lI Exactly
@@Lunar254_ who & who ๐ญ im sorry idk any of those people
Chen is actually very nice - asking hosts questions, complementing people, and being humble about his own achievements. He has a very nice - kind and chill personality.
Junny's face when Chen said he wanted to work with him . He completely lit up and smiled. I hope that comes true it would be the most amazing collaboration. Chen is so talented I hope more exo members go on get real.
They should! It would be amazing!
He always been kind he not doing that because he is
He composed Suho, Kai, and Baekhyun songs before it won't be impossible for him to write for Chen too
I like Chen pays so much attention to whoever is talking
Like when he asked JUNNY a question he literally turned to face JUNNY and give him his full attention
Thanks dive studios for making my day today
Thank you Ashley JUNNY and PENIEL for making a good podcast
Speaks a lot to who he is as a person.
I like how he promoted this comeback. Chen indeed has pride in his music. Us, his fans, should be proud too. Thank you, Dive Studios. This is a great opportunity for Chen and Exo-Ls.
It's a loss that so many EXO-LS don't know this interview exist!!! I really enjoyed it a lot!! I love the way chen opened up on so many stuff we really got to know him better that's an experiences we would like to see him doing more often he's still the precious human being we knew 11 years ago so thankful for him please guys support his album as much as you can!
Let's share this!
@@dianemarie1243 we have to!
Chen had so much fun. He was surprised about itโs early ending. Hoping for a 2nd Chen episode
Yes pleaseee!!!
I really love Exo's effect to anyone during shows.. they either awkward, tense or very gentle.. Thank you for having Chen on your show..
Peniel is so effortlessly funny. I never thought jongdae is business minded discussing things like collab with junny and stock prices. Haha. Ashley is so sweet and such a mood. So cool and fun! ๐ฅฐ
I think most SM artists, when they get older like the mid-20s, they start to become more business minded :D
Like Chen owns a MALL! Also, I think that EXO is very business minded. They talk about Taxes and Buildings and Investments all the time. They do golf too
I've never listened to EXO as a baby KPop fan...but watching this made me a fan of Chen. He's a deep thinker and a thoughtful person and seems to be comfortable in his own skin. I'm excited to check out his album as well as EXO now. I look forward to checking out the future Chen x Junny collab, too!
So did you check their songs? Its their anniversary tomorrow so i was watching their interviews and found your comment.
it is a must to check them out they are one of the best artist out there believe me
Go check out their music, you will not regret it
I love how Chen tries to make everyone feel included by looking at every 3 MCs while talking
I'm out of words. I can't even write a proper comment to express how happy I am to see Chen in Get Real. ๐๐ญ
Me toooo
Ahhhhhhhhh
Ik what you mean same
Same!!!!!!!!!โค๏ธ!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not a fan of EXO but I enjoyed some of their songs a lot and Chen's parts was always in my favorites. It's so sad because of some so called fans have that crazy 'my idol must be single forever' thought he suffered a lot. He is an amazing singer I hope he continue to do whatever his heart wants.
Thank you for bringing our Chen! We as international fans are always waiting for him and news about him. I am so sad because Korean fans are just not appreciating how valuable our Chen is and banning him for nonsense.
Thank you so much for inviting Chen. You guys are the best. It was so good listening to all the talks about music, life as an artist and your personal experiences. Really happy to see Chen back again and actively promoting. Bless him and his little family๐ And Dive Studio, all the very best. We love you. We are one, Saranghajaโค๏ธ
Your comment is bringing me to tears. I am a part-time EXO-L LOL๐โค. Thank you for loving Chen and EXO. We are one, Saranghaja!!โค
This was unexpected! I didn't think I'd ever see an Exo feature on Dive, but I'm really appreciating how SM has sent a bunch of their artists already at this point, and now Chen! It's always so insightful, I'm incredibly grateful for this interview ^^
The amount of respect they have for him and this aura... The studio air felt different here. ๐ Power of EXO... So calm.... Reminds me alot of Choi Youngjae of Got7 so sweet and kind but at the same time chaos ๐
wow like chen and youngjae both are biases ๐
Thank you so much for having our sweet Chen. This album is amazing. Also fun fact: One of Suhoโs song โMade in Youโ was written by Junny :)
Chen has been through so much but hasn't lost that beautiful happy smile and quiet charm
I hope him and his wife and kids are doing great and are super happy today and forever
This platform is a showing Chen in a refreshing side...
Thank you Dive studios for the on depth you ask Chen, He's really comfortable talking about his passion in music, another glimpse of his beautiful personality....
Again, Chen's third album is out make sure listen, and feel the autumn break up vibe with it's last scene,.... Thank you Dive studios! Get Real!
One of the purest souls and kindhearted artist. We love and support you, Jongdae. Thank you for all you've given us!
Chen is so polite, I have only seen him in his element with the EXO members.
Junny x Chen would be a hit! Junny was clearly overjoyed when Chen mentioned he would like to collab with him.
to say iโm happy for Chen would be a complete understatement. he IS glowing and thriving as he starts this new chapter of life & I hope he knows his aeris are here to support every step of the way. truly wishing him, his wife, and babies ALL the best!!!!
I was really surprised to see Chen in the thumbnail. This is so good. Never expected to see an EXO member that to Chen in get real. Chen is my favourite vocalist. He doesnโt have to sing he can make me cry just by his words โค๏ธ
Thanks alot for this warm episode.
I got goosebumps when Chen started singing rolling in the deep. Thank you for having Chen & making this episode so fun
Iโm not an exo-l but i support Chen!Fighting chen, there are fans still supporting uโ We love talented people..
EXO and BTOB are the vocal kings of kpop. Okay let me listen to the podcast now haha
EXO, BTOB, 2AM
shinee, suju, exo, 2am, and btob have always been considered the top vocal groups, even if not all of the top vocalists are represented there
In knowing bros exo episode, he says that his philosophy in life is that he wont regret the things the he chose to do and in this show he also said it again (42:56). I stan the right man. We're very proud of you! I know you're happy with all your choices in life and as your fan, I am always here to support you. Continue living your life. We love you chen!
Omg Iโm so happy Get Real invited Chen, I feel the hosts and format was perfect and shown Chenโs personality and charm so well. Also Chen singing Rolling in the deep suddenlyโฆ aghh so so good! I hope he can return as a guest for an episodes where he can share his opinions on a topic, he seems to respond so naturally to everyone and is comfortable to share his views
for someone who had EXO as my first bg ult way back in 2014 and now has BTOB as my ult. I'm so happy to see Chen and Peniel interacting a lot in this video. They just keep on complimenting each others' group and I'm like please go on y'all are super talented๐ญ
probably the most real interview hes gotten without the whats your type and aegyo bs kind of questions. i love a good sit down interview where EXO can be real and where he can finally say thank you for 2M on his youtube channel without it feeling too weird. He also did so great that it didnt feel awkward at all, even though this is their first time meeting. So proud of you Jong-Dae
I can listen to Chen talks all day his voice sounds so calming and therapeutic
I love the bickering and teasing atmosphere of Junny, Ashley, and Peniel... it seems comfortable for the guests, like you're at a family friend's house and are getting to know the "siblings"
Being a baby ExoL I got to know so many new information about Chen and I absolutely enjoyed this interview!! I feel like I got little closer to Chen after watching this. Thank you Dive studios!๐
Welcome to the fandom! We suffer a lot lol but weโre also very strong and united in showing love to our boys ๐
IS THIS A DREAM??? MORE EXO MEMBERS PLEASE
Chen is so attentive towards the hosts, asking them questions as well & making the conversations more interactive. I love how their conversations flow smoothly from one topic to another. Watching this podcast makes me admire Chen more as an artist and as a person. It's good to be able to listen to his thoughts & experience. Ashley, Peniel & Junny did really well too with their questions to Chen & their bickering! Lol! Anyway, I'm looking forward to Junny X Chen!
6:07 The way he said 'Mandarin'? I'm obsessed
Iโm a newer kpop fan, I didnโt know a lot about him. He is such a humble and calm, yet charismatic person.
Listen to all other groups and main vocals too.
You will see a clear picture on who sings the best.
I explored in this way only a year back.
Listen to everyone before settling at one group/person.
I love his voice the most.
that's CHEN. he is acknowledged and known by his members and friends for being an angel, the humble and kindest man
Listen to his new album last scene all songs are very different from each other . I think there must be some song you like . He is definitely one of a kind as a person , well every member called he is the kindest .
try listen"Drop That" by EXO (Chen's grup), his highnote in this song So Damn Good โค๏ธโ๐ฅโค๏ธโ๐ฅโค๏ธโ๐ฅ
Watch "beautiful Goodbye" by Chen.EXO ... and if you have more time check out more EXO member solo or group albums. I hope you have a great day tomorrow
chen is still the best ballad singer of his generation. period. he's so humble and so eloquent.๐ฅฐ๐ฅฐ๐ฅฐ
I can relate to Chen's words about time disappearing so much! Like I think I can fit five things in a day, like I used to, but now it's like I did just two things and it's already time to go to sleep!
Chen is the rarest Jewel you can find in the whole music industry
King he is! Kim Jongdae the KING!
Chen is the most humble person the kpop industry could ever have!
i seriously love get real for having Chen come on to the show and being able to just freely speak. especially with how the past has treated him cuz of his love life, itโs so great to finally see him again without worry. itโs so relaxing and comforting.
I can see junny was so giddy and has so much respect to our chen, i cant be more happy and proud of both of them. Im looking forward for Junny x chen too, thank you junny, ashley and peniel too for inviting our angel chen ๐
Chen is humble and human. A good person and an amazing professional, we love you Jongdae โก
Still can't believe I'm finally seeing jongdae on my fave podcast thank you for the lovely surprise drop on a friday morning!!
When Chen is explaining about this album "last scene" my heart ached a lot because we all know what happened
But I hope he knows that we(exols) will always be there for him.
What happened ๐ถ
@@justynakrygiel9169 it is just that when he got married and decided to start his own beautiful family, some fans aren't happy about it and turned their back on him so it felt like its a song/album about them
Who dumped him n broke up with him but he won't force his own feeling on him so he's still waiting for them to love him again at their own speed-(the lyrics)
I personally feel that way so...I just wanna tear up hearing the song n the lyrics๐ญ๐ญ
@@justynakrygiel9169 those cruel fans left him and Exo, they've boycotted Exo, like Exo's sales were so high a few years back but now, even there seasons greeting sales are low cuz the fans refuse to buy it cuz of chen and chanyeol (another petty scandal caused by antis) many fans left after they felt betrayed (๐คขbtw feels gross, did they imagine that Exo will marry them??), it affected the the fandom and the fandom grew small cuz of that. Years ago Exo-ls dominated every award show, venue or charts but now the fandom isn't as strong as it use to be. I remember collecting free votes and downloading every music show app for them.
@@justtosuffer4604 chanyeolโs scandal is not petty and youโre weird af for pretending their situations are comparable
@@justtosuffer4604 EXO as a whole group didn't have activities recently. They goes individual activities. So like, ofc public response would be different between EXO as a whole and per member. I bet if they comeback as EXO, it would still sale well. I admit though that the fandom didn't as big as it's used to be, but that just cause time change, k-world change, peoples that hate Chen and leave EXO just a few from a whole. And I believe that EXO-L is still a whole alot of them in this world. Alot of peoples love EXO, we are one.
42:02 Chen got his members, his family, and us, his fans. I love you so much Chen, EXO L till my other life
3rd gen idols homecoming feels like. It's refreshing to see EXO with other idols esp with 3rd gen. These days it seems hard to see them together.
Thank you Dive studio for having Chen.
Chen's voice is just so perfect! One of the best vocals in the industry indeed!
14:33 The way Jongdae says 'Director fighting'. So cute ใ ใ
He's always thinking about staff
Dive, you have no idea how grateful and happy I am right now. It's unbelievable that Chen was with Ash, Peniel, and Junny. Simply put, I was ecstatic! As an exo-l, I sincerely hope that other members will soon be able to visit as guests as well. Thank you, Dive Studios!
Chen is so handsome like ๐ณ๐ณ๐ณ
Thank you for inviting Chen! I really never thought Iโd ever see an EXO member on Get Real but thank you for making it happen!
Thank you for all the kindness and for inviting him!! We're proud & wishing you always the best Chen ๐ค
I want baekhyun on this show๐ขโค and chen's vocals are mind blowing as alwaysโค
I love Chen, he is really sweet and smart person, I love this kind of interview when we can see this side of them, more open and real. My EXO-L heart is very proud.
Omg!! Finally Chen!!! Having him and Peniel conversing in one show is everything! Love how they both compliment each other's groups constantly lol sweet boys
And a collab with Junny!?!? Yes please!
This episode felt so short ๐ข I hope more SM artists can come
Ikr....their groups debuted so close to one another, they go back such a long way and had their own successes so seeing the both of them here feels like a mini reunion of sorts ๐
Seriously, If ever I got a chance to talk to with any EXO members I will choose Chen it just that thereโs something inside his mind that you wonโt expect he will say. Congrats on your 3rd mini album Chen! We canโt wait to see OT9 on stage!! ๐๐๐ Thank you Dive for showing us another side of Jongdae ๐ฅณ๐๐ฅณ๐
My angel Chennie is so sweet. Thank you for interviewing him. I watch this video whenever I need to see him and seek his comfort. He has such a sweet healing aura. Iโm always by your side Kim Jongdae.
Chen saying that he wants to tell his past self to not live alone and that he used to be stubborn is so relatable to me :") And it's inspiring that he said he's still working on it, also how there might be other things to fix that he doesn't know yet. So humble โค๏ธ
Our precious Chen! Heโs the kindest and sweetest person, and such a talented man! His album is one of a kind, and Iโm glad he gets to promote in a show meant for international fans. Thank you Dive Studios for inviting him.
Oooh my freakin' gosh... I literally had a dream about Chen's visit in Dive Studios. Finally Chen is back and we're here to support baby ๐คฉ๐โจ #exol
@@rain_11 that person is referring to Chen not his actual baby
@@rain_11 what are you even talking about lol. I've never mentioned that
@King S thank you ๐คฉโจ
@@l..6231 Exactly! ๐คฉโจ
Thats why EXO-deLusional fans want to him to leave HAHAHA CRAZY FANS . WE ARE ONE WE ARE ONE!??? HAHAHA EXO-L osers who hate BTS since 2013 hahahaha
So happy that Iโm seeing Chen everywhere these days๐ฅน๐ซถ
Sometimes its so surreal to me that this dude is a dad of 2, he is such a calm guy and i KNOW he wants to be a good example for his kids
His mind, his words, the aura, he is so comforting and interesting at the same time.
I'm glad Chen came to this event and laughed together. always be happy Chen, we support you
This is honestly unexpected I never felt like he would do a podcast like get real but itโs good to see him get more candid about his work and talk a little bit on a personal level
it felt so nice to hear Chen talk like this after so long! I kind of wish Chen would speak about his new family, not that he has to, I just think it would be lovely to hear about how things have changed for him
He is there to promote his album, besides that he has always been private in relation to his personal life so that now he is saying it, and if in the future he wants to tell us something, I know his private life very well, but if he does not want to tell us, no we should always be asking him about that
@@andreaandrade415 i believe, or at least I hope, what she wanted to say is that would be lovely that he feel free to speak about his actual life experiences in a show that is about that. He might always wanted to remain private, but with what antis did, we might never know if that's what he wanted or what he feel was okay. Either way, you're right about the first part, this interview is about his album and that's the focal point.
wait this was such a sweet and wholesome episode :') jongdae is really such a genuine guy, also such a talented vocalist, and I love that we got to know more about him through this interview! especially since he's more reserved and private! also can't wait for this CHEN x junny collab haha
Chen is a great singer, really talented. The Good thing about going to Dive Studios ( like Peniel said) it's that You really don't need to prepare for difficult tasks, it's just like talking with your Friends on how You've being doing.
OMG...Chen seems so nervous here...he kept adjusting his sleeves and the repeating movement of his hands...but he did so well!!!...CONGRATULATIONS on your 3rd Album!!!
To Dive Studio :
Thank you for having Chen on your show. Get Real such a Delight show. If there's chance we want more EXO member in this show.
Top vocalist of 3rd generation K-pop. Love you Chen.
Thanks Dive Studios for inviting Jongdae! Such podcasts are perfect for him. EXO and BTOB debuted just weeks apart from each other so it's great to see some interaction here ๐
I loved seeing how Jongdae opened up more and started asking more questions about halfway through ๐ญ๐ Iโm so happy to see him getting opportunities to promote and for people so see how talented and kind the exo members are in casual settings like this, too ๐ฅบ i feel like in the past few weeks weโve gotten so much more exo content and Iโm so thankful ๐
Chen made me so happy when he chose Junny to collab with, like I got teary-eyed literally! HAHAHA so proud of Junny
Please have more exo members in the future and thanks for having our Chen๐
Love how Ashley and Peniel are always encouraging Junny that he does well (as mc or musician) โฅ๏ธ
EXO-BTOB interaction โก i look forward to JUNNY writing for EXO โ my heart is full โก
Thank you for inviting jongdae ๐ I'm so happy to see jongdae ๐ฅบ
I found CHEN by watching a reactor. And immediately grabbed all his solo work and am listening to it on repeat.
Traveler and I Donโt Even Mind are my FAVORITES!!! So good!!
Love you CHEN!!
Dive studios did it again๐๐ฝthanks for bringing out Chen๐ฅฐ
Really enjoyed this video. Lovinโ the interactions between the hosts and with Chen. You can also see how humble and kind hearted Chen is even he is the nationโs vocalist and how he compliments the hosts that he even do research before this interview. Also, love him singing parts of Adele song. Looking forward for him to do a full version or maybe a collab with Adele itself. That will be powerful ๐ซถ we love you Chen and thanks to Dive Studios for this wonderful interview for Chen
Impossible to see our precious Chen and not smile right away, his so talented and humble.
Thank you Chen and Dive studio for this pleasant present...... My smile didn't despair at least for 1 sec while watching the whole video....my heart feel so much warm and I m so happy while listening to this video...Chen , Your voice is really heaven ....!!!
He was so serious! I'm glad they made him feel comfortable, and I'm glad that Peniel's bright energy make him laugh a few times and loosen up.
Junny x Chen - I'M READY
ั ะฝะธะบะพะณะดะฐ ะฝะต ะพะถะธะดะฐะปะฐ ัะฒะธะดะตัั EXO ะฒ ััะพะผ ะฟะพะดะบะฐััะต, ะพัะพะฑะตะฝะฝะพ ะงะตะฝะฐ. ัะฟะฐัะธะฑะพ ะฑะพะปััะพะต, ั ะดะพ ัะธั ะฟะพั ะฝะต ะผะพะณั ะฟะพะฒะตัะธัั, ััะพ ะผั ะฟะพะปััะฐะตะผ ะบะพะฝัะตะฝั ะพั ัะบัะพ. ะพะฝะธ ัะฐะบ ะดะพะปะณะพ ะฑัะปะธ ะฒ ะทะฐัะธััะต, ััะพ ะดะพ ัะธั ะฟะพั ะดัะผะฐั ะฐ ััะพ ัะตะฐะปัะฝะพ, ะฐ ัะฐะทะฒะต ะผะพะถะฝะพ ะฑัะปะพ ะฒะพั ัะฐะบ???
I love CHEN. He's a very humble & talented artist. #EXOL
Thank you so much for treating so well our beautiful Chen, for asking him real and deep questions. Your program was so well!!! I really loved, you make it so easy going.
Our CHEN CHEN CHEN KIM JONG DAE, you already know we love you, but it was so mesmerizing to watch and listen to your thoughts about albums, life in general.
Loved this episode and I hope we can have more EXO members in your program. Thank you again guys
Chen and Peniel, BTOB x EXO crumbs ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ thank you for this episode! I really enjoy it!
No doubt he's been my favorite ever since EXO's debut
as a MELODY and EXOL i really happy to see this interaction๐ฅบ๐ plus i really love to hear dive studio podcast ๐
Ikr....we need more members from both sides on this podcast
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVITING CHEN ON GET REAL!!