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- 게시일 2022. 01. 05.
- Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)
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Storyline: An augmented human and Sarah Connor must stop an advanced liquid Terminator from hunting down a young girl, whose fate is critical to the human race.
Director: Tim Miller
Writers: James Cameron (story by) & Charles H. Eglee (story by) & Josh Friedman (story by) and David S. Goyer (story by) & Justin Rhodes (story by), David S. Goyer (screenplay by) & Justin Rhodes (screenplay by) and Billy Ray (screenplay by)
Cast: Mackenzie Davis (Grace), Linda Hamilton (Sarah Connor), Arnold Schwarzenegger (T-800 / Carl), Gabriel Luna (Gabriel / REV-9), Natalia Reyes (Dani Ramos)
Production Companies:
Paramount Pictures (present)
Skydance Media (present) (a Lightstorm Entertainment/Skydance production)
Twentieth Century Fox (present)
Tencent Pictures (in association with)
TSG Entertainment (in association with)
Lightstorm Entertainment (a Lightstorm Entertainment/Skydance production)
Ministry of Finance of Spain (with the participation of) (as Ministerio de Hacienda)
Instituto de la Cinematografia y de las Artes Audiovisuales (with the participation of) (as ICAA)
Ministerio de Cultura (with the participation of)
Hungarian National Film Fund (with the participation of)
Mid Atlantic Films
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She saved her son from the T-800 and the T-1000. But she couldn’t save him from James Cameron
cameron was just the producer. And who wouldnt want some more cash on a franchise they created. The fault is the writers
@@ratulhasan165 well, producer has full responsability and decision power
James Cameron absolutely did not sign off on this. It made his first two films not only pointless, but undercut them and made them worthless.
Couldn't save him from woke ideology
@@Bobby.2000 isn’t that a fact.
All you Animators that worked on this... Great work!!
All you writers... What the hell were you thinking?
Must be so frustrating to work on something like this with such terrible direction and writing
@@Jurassicparkatmospheres meh. as long as the pay is good, they'll do anything. (not hating on them, just a fact of life) besides, its always cool to show off your name in the end credits to others.
Lies again? RU DEAF BLIND
Should’ve asked everyone involved the second question
Looks like The Adventures of Tintin from 2011
That terminator killed five movies with one shot
Well said 😂
Two shots technically
The Second one was to make sure
😂😂😂😂😂
Wish he caught him after T2 and then that was it lol
This movie makes Terminator 3 look like a masterpiece.
I said that for years after Genesys in 2015 was made fun of and told to be quiet. This movie hits and all of the sudden I’m getting apologies left and right 🤦♂️
Terminator 3 is the only Terminator movie (after the second one) which had enough critical and box succes to justify a sequel, Salvation, Genesys and Dark Fate failed in that.
@Crypto Arnold looks great compared to the last 3
@Crypto Arnold 20 years????
What was it like in horse and carriage times?
People have rose-tinted memories of T3. It was - and still is - the weakest of the franchise. Unlike Salvation, it tries nothing new. The action sequences in both Genysis and Dark Fate are both surely better than in ROTM? All the sequels made plot mistakes but to say that ANYTHING makes T3 look like a masterpiece is going a bit far!
The more of these Terminator movies come out, the more I find myself praising Salvation.
Hahaha it’s ironic how Salvation became the cinematic equivalent of a “John Connor” amongst now all the T films to come
Even 3 ain't bad compared to today's standards
Salvation has always been a joy to watch. Sure it's no T1 or T2, but for what it offered it was always enjoyable. Minus the cgi Arnold......
Salvation is actually great, you can consider it to be the tale on how the apocalyptic future was without so many plot holes like the rest or the terminator movies after judgment day had.
Thought Salvation was good.. I saw it when it came out, and didn't really understand the hate for it!
James Cameron destroyed his own saga with just this scene. For those who do not know, the idea of killing John Connor and replacing with someone else him was his.
It's a shame that the two previous films were about saving John and in this one which is a direct sequel to T2 it is no longer important to save John
He destroyed it so that no one could ever reach the success he had with the terminator franchise
Yeah I think he sabotaged Dark Fate in order to preserve the reputation of T1 and T2. With each subsequent sequel, the Terminator franchise was becoming an absolute laughing stock.
This is why people shouldn't blame TIM MILLER
He was the director, not the writer
#SecondChance4TimMiller
@@Zombiesnyder13 he's a leftist feminist who said if you're not a fan of this movie you're a misogynist.
I still can't get over the fact that this is James Cameron's idea...
#SecondChance4TimMiller
Wow
@@Zombiesnyder13 from a dream
Me too
Who's dat
whats most impressive about the terminator films (1&2) is that no matter how many bad sequels there are, they still stand ALONE and as one of the greatest sets of action films ever made. every sequel to terminator is a reminder of how good the first two are.
@CarthFan2005 I think that the upcoming terminator game should let us play on both sides of the war . There should be two campaigns , one for the resistance and one for skynet , terminator resistance was awesome and probably the best terminator game so far , I would like for the next game , we play as Kyle or John ,for the human campaign . For the skynet campaign , we’ve already played as the T800 , so the next step would be to let us play as the T1000 , just my opinion , let me know your thoughts .
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2 IS the bad sequel lil bro 😂
@@sirchris6047 really, it is literally same kind of sequel that 3, 4, 5 and 6 were (and tv show). Completely ruining original self contained story and the Why just in order to make any ground for its story.
This is how I always thought a terminator would kill someone. Not some fancy entry letting the person know they are coming, but catching the person off guard and escaping as soon as the mission is done.
Too bad it killed the series along with John but yea
Basically when protagonists lose their plot armor, tho I can get the frustration from the old fans
@@TheTber123 According to most fans it was already dead. 😅
It is much more efficient when they throw people around though
He’s just waking away not much of an escape 😂
This fan made clip is so well done.
I'm glad this isn't considered cannon in any way.....
Is this the moment Hitler freaks out now when Steiner says it actually is cannon? 😂
its in the movie fuqbot
@@monkadelic13hes being sarcastic shit for brains
Terminator Objective :
- kill John Connor.
- go swimming.
😎 ✌
Do drapes
Well deserved
@@Chickenworm9394
???
Profit
New Objective: Get a Mojito
The franchise truly did have a dark fate
It’s funny how Cameron always criticized Fincher for needlessly killing Newt and Hicks in Alien 3 because “the audience had invested so much in those characters” and 30 years later he did the exact same thing.
John Connor kid was the most annoying little shit in the media until people remember they need to be boomers and bitch about new movies.
Now he is some sort of national treasure, apparently.
It's not the same thing.
They could have done more to hicks and newt, so to kill them off, and so unceremoniously, is understandable why James and many others were upset.
Killing John,however, wasn't a bad idea though. First, it's not like this is the first time it happened. John died in the films before. In 3 and Genisys. Secondly, there was nothing else that could be done with John's character. We saw him accept his destiny (3), meet and save his father(salvation), and become the villain(Genisys). What else could they do with his character? This was a bold choice and made this a much fresher entry as a result.
@@NeoConnor1 You make some good points but I go back to “it’s not what the audience wanted to see” and the box office receipts back that up. For me the series ended after T2 anyway.
@@Narrate918 cameron didnt write this or direct. He just produced the movie
@@jundean5292 He received a story credit and Tim Miller has said on multiple occasions that Cameron was heavily involved in the writing process.
When I first watched the opening scene I literally thought it was a lost segment from T2. It looked so real!
This is best CGI mo-cap scene I have ever seen, especially revisiting a younger form of the characters/actors. I am beyond impressed. I also really liked that they kept continuity by also featuring a scar on her upper left shoulder from her injury in T2.
The first and last good shot of this trainwreck aka tim Miller's disaster-piece
#SecondChance4TimMiller
It doesn't look that real in my opinion. CGI is still pretty noticeable, but compared to the CGI of Arnie from Terminator Salvation it's vast improvement.
Me to. Obviously Linda doesn't look like that no more
I still don't understand how a genius like james Cameron could destroy something so iconic....why james, why?
Girlpower bruh, duh
@@clydefrog203 John Connor looks the same age in 1998 as he did in the 1991 Terminator 2, so this scene where John is killed makes absolutely no sense, not even in an alternate timeline. There's no Girlpower if the movie has no logic..
@truelove11.11 lol well yes its stupid, but they needed John out of the way to make that teen girl the "savior" and of course that butch girl to play the Kyle Reese type character
You can tell who this film is marketed towards: the movie starts in Guatemala, the female terminator arrives in Mexico City, the girl that they're protecting is Latina and on top of all of that the villain Terminator is also Latinx 😂
@@truelove11.11T2 was set in 1995. So it could've been late '95. If this is early '98 that's only about 2 years difference and I think he does look a little older here.
If I wanna be angry I come back and watch this scene
Want to enjoy the Terminator series? Watch The Terminator, watch Terminator 2: Judgement Day, play Terminator: Resistance, say “hasta la vista” to the rest.
@Crystal Sapien Same with Terminator Salvation
Well dark fate did do an "hasta la vista" to the future sequels.
No. I play Resistance first, then watch The Terminator, then Terminator 2: Judgment Day and finally Terminator: Dark Fate.
The people that say only watch the first two and ignore the rest always come across as pathetic man children.
A man of supreme intelligence.
The first 90 seconds of the movie was absolutely intriguing, it was the moment where i'm like "okay this movie looks good" then comes the John Connor scene.....
You can tell who this film is marketed towards: the movie starts in Guatemala, the female terminator arrives in Mexico City, the girl that they're protecting is Latina and on top of all of that the villain Terminator is also Latinx 😂
@@uuuultra - They did have Sarah's weapons base down in Mexico. And they've been in both California & Texas ... so, across the border makes some sense. But anyway, I liked the change.
This is how to give the middle finger to the fans of your franchise.
This scene is a "Fuck you!" to the fans who loved Terminator 2: Judgement day.
Funny. I love T2. I love this movie. I don't feel offended. At all.
@@NeoConnor1 Exactly, same here. The franchise was already dead in the water, it took guts to do what they did and I’m not mad at them for it. I enjoyed this movie.
Bro just walked in and killed one of the most beloved characters worst mistake they did
At least nobody liked it and there's no sequels.
For 28 years, '90s grunge fringe John was one of the most annoying characters in movie history. Then one scene later: he's a national treasure
This is why terminator 3 and 4 deserve respect after this film and genisys
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@@imcallingjapan2178 puttanata... non è per niente vero
3:20 i remember when i watched this scene in the theatre, all my excitement & expectations towards this movie literally collapsed that I can proudly say, "i will never ever watch any terminator sequel again."
I'm glad I didn't see it back then, if I did then I would've been pissed
Just imagine if you show this movie in 90s
The moment when Terminator kills John would've shock everybody in theaters
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
John did both between Dark Fate and Genysis
That's a metaphor for them killing the franchise
HAHAHA yepp
More like terminated the franchise
All the old ones r the exact same movie
Honestly, this just makes me think they could make a sequel with a CG young terminator easily.
Just that scene took months to look as good as it did a whole movie would take years lol
@@clarkkent6249 avatar 2 took years. So why not?
Если бы Джеймс Кэмерон захотел, он бы сделал это, и эта часть однозначно стала бы легендарной как и первые две. Просто Джеймс Кэмерон не был в этом заинтересован.
Clark Kent tech will get do much better and very soon I think. Eventually we may get to legit see films made using completely digital faces/likenesses in order to revisit old franchises and create another story set in a certain time. So a sequel to T2 with all that cast likenesses and perhaps a bit older but still recognisable to that film. There will still be need to cast new actors to be the body doubles in production so still plenty of work.
Thank goodness Terminator: Resistance saved the franchise thanks to the game Devs who put their heart and soul into the game, unlike this movie.
Yeh
It was a nice surprise. I hope we get more good Terminator games like Resistance.
Investors: Cameron you said you'll make it great?
Cameron: I lied.
Huh this Terminator must have played on easy mode.
The entire movie is easy mode, toddler mode in fact lol
T1 & T2 were the best. The rest are just cash grab.
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It’s insane. They could literally do a whole movie like this, and have Arnold and Edward furlong long add in voices. The bodybuilders body looks very similar to 91 Arnold
Why did you add furlong and then long? It's just Edward Furlong.
Why add Arnold's voice? That looks nothing like him!
John Connor looks the same age in this scene which is supposedly 1998, as he did in the 1991 Terminator 2, so this scene where John is killed makes absolutely no sense, not even in an alternate timeline.
The bodybuilder looks too fake steroid
@@truelove11.11 T2 was in 1995. So the age difference is not too big there. Do take note, John was born in 1985, and in 1998 he is 13 or 14 at most, which is the age of edward furlong when he played John in T2. Technically the problem should be in T2, Edward did look abit too old for 10 years old.
The gun barely moves while holding it with one hand, insane detail of the T-800's strenght.
It's easier with blanks. Or CGI, which after the "Rust" incident, will become the norm.
True....I always thought Cameron missed an opportunity in T1 in a similar manner. When the Terminator unloads his gun into Sarah's roommate and the first Sarah Connor, his eyes close when he fires the gun. That's a human neurological response to the loud noise. It would have been cool, and created a feeling with the audience that "something is odd, here" if he fired without blinking. At the time of those two shootings, the audience still didn't know for sure he was a robot.
@@DarthTrader707 well he made sure patrick had those little details in t2. i remember an interview about how pat the T1000 hardly blinked if ever even when firing a gun
@@sigma80Well, yeah, blanks are how they did it in real life with the stunt guy (even a bodybuilder himself). But in story that’s a real shotgun round, and the T-800/Carl is a walking tank.
Full credit to the magnificent Robert Patrick for that one, was his idea to train himself so that he didn't blink whilst firing, and his running speed whilst chasing that dirt bike :O One of the best villains ever. @@banderas2000
Salvation is actually best sequel after T2
Thank you! It blows my mind all the hate "Salvation" gets. Actually, imo, "Salvation" was better than "T2". Hear me out...
The concept behind the original was a pure killing machine. "T2" had mind-blowing FX, great story--EVERYTHING...except making Arnold a joke of himself. Protector?! Not buyin' it. A more family-friendly CASH GRAB is more like it.
I also love how "Salvation" showed a post-apocalyptic world in DAY LIGHT and how it showed where Skynet got the idea for making the Terminators human-like.
I'm sure this thread will piss a LOT of people off. But--once again--it's just MY opinion.
The movie was basically over for me after this scene.
I wonder if anyone was watching this in the cinema and just walked out after this scene. I bet someone did.
It’s pretty impressive alienating your core audience less than 5 minutes into a movie that is intended to be apart of a beloved series.
If I would have seen this movie at the cinema, I would have gone out for the first time without having seen the end of a movie having seen this scene!
From T2 onwards, it seems that the Terminator's first objective is to get a pair of sunglasses. In the first film, the sunglasses were a solution to disguise his lost eye, which wouldve given away that it was not human. The other films it is just a fashion statement :)
I think in t2 he got the glasses so his eyes wouldn't tear up on the motorcycle.
And then later in Dark Fate, Carl is about to put on a pair of sunglasses before leaving his house to go once more into battle. Then he stops, looks at himself in the mirror for a second, and puts them back down - an assertion of his acquired humanity.
Until the end I was waiting for an unexpected appearance of John. I wanted to believe Sarah managed to find a way for hiding her son from the rest of Skynet's Terminators all those years. If John would have appeared at the final climax of the movie surprisely and saving the others or fighting again side by side with Sarah and the T-800... Wow! That'd have been an epic scene.
It didn't matter if he passes the baton of leader of the Resistance in that new future to the girl 'cause John have already defeated Skynet. He accomplished his destiny.
But it never happened so...Hasta la vista franchise.
I thought that too
John wasn't an "empowered woman", so that was never going to happen in this woke pile of crap.
@@redoz9768 how is this woke
@@andyspencer4786 if you can't see it, then there's no point in attempting to explain it.
Pretty hard for someone to be alive after two shells from a shotgun at point blank.
I remember when i entered in movie theater, the movie started, and right after that intro people started to complain, get up and leave the room.
No they didn’t.
@@Spacemutinyhow do you know ? Did you go to every movie theatre? 😂🤦♂️
@@CoolMikey81 because people don’t generally leave a movie in the first ten minutes after they’ve paid. I call BS
@@Spacemutiny I am with you on this one. I call complete B.S.
Remember the dream scenes from Terminator 1 where hordes of t-800's were stalking the resistance over wastelands strewn with human skulls, laser guns flashing everywhere, hunter killers flying around looking for survivors? That's the Terminator movie i wanted. Never got it.
They could still do it too, have it be a prequel to 1 where they get reese to the time machine, could he like saving private ryan but with terminators. Keep everything 80s and no bs new terminators
@@kylesawkon4074 bro its called terminator salvation lol wtf
That’s what salvation was supposed to be. We all know how that went..
@@APcraft747 nah they had some bs hybrid terminator for no reason
@@kylesawkon4074 Yep. Make it a horror film like T1. They're too dumb to ever do it though.
After blowing up Cyberdyne and Skynet, I think the idea of John Connor no longer being the human resistance leader logically makes sense, but everything they went through in the first two movies went completely out of the window when they killed him off in the opening scene.
This movie could have worked. Maybe if John encountered the REV-9 but they didn't kill him, he and Sarah figure out that because they stopped Skynet, a new AI would be after a new resistance leader in it's place, so they hunt the REV-9 down and try to figure out who the target is and who the future resistance leader is. And if John ends up dying, it would be in protecting the terminators target like Kyle Reese did, so his death wouldn't feel as much of a kick in the teeth as the one we got.
Now THAT would be a more original idea than what Dark Fate effectively is, a Terminator rip-off with Arnie and Linda in it.
I said on another T:DF video of this scene once how at the very least, I genuinely feel that Sarah and John's roles in the movie should have been reversed. My idea basically went:
-Sarah dies protecting John. COMPLETELY makes sense and in character. Throw in that Sarah, ironically if not albeit years too late to make a difference, is killed by an Arnold Terminator.
-They could have taken a playbook page from T3. In the years since witnessing Sarah's death while protecting him, John has since become a drifter, constantly traveling and never staying in any one place for long (wrongly after a point) believing Skynet and the Terminator were still after him. All the while he's living maybe a form of PTSD from what happened to Sarah and living in a world he has no real place in and that currently has no need for him in a present where Judgment Day should have happened years ago, but hasn't.
-Maybe John could have ended up working in the factory with Danni when the Rev-9 attacks where, much to his shock, the Rev-9 completely ignores him in favor of Danni. After helping out in the ensuing battle, there he finds out the (new) reality--he REALLY has no place in the world as "his" war against the Machines has been won--Skynet never exists, but a similar struggle still happens only this time the future has absolutely no idea who he is. He's officially no longer the one set to lead humanity against the Machines. His whole life has been prepped for something that (for him) no longer happens. He's an anchorless ship.
-However, he then finds a new place: not only protecting Danni, but helping her learn and adjust to the role he once "had". His new place could have been not only helping to protect Danni, but teaching her everything he knows that could help her in her future fight. This could have been yet another "has come full circle" thing for the movie like Sarah. John has basically become Sarah, Kyle Reese, and the T2 terminator rolled in one--a protector who knows about (to some degree) the future and what's to come and can teach Danni to prepare her. Plus? It becomes a sort of a "passing the torch" thing. Another nice little touch.
But no. We get a crappy "John dies in the first two minutes lol" move.
My point is though, I completely agree with you. Despite what I saw someone say on another video, there was so much (better) they could have done for the character.
I'm amazed that Arnie and Linda, the two original and iconic stars signed up for such a steaming mound of cow pat as this.
@@DeltaKnight i hate how every random person on youtube can conjure up an idea way better than people who got paid to do that
How to take an "OMG THIS IS AWESOME" scene only to have it turn into "OMG THIS SUCKS I WANT MY MONEY BACK" in under 5 seconds
very easy... look for a time machine and preach in the year 1991 that terminator 2 will be a great movie success, but people with no sense of cinematic plot will arrive and kill this legendary movie in 3 mins in the year 2019
All the old ones r the exact same movie
Yes
James Cameron made T1 and T2 too awesome that sequels just can't compete. Not even this one lol.
The cg young Sarah, John and Arnie are pretty good, but they hit the uncanny Valley pretty hard, still its impressive and I applaud their efforts!!!!...
#SecondChance4TimMiller
I forgot how hot LH was. Did not age well
@@nicholasmuro1742 On the contrary. She aged well, and became a much better actress, she was great in Defiance.
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I'm not doubting her acting ability. My comment was about her looks. I've read she's a heavy smoker, which I'm sure had a toll on her looks. Plus the Hollywood party scene. It shows. Her voice was very light in femine, now it's raspy and deeper. Idk what pics you've been looking at, but the ones I've seen she looks like crap. Way older than she is. Btw, that's not her in this scene either. A body double was used and her younger face was cgi'ed onto the double's face. Look at the arms. LH never had arms like that. Even when she was in shape for T2. She was much skinnier.
Whatever tho. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@@nicholasmuro1742 I dunno, Defiance was quite a few years ago, and I haven't seen this movie. She looked good a few years ago. I was aware that in this scene isn't her, and I even know they use Roland Kickinger nowadays as young Arnold.
It looked so real..Perfection.
#SecondChance4TimMiller
But it doesn't look anything like Arnie. Body shape and face is totally wrong. I thought it was a different actor until I heard it's supposed to be Arnie deepfaked.
Probably the best part of the movie from a cinematic standpoint
Visually yes a round of applause for the cgi people but like everyone is saying, wtf were they smoking back at the studio
Yeah surprisingly the CGI is good. All of them look exactly like they were in '91
Sadly, not from a narrative one
Yeah this was a head scratcher
Her: “That future never happened… Cause James Cameron stopped it”
Sarah Connor stopped judgment day in T2 by destroying Cyberdyne, That was the end. They should not have made more.
Actually the Skynet sending back the T-800 caused John Connor to be born.
So "Closing the Time Loop" in T2 was the correct result. By getting rid of Cyberdyne, it fixed the time paradox, with John as the only leftover from it.
One more person among billions probably won't make much change in time.
Indeed, if anything the only movie after T2 that was actually a good release was salvation, since it simply told the story of how the apocalyptic future of John Connor was before the events of T1 and it was actually a good movie, the rest of the movies are total garbage.
That opening was so promising.....just to fall into a nightmare worse than a nuclear war against the machines.
OH MY GOD You KILLED John COnnor You Bastard From SOuth park Reference.
the beginning of the opening is amazing. Wish they made dark fate a build up to this scene. In Dark Fate, skynet should of been a powerful corporation with so many advanced machines built and by the end of the film the machines are starting to go to war.
Say what you want about this movie, but this scene was the best I’ve seen in terms of recreating an old movie. The cgi was amazing. I couldn’t even tell the difference
The advancement of our technology is amazing indeed, and the dumbing down of script writing as well.
the CGI was amazing. They just used it poorly, they killed an incredible chance to carry on T1 and T2. You don't kill off Jon Connor like that, enough said
I saved myself the headache. The only terminator movie I skipped.
I honestly thought this movie was a lot better than the some of the other sequels, but it is pretty hard to get over how this scene just shits all over T2.
Terminator fans after seen this and Genesys: I guess I was rude with you
Terminator 3 and Salvation: 😥
I thought salvation was pretty good I probably rank it 3rd out of all the movies judgement day being first and the original being second. If anything Salvation was a good stand alone.
I remember walking out of the theatre right after this scene. $12 wasted
The movie truly lives up to its name...
Terminator dark fate
The dark fate of the Terminator franchise...
The move should've been named
TERMINATOR FRANCHISE : DARK FATE
I remember watching in the theater and seeing people walking out after this scene!!!!!
One person said "Man f this movie bro"!!!!!!!
This reminds me of jurrasic park 3 when the t rex got written off lol
This is like that special cutscene in a video game when you lose an easy boss battle and the game basically mocks you for it
This Terminator shows how easy to accomplish the mission which the earlier ones before him had failed.
Which raises the question why there wasn't a protector this time. Welp, the movie is bs anyway and doesn't care about plot holes.
Well yeah it's easy to kill your target when you don't have a shotgun slug going through your back just as your about to kill your target.
Sarah and John really thought it was over, because they’d destroyed Skynet. (This scene is set 1 year after Judgment Day was supposed to happen.) They had a false sense of security, not knowing that a Terminator could still be large and still operating on “orders from future that no longer existed.” And that mistake put Sarah on the road to drinking for the next 20-plus years, until she found a new purpose protecting Dani.
Decision that is long overdue. John is just an anomaly that has arisen on the timeline as a result of Kyle's arrival. The main character of the franchise is Sarah. This would indicate that it is not a single individual - John Connor - who must exist in order to defeat Skynet, but rather a human leader who understands that Skynet can be beaten and instills that belief in others.
Interesting viewpoint. The whole idea of John Connor is paradoxical in nature.
T-2 will forever be the best Terminator movie hands down. There is literally nowhere to go after this.
If you really look at it. After T3 we got 3 different timelines.
Terminator Salvation-a future where John Conner survives and leads the resistance
Terminator Genesys-a future where John Conner is the villain
Terminator Dark Fate- a future where John Conner doesn't exist
I actually think it's cool we got these 3 different films giving us opposite outcomes.
As a whole the Terminator series is excellent .
Or if
Terminator Genesys is alternate plot of 1st sequel of terminator franchise
And Terminator Dark Fate is alternate plot of the 2nd sequel of terminator franchise
T3 is an alternate timeline also. It conflicts with the themes and story from the first two movies. Tonally, it’s more of an action comedy.
T-800 was just mad because, towards the end of “Judgment Day”, he said I NEED A VACATION; no one listened…
Still makes no sense with this T800. In the 1st film we see the Terminator targets other potential Skynet threats like Sara’s family members. In T2 the good T800 even confirms when a Terminator looses its prime target or has completed killing its prime target it will target family members and other potential threats.
This therefore means this T800 should of naturally gone after Sarah after finishing John because Sara knowing the future would of been classed as a threat which can be confirmed with the liquid terminator going after Her in T2.
Not only that, they are supposed to either go into hibernation or seek assistance in self-termination after completing all of their mission parameters. It makes zero sense why Carl became a housewife?!?!?!
Persons related to the main target are only tactical targets for an easier approach.
you know... i like a lot this intro. the idea of a terminator finally doing a terminator things successfully is... good.
The worse part isn’t that someone wrote this script, the worse part is that someone READ the script and said “Yeah this is great, let’s make this movie” 😂😂😂😂
4:03 like.. Where is he going? lool
His people need him
James Cameron : this is sequel for Terminator 2.
Me : 3:23
Holy crap, I heard about all the T-800 surrounding this controversial opening, but I didn't realize it was actually this bad. Like, when I first heard that, I thought "oh okay! That could actually be an interesting direction to take it, like, the machines finally succeed in their mission to kill John! Like, we spend the opening 10-15 minutes getting re-acquainted with Sarah and John's lives after moving on from the averted future, only to get soul crushed when he dies--" nope. Like, they devote a mere 1 onscreen minute to rushing through this very significant plot point without even milking it for emotional impact or anything, just... Wow. Like, he doesn't even have a line of dialogue in this whole scene, then it's over. Wow.
They should have started pt3 with this and just full on bring us the Future War, with Sarah taking over John's role in the resitance.
I remember I went opening night to see this and literally 90% of the people walked out of the theater. That’s how bad of an idea this was.
😂 this didn't happen
And then every Terminator in the Skynet base clapped, and the T-850 danced to “Oppa Terminator Style”.
3:40 Here the terminator franchise is gone for good.
2023 here and i can't believe that in less than 2 minutes they killed all of Terminator history.
Dark Fate is the one Terminator I have not seen. And as a huge Terminator fan I am fine by it.
I don’t want to see another Terminator movie unless it retcons this and shows us the future war with John Connor
ever since i saw this scene, this has been my fantasy to edit this scene, would love this battle, fight setting. In the 90s, there was a Robocop vs Terminator crossover, comics published by Dark Horse, and video games for the SNES and Sega Genesis, have fond memories of those games.
I would love to see Robocop battle and protect John Connor during this opening scene.
Honestly that would've been cool or that another AI rises fighting skynet for control that it leads to nuclear war with humans caught in the middle between 2 evil AI's.
Basically, with the existence of this movie, and with John's death, that just means that Kyle Reese and the T-800's sacrifices were in vain. That they died for nothing.
"I have to stay functional until the mission is complete. Then it doesn't matter."
As terrible as John's death is, at least we finally see what becomes of a Terminator after it fulfils it's purpose.
@VHTesla If the latter, it probably wasn’t Alicia or Matteo, as Carl claimed they didn’t know his true nature
AFTER KILLING CONNOR TERMINATOR SITS DOWN AND HAS A PINA COLADA
FOR THE NEXT 120 YEARS
It would have been more interesting if it was the T-1000 of a different timeline that this happened to. They were meant to be more intelligent overall
@@imcallingjapan2178 - They already explored that in The Sarah Connor Chronicles, and it did a good job of portraying what exactly a killer robot would do if it assumed someone else's identity (multiple times, particularly with Catherine Weaver).
@VHTesla Well, if you go by the theatrical version of that scene, "My CPU is a neural-net processor, a learning computer. The more contact I have with humans, the more I learn."
But yeah, this movie definitely change things from T2.
The graphics here couldn’t get any better.
I know I'm watching this in slow motion, so does it just appear that John sees the Terminator walk towards him, gets a completely shocked look on his face, and Sarah just keeps smiling, seemingly oblivious to what's happening behind her?
After T2, the list of movies I pretend doesn't exist grows longer and longer. When will they realize that Terminator is a two movie thing?
Terminator just drops the gun, like it's The Godfather.
And that intro sequence on the beach has nothing - NOTHING - on the original 1991 intro sequence during 'the war.'
3:24 never noticed that the third bullet sarah shot hit the T800's right cheek resulting in a cut. It confused me on why did he got a cut out of nowhere.
no,you just missed
@@LynnQwQ You trying to be funny huh? You failed.
Yes it hit the alcohol glass on the bar
@@lhanzejaredcarpio6037 Look carefully, the third bullet hit Arnold's right cheek, then bounced to the bar, and this causes Arnold's head to tilt slightly to the left.
There's no way a Terminator would settle down and become a family man to make amends for terminating his target. Imagine if the original 1984 Terminator did that if he was successful in killing Sarah Connor.
it was a different time
the original terminator would probably join a biker club 😂
If they couldn't get Eddie furlong back then they should have moved the focus back to Sarah hunting the last of the terminators and then maybe she finds out about Kathryn Brewster and remembers John always had a crush on her because she was the only girl he could ever talk to in his early years before T2.
Savage Linda Hamilton!
Solid scene!
Say what you will but this intro gave me chills.
See! This is how you kill a franchise.
James Cameron "Ah let's just spit in the face of my first two masterpieces".
The whole movie should have been like this beginning, and it would have been a masterpiece.
I personally think the movie took some missteps, but I still think it was an enjoyable movie.
Say what you will about the movie as a whole, this scene is nonetheless the best example of face-swapping effects to date. 4 years in and it still looks pretty damn convincing. The fact that it's even shot in daylight makes it all the more impressive.
Nada mas eson
Ya que la pelicula no tiene buenos efectos
We should Send a terminator to prevent James Cameron from making this movie
I wouldn't mind an entire CGI movie if it's made like this , as long as we have the original cast doing the voice overs
You can tell who this film is marketed towards: the movie starts in Guatemala, the female terminator arrives in Mexico City, the girl that they're protecting is Latina and on top of all of that the villain Terminator is also Latinx 😂
This make T3 and Genesys looks like a Masterpiece
They still auck and as a hole dark fate is better than genesis but that opening alone is the worst scene in terminator history
To Jacob: true
I know that genesys hasn't the best story, but for me had a better context making John Connor the villian
When I see the name "terminator" I hear "I'll be back" in my head
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same
Same
Schwarznegger looks absolutely ripped in that shot! I wonder what kind of diet and fitness regime he was on!
Could you imagine if "Carl" just went up behind Sarah, stood there, and when she sees John's reaction of panic and terror, she turns around with her gun raised, only for Carl to say, "Sarah Connor. We must go, it is not safe here."
Then he raises his shotgun and shoots someone who looked to just be a background character walking around the bar, only for it to stand back up and warp (polymimetic alloy) into Robert Patrick or Kristanna Lokken.
Parallel timelines could easily have saved this movie -- it was mentioned in Genisys about nexus points, so the Rev-9 crossing over through a nexus point unintentionally, only to find itself up against Skynet terminators from a different timeline (e.g. T-850, a T-X) with objectives counter to its own would be hella interesting.
The T-850, "Carl" it'd named itself, looked down at Dani and Grace with a passive, unmoving expression. "Your survival assists in the completion of my objectives; the Rev-9 is an obstacle to the completion of my objectives, and it must be destroyed."
"And what objectives are those?" Grace's grip tightened around the steel bar, and she angled herself between the terminator and Dani, who peered around her frightfully.
"To ensure the survival of John Connor and Katherine Brewster; to prevent the creation of the Skynet Defence Program by Cyber-Research Systems."
"Skynet?" Grace looked between Sarah and Carl in utter bewilderment. "You mean Legion?"
"The artificial intelligence known as Legion does not exist in my database."
The Rev-9, being hyped up as the "most deadly terminator yet" *cough* suddenly being the underdog would've been a nice plot-twist and subversion.