With this machine, you'd just be dehydrating it. It's the same as the Pela/Lomi piece of junk, except with a subscription to post away your dried scraps.
I disagree. I'll admit that the emissions generated from the more frequent stops these vehicles have to make is somewhat negligible. But this product is using more watt hours just to badly compost your food. You would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see. Don't buy.
Awesome concept. Crazy pricing. No regular family can afford to pay that subscription or that $1k to purchase it. C’Mon Mill, let’s make it affordable to the general public.
Think about this thing. Its using energy, likely generated by some carbon dioxide producing method, to dry and compost your food waste. How is that Green? The amount of energy required is not trivial. And then, they suggest that the most efficient use of this, is to load it up on a truck and drive it back to a farm. Which admittedly is far less carbon intensive than the energy used to create it but still, this is a not well thought out concept. Many Kickstarter campaigns have tried this concept and they all have gone bust.
The ad said “What happens when leaders from Apple, Nest and Uber….” And yes, this very much sounds like those companies coming together to make something that works but is also so terribly backwards that it makes ZERO sense.
Apple is the inspiration for literally every startup's "design philosophy". Nest is basically just an Apple offshoot, and the Uber part I guess contributes the dysfunctional and unprofitable business model lol
When I first watched the video I thought I will pe paid for the product that the Mill produces overnight because it is using my electricity, then later realized I am charged per month :( We will seee how that business can succeeded..
The mill composter is a great idea if it does its thing with very low energy. But then shipping the compost off? Doesn't that obliterate any waste benefit by the waste of packaging and fuel for shipping? Personally, I just throw my food waste out for our chickens.
I thought the same thing, but I looked it up and they said they work with USPS to pick the compost up. Given that the postal service already makes their runs through the locations they pick up, that negates the emissions they would normally make if they did it on their own, plus the packaging is from 100% recycled materials for use, including the boxes they provide you when you sign up for it. It’s honestly kind of brilliant.
@@sirgusdaddyix4729 I disagree. I'll admit that the emissions generated from the more frequent stops these vehicles have to make is somewhat negligible. But this product is using more watt hours just to badly compost your food. You would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see.
Why ship it off lmao? Just use that shit for yourself. Why even buy one of these if you have no personal use for the compost yourself? Shit seems absolutely counterintuitive if you have no need for the conpost and are having mill pick it up. Thats what would make this a waste of effort to buy. (Being stupid about it)
i believe this is an even more expensive version of the kitchen composter. which doesnt actually compost food (btw proper composting actually just smells like dirt), but rather just bakes all the water out as the video states. the food stops rotting until it gets moist again
@@theshuman100 Compared to most composters I've seen this is at least half price or less. That is probably why they have to subsidize it with a subscription. This is a product for well meaning eco-nerds with more money than sense.
Think about this thing. Its using energy, likely generated by some carbon dioxide producing method, to dry and "compost" (it doesn't do a good job) your food waste. How is that Green? The amount of energy required is not trivial. And then, they suggest that the most efficient use of this, is to load it up on a truck and drive it back to a farm. Which admittedly is far less carbon intensive than the energy used to create it but still, this is a not well thought out concept. Many Kickstarter campaigns have tried this concept and they all have gone bust.
this creates pre-compost. menaing you can feed it to your plants but its not 100% compost. it can speed up the composting process quite a lot though, but if you live in an apartment, or a cold climate region, its great. if you have a farm, and are already composting, then this isnt really a product for you.
I just checked out your site, I was excited till I learned the only options to get one is either 29 or 49 dollars a month, I have no intention of renting a kitchen trash can, that is nuts. However I am looking into some of your competitors who are willing to sell me a trash can, that I can proudly call mine... all mine!
I disagree. This product is using more watt hours just to badly compost your food. You would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see. I wouldn't buy one.
I disagree. This product is using more watt hours just to badly compost your food, then ship it off and cause more (although less) emissions. You would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see.
Seems expensive for what’s effectively a bread machine. I bet there are more unwanted bread machines than there are people willing to pay $33 a month to post scraps to a farm. I don’t expect there’s much to the “secret process”.
I love it but that membership? I’m out. I’m sure it pays for great causes but that’s too much of a commitment. I mean, do I have to return the bin to cancel?!
Yeah, in any large population of people these days there is always bound to be one or two that would do such a thing, or mail their toxic waste in with it. What a stupid idea.
Yeah i want this lmao. I want to use the compost for plant food and mix it with my soil mediums. Absolutely it has a useful purpose if you aren't dumb about it and just buy it as a fancy trashcan lmao. Stupid comments i stg.
I'll stick to my trusty ol' composter that bakes everything to perfection in the South Texas sun. I thought this was an awesome concept when I heard about it... meh...not so much.
This product is using more watt hours just to badly compost food. People would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see.
WTF? You can't just buy the bin, you have to pay an outrageously high $33 monthly service fee?!!! Here's what they say is included: The food-recycling Mill kitchen bin Food Grounds pickups whenever you want Filters, repairs, and even bin replacement Detailed, personalized impact reports A dedicated support team of real people Other than the bin, I have absolutely no need for those other things. I would be happy to pay for filters when I need a new one. I actually want to KEEP the food grounds. Why would I give it to them for free, and let them make money off of it? They should be paying me for it! And it's just product. Why on earth would I want a support team or impact reports? That's just ridiculous.
Wow, I was looking it up just for the bin. It is a monthly service? Pass. I mean I think it is great for a school or small office project, but I am a backyard homesteader big pass.
It seems like a very bad idea to send your biomass through the mail to begin with - what a waste of energy to transport your trash? Also, with today's intrusive businesses selling customer info, who can tell what they can make of what you send them? Do you need to have a subscription for this? I like the idea of taking kitchen scraps and making compost out of them - that could be a valuable asset to me since I like to grow my own veggies. Are you required to send in your scraps? That just seems like one of the worst ideas I've heard of.
This is stupid, I promise you the energy wasted to boil off the extra water, grind it down, AND ship it is hurting the environment more than just tossing it in the garbage. Unreal.
Ok, like I get the idea, but can anything exist today without being a subscription? I refuse to pay more monthly BS. If you get my money, I get a product, not a temporary rental.
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If I’m composting it I’m keeping it
With this machine, you'd just be dehydrating it. It's the same as the Pela/Lomi piece of junk, except with a subscription to post away your dried scraps.
You don’t have to send it back
I disagree. I'll admit that the emissions generated from the more frequent stops these vehicles have to make is somewhat negligible. But this product is using more watt hours just to badly compost your food. You would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see. Don't buy.
Awesome concept. Crazy pricing. No regular family can afford to pay that subscription or that $1k to purchase it. C’Mon Mill, let’s make it affordable to the general public.
Think about this thing. Its using energy, likely generated by some carbon dioxide producing method, to dry and compost your food waste. How is that Green? The amount of energy required is not trivial. And then, they suggest that the most efficient use of this, is to load it up on a truck and drive it back to a farm. Which admittedly is far less carbon intensive than the energy used to create it but still, this is a not well thought out concept. Many Kickstarter campaigns have tried this concept and they all have gone bust.
How about you pay me for the scraps then we’ll talk
The ad said “What happens when leaders from Apple, Nest and Uber….” And yes, this very much sounds like those companies coming together to make something that works but is also so terribly backwards that it makes ZERO sense.
Apple is the inspiration for literally every startup's "design philosophy". Nest is basically just an Apple offshoot, and the Uber part I guess contributes the dysfunctional and unprofitable business model lol
$33 dollars a month for the privilege of mailing my trash to someone. incredible.
Their response to this conplaint is "you can always keep the scraps, we don't have to pick it up 😊" Gee, how generous. Then WHY THE SUBSCRIPTION
@@solarqueen2555 the whole model screams scam
What the hell.. there's a subscription?? I was about to say this is a cool ass idea.. for the trash can but you cant just buy the trash can ? 😂
@@_A_G_1You can buy the trash can. But then also have renting options.
@@_A_G_1 not necessarily. this comment is more reactionary than factual.
When I first watched the video I thought I will pe paid for the product that the Mill produces overnight because it is using my electricity, then later realized I am charged per month :(
We will seee how that business can succeeded..
Exactly, the consumer should be paid for the compost. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
Many companies have tried to do this EXACT same thing. They all have gone bust. This is just another in the line of grifters.
The mill composter is a great idea if it does its thing with very low energy. But then shipping the compost off? Doesn't that obliterate any waste benefit by the waste of packaging and fuel for shipping? Personally, I just throw my food waste out for our chickens.
I thought the same thing, but I looked it up and they said they work with USPS to pick the compost up. Given that the postal service already makes their runs through the locations they pick up, that negates the emissions they would normally make if they did it on their own, plus the packaging is from 100% recycled materials for use, including the boxes they provide you when you sign up for it. It’s honestly kind of brilliant.
@@sirgusdaddyix4729 I disagree. I'll admit that the emissions generated from the more frequent stops these vehicles have to make is somewhat negligible. But this product is using more watt hours just to badly compost your food. You would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see.
Why ship it off lmao? Just use that shit for yourself. Why even buy one of these if you have no personal use for the compost yourself? Shit seems absolutely counterintuitive if you have no need for the conpost and are having mill pick it up. Thats what would make this a waste of effort to buy. (Being stupid about it)
What’s the music?
Swan lake, Op.20: Act I
Give me a model that does the “secret secret” part at home since I have chickens…
😂😂😅
LOL if you have chickens why are you even here? :)
A product that goes right next to Juicero.
100%
Do they pay you for it?
Nope they charge you $45/mo, or $30/mo if its an annual plan. You pay monthly, and they pick up your scraps and give them to farmers.
@@solarqueen2555 seems like the costs could be more evenly distributed. Maybe the farmers could pay a little bit?
@@JustinR941 exactly. The business model is flawed.
I love the intentions but doesn't decomposing food smell and it takes time? I love the initiative though, good work
i believe this is an even more expensive version of the kitchen composter. which doesnt actually compost food (btw proper composting actually just smells like dirt), but rather just bakes all the water out as the video states. the food stops rotting until it gets moist again
For sure. I think the better invention ..wait it already exists is just compost bins and keep them outside 😂
@@theshuman100
Compared to most composters I've seen this is at least half price or less. That is probably why they have to subsidize it with a subscription. This is a product for well meaning eco-nerds with more money than sense.
Think about this thing. Its using energy, likely generated by some carbon dioxide producing method, to dry and "compost" (it doesn't do a good job) your food waste. How is that Green? The amount of energy required is not trivial. And then, they suggest that the most efficient use of this, is to load it up on a truck and drive it back to a farm. Which admittedly is far less carbon intensive than the energy used to create it but still, this is a not well thought out concept. Many Kickstarter campaigns have tried this concept and they all have gone bust.
this creates pre-compost. menaing you can feed it to your plants but its not 100% compost. it can speed up the composting process quite a lot though, but if you live in an apartment, or a cold climate region, its great. if you have a farm, and are already composting, then this isnt really a product for you.
You expect people to pay monthly fees, use their electricity just so you can sell that feed to farms or claim to donate it? Good luck
They're gonna need it
Delusional much
I just checked out your site, I was excited till I learned the only options to get one is either 29 or 49 dollars a month, I have no intention of renting a kitchen trash can, that is nuts. However I am looking into some of your competitors who are willing to sell me a trash can, that I can proudly call mine... all mine!
Nutrichef has one on Amazon for $269 with 2 day delivery.
I disagree. This product is using more watt hours just to badly compost your food. You would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see. I wouldn't buy one.
You can buy it... for $999.
Interesting, interesting
I disagree. This product is using more watt hours just to badly compost your food, then ship it off and cause more (although less) emissions. You would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see.
Seems expensive for what’s effectively a bread machine. I bet there are more unwanted bread machines than there are people willing to pay $33 a month to post scraps to a farm. I don’t expect there’s much to the “secret process”.
You make your bread from kitchen scraps? Sounds terrible.
I love it but that membership? I’m out. I’m sure it pays for great causes but that’s too much of a commitment. I mean, do I have to return the bin to cancel?!
I would like the system but would like to keep my own compost and buy it outright 😊
Thats after you get the app, buy a plan then they tell u how to start it. Double tap the button they said. I am going to use a hammer on that button.
you can keep it. you dont need to send it anywhere, that is a misconception. that is an option for those that dont really have gardens
@@beto008 when the product first came out I asked the company if we could keep the compost they said no
why not with small pay backs.
You want me to pay rent on my trash can!?
Anonymous sources of dehydrated stuff.
And if someone opts to be an anarchist or terrorist- dumping poison .
Toxic material in it?
Yeah, in any large population of people these days there is always bound to be one or two that would do such a thing, or mail their toxic waste in with it. What a stupid idea.
Why is this a subscription can I not just keep the trash and compost???
You can keep it, they still charge you monthly. You must subscribe to keep the bin. Ass backwards.
@@solarqueen2555you can buy the bin. If you use it for 3 years anyways why not just buy it vs pay them the subscription cost?
Oh you send it back ?
yea by paying.
Where i can buy it?
For $1000.00?
Yes, that's just what everyone wants. A device that cooks their trash before they throw it away.
Yeah i want this lmao. I want to use the compost for plant food and mix it with my soil mediums. Absolutely it has a useful purpose if you aren't dumb about it and just buy it as a fancy trashcan lmao. Stupid comments i stg.
When I hear “dry it out” all I hear is my kitchen smelling like hot compost
Land fills need food to create bacteria so the land fill can do this same thing "decompose".
This costs more than my actual garbage service. And they take EVERYTHING.
ps I might be exagerrating... my wife pays that bill.
Think about you don’t have to throw the garbage away and you don’t have to touch the garbage can away
this is quite possibly the most idiotic idea I've ever heard of.
I'll stick to my trusty ol' composter that bakes everything to perfection in the South Texas sun. I thought this was an awesome concept when I heard about it... meh...not so much.
This product is using more watt hours just to badly compost food. People would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see.
WTF? You can't just buy the bin, you have to pay an outrageously high $33 monthly service fee?!!! Here's what they say is included:
The food-recycling Mill kitchen bin
Food Grounds pickups whenever you want
Filters, repairs, and even bin replacement
Detailed, personalized impact reports
A dedicated support team of real people
Other than the bin, I have absolutely no need for those other things. I would be happy to pay for filters when I need a new one. I actually want to KEEP the food grounds. Why would I give it to them for free, and let them make money off of it? They should be paying me for it! And it's just product. Why on earth would I want a support team or impact reports? That's just ridiculous.
Wow, I was looking it up just for the bin. It is a monthly service? Pass. I mean I think it is great for a school or small office project, but I am a backyard homesteader big pass.
It seems like a very bad idea to send your biomass through the mail to begin with - what a waste of energy to transport your trash? Also, with today's intrusive businesses selling customer info, who can tell what they can make of what you send them? Do you need to have a subscription for this? I like the idea of taking kitchen scraps and making compost out of them - that could be a valuable asset to me since I like to grow my own veggies.
Are you required to send in your scraps? That just seems like one of the worst ideas I've heard of.
what the hell.
This is stupid, I promise you the energy wasted to boil off the extra water, grind it down, AND ship it is hurting the environment more than just tossing it in the garbage. Unreal.
Rent-a-Composter?!? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
This is a Shark Tank gone wrong!
Are you kidding? For $1,000.00 I’ll keep taking the garbage out.
Ok, like I get the idea, but can anything exist today without being a subscription? I refuse to pay more monthly BS. If you get my money, I get a product, not a temporary rental.
You are not adding a value to the owners plus you are charging them and use their petrol produced electricity
And this is the problem with capitalism… you only see personal value and not the value that you’re giving back to the planet.
Unfortunately most people are like this in the world and especially in the U.S.@@chelseae22
Smooth brain logic
100% piece of crap. Mine was a gift. Damn thing will not even start. Double tap the button me ass. Sledgehammer time.
Who would give you are gift that you have you have pay a subscription fee for? Your worst enemy?
This product is using more watt hours just to badly compost your food. You would use less energy by thermally insulating your home, and improving the power efficiency of plugs, outlets, bulbs, etc. But really people want a one tap solution to feel like they are being "Green" and "Environmentally conscious" without putting in any real effort. Even though many companies have tried to do this exact same product and failed, this is the spoon fed feel-good environmentalism that people are somehow to unwilling or unable to see.