Is the 2025 Kia K4 GT-Line Turbo the BEST new compact sedan to BUY?
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- κ²μμΌ 2024. 03. 26.
- FIRST LOOK: The K4 is here and Kia has a totally new design for the Forte's replacement. On the outside you will see Kia's new design direction with full LED lighting, sunroof and flushed rear door handles. On the inside you will be greeted by 30in of screen, two-tone interior and extra room. Under the hood is a 1.6L turbocharged inline-4 that produces 190HP and is mated to an 8-speed automatic transmission. Is the 2025 Kia K4 GT-Line Turbo the BEST new compact sedan to BUY?
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Love the all new K4. Tks for sharing this one Joe.
My OCD really wants that rear passenger door handle!!
I think it look cool without handle
should have did all the doors without the handle
@@thakingtonei agree..i like the hidden door handles if the front matched but looks weird with read hidded and front on door
Tiger Nose is cool. I Still have a 2014 Optima as a daily commuter. 188K miles. After the engine replacement recall, she's been reliable. Plus I get a lifetime warranty on the engine. Cars handle very well. πβοΈ
Oh wow! That is so fantastic to hear!
I think kia nailed it in terms of design.
Specially the wagon, Kia should bring GT with manual & better powertrain.
Thank u for great review.
You are so very welcome!
THIS is what I need from KIA! The K4 looks so much better as the hatchback version. Make it a GT Manual with better turbo engine and exposed exhaust, and it would be damn near perfect in my opinion! I really wanted to get into a new Forte/K4 Turbo manual by the end of the year, but looks like I'll have to wait until 2025. :(
Personally I think they are holding back the full blown GT for something along the lines on the N.
@@thisisnotreallife20I doubt it will continue to be offered in a manual, this is an all new model.
@@thisisnotreallife20I agree I think theyβd have a great car on their hands if they added a manual and exposed exhaust
Being the owner of a 2022 Forte (again I give you credit for your videos helping me with my research when buying it), I am impressed and excited about what they are replacing it with. I agree with the zonks given on the side grill "openings", heavy gloss black usage at lower end of the vehicle and lack of behind the seat pockets. My bonus zonk would be not having electric adjustable passenger seat controls, for a top trim
I look forward to your videos. You give great reviews β
Hi joe & Lori Great Review π
Just the guy I was looking for to see the new K4!
Seems like a good value for the money. The tryhard overstyling is a bit much though. I hope they can sell the new hatchback line to get the Japanese manufacturers to step up and compete with better next-gen hatchbacks.
You hit the nail on the head!
Joe, you are the best in the business. I bought a β24 Forte GT over the phone without even having driven one (dealer 2 hrs. away over snowy mountains) based partially on your review, and I love it. Iβll have a Twinkie on you.
I like the blended door handle for rear passenger door... it keeps design clean.. and I like coupe look it gives the K4
Omg! I cant wait to see you test drive it, kia is really stealing my heart π i love Nissan but i just cant get into the New Z so i started looking at other kia versions of my current Forte, now from optima to stinger and then K5 i dont really want to choose, i love options lol but this is def a task π this K4 is very stylish its kinda like a illusion coupe π
Another great video Joe.
7:12 I prefer the gloss black on that rear window. That's where I put a couple of stickers. Where the stickers no longer impeded on the rear window real-estate. Plus on the design side, it makes the rear deck lid seem shorter than what it is.
Do you have confirmation of ac vents on the back coming to the us maket?
Thanks, Joe.
Beautifully designed two toned steering wheel, love the Kia lettering on it and the design and the solid looks of the switch gear.
Loved the review! How long will you be at the auto show?
Hi Joe nice to see a compact sedan with rear vents & usb ports
Hey Joe..thought it was a K5 for a min.. nice work as always also Lori with the camera πΈ... Needs some exhaust exposure and more horsepower.. I really miss the K900 aka K9..is that completely dead or they making something new sooner or later?...
K9 is available in some countries such as Korea. If itβs not in the US probably the marketability and profitability issue
@@jeonglee2342 thanks so much I would love to see what a new one looks like .. I love my Japanese Chinese Asians Koreans people & autos etc..
Love that steering wheel! Im a sucker for the white trim
I agree with u that the front grill should have functional vents and fog lamps. Also not liking the hidden door handles on the rear doors. Really missing my 2020 Stinger GT1.
I think the black trim over the wheels is a good thing. Keeps it from looking slab sided.
Joe another thing that is not speaking to me is they could have expanded the black roof towards the rear make the shark fin antenna black on top and they could have added led foglights
those many little changes really look appealing!
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Is this xxxx the best xxxx ?
All cars are amazing to you !! Nothing short, no car looks terrible!
Great vid
Sharp looking compact
I like the gloss black around π
Damn this makes me so happy I got my 23 Forte GT. If they come out with a full blown GT model with the Elantra N goodies and in a hatch, Iβd be sold. If not Iβll just wait for the EN to get the 2.5t engine in the next couple of years.
Amazing review SIRyour truly the best in the business
Thanks for having my back Robert!
Coming from a guy who owned a 2022 Forte GT I really wanted to like this car. BUT it's longer, wider, Less HP and no more DCT. The look over all is not doing it for me. Great showcase Joe thank you.
The car in the video is just the K4 GT Line which is a step below the GT trim in Kia's line up. Maybe Kia will release a full on GT trim when the K4 goes on sale or for 2026. If not, then yeah, that would be disappointing.
DCT sucks. my 23 forte gt broke already. only 9k miles. was never hard on it.
I saw Joes review of the K4 and Iβve seen many of his reviews. I donβt think he likes the car. Compact sedan itβs not. Itβs as long as a NYC subway car.
How come you still don't have it? Its only 2 years old.
The cost-cutting is real!
Im curious to see if this will be offered in awd
Your videos never fail to make me laugh and are always well informed. Keep being awesome!
Good review Joe but I agree with you about the hidden rear door handle. Why bother, does it really clean up the overall design if you still have a conventional door handle on the front doors? And why the 11 hp decrease from the previous model year? Probably not enough to seriously impact performance but why go backwards? Was it emission related or a result of the new design? I doubt the latter as the engine bay must be the same as the previous model. Great job as always Joe. I do like the styling better than the Forte except for the weird thing you pointed out w/ the front bumper design.
Do you know if this will be available with a 6 speed manual?
KIA is doing it, outstanding job on this the K4 and the K5. BEAUTIFULLY DONE
The side profile towards the rear wnere the quarter window and black glass touch looks so strange.
Kia K4 5-door is beatiful
K4 not a hatchback/ but the k3 should.
Really liking the design and I think the steering wheel is spot on! I just wish it was a Sportback like I first thought it was going to be in the beginning of the video.
All your zonks are legit. Not a bad offering as a K4 brand but definitely I'd like to see those changes as you pointed out. Excellent first review. Low $30k could be a keeper.
Nice!!!!! π₯π₯π₯π₯π₯. I have a 2020 Kia Forte GT Line thatβs burnt orange i would like the k4 in the same color it would look dope
I was waiting on your thoughts on the new release!! In the future, can you do a video comparing 2025 K4 to the 2025 K5?
I agree that would be a cool video, seeing the differences between the cabin space and powertrains, other features, etc. especially since theyβre both pretty much brand new
the door handles remind of the first 3 generations of the Nissan Pathfinder where the back 2 doors were up by the windows as well
Making it a liftback and hiding BOTH sets of door handles in the pillars would've made this car more enticing. They nailed everything else though.
Thanks for your honest thoughts on this one.
@91_C4_FL Yeah but that wouldβve cost more to develop and ultimately made the car more expensive.
@@upbeattvraw-hiphop8242 Joe said it's somewhere around $33k, that's already WAY too much for a car in this segment.
Thanks, do you know when the 2025 Golf R will arrive?
Kia is just in a roll man. Nice cars
Loving the K4β¦Kia hit this one out of the park. Awesome style and technologyβ¦leaving the competition in the dust. π
Is it going to launch in Canada ?
i like the black around the rims.
Is it coming to Europe? You got any insight?
Is it going to launch in canada ?
Good job Lori
I love the new design I dig it
My zonk is their front door handle, i think they should've done a flush handle. This way it kind of looks odd.
AGREED FLUSH DOOR HANDLES ALL AROUND.
12:12 Rear door cut out goes unnecessarily towards the rear and its shape does not match with this 3/4 window which has a totally vertical line.
That's a nice looking interior
I like the black around the wheel. Zonk the cvt.
Will definitely trade-in my GT2 for this. The difference in 11 horses, is probably purely in the tune & not a smaller turbo like the pre-facelifted K5, everything else, the upgraded technology inside & out, which was already ahead of it's competitors & then some, is worth that small dip, that again, will easily be rectified by affordable aftermarket tunes. I predict sometime in 2025, they'll introduce a full-on GT, that'll be more closely related to the Elantra N (not N-Line). That's the same kind of sunroof, the Stinger had btw & those rear door handles are reminiscent of the Veloster's rear door.
When Redline reviews did their first look at the auto show, the dash was lit up.
I think the GT will come next for sure and it will more than likely be the hatch they have the ability with the Elantra N of course
Cool Design.
So the tail light doesn't go all the way across the back? So close :(
Is this sedan Kia Boys approved??
That is a great question!
Ask your Progressive Insurance agent, LOL
ππ» nope
I can't believe they killed the GT trim !!!!!!! I like my 2023 Kia Forte GT more than the K4 π’
@@maoinc13Hopefully they release a Gt eventually. The k5 has a Gt available so I donβt see any they would leave that out for the K4.
Very nice replacement for the Forte!...Would really consider this vehicle!
K4 looks pretty good, wish it had a little more horsepower though. Excited to see how the hatchback turns out (V6 Turbo would be a dream)
Does anyone else think theyβll release a gt trim with a manual later on in the year? I wanna believe so, because of the positioning of the shift lever in the current models. Itβs the perfect spot for a manual transmission.
I own a 2023 Forte GT, love that they brought the 1.6T engine back but wonder why they dropped the Horsepower rating for this one. Black trim on the fender liner seems out of place on a compact. Hate that theres no exposed exhaust for at least the Turbo version, less sport qualities than last year
That is a great question!
I like the design. The only zonk for me is the old school gas engine. This with some better packaging underneath the skin for a large front trunk and dual motor setup would be awesome.
Wow vent in the back is best in its class.
This car is sporty but I agree that some things kind of don't add up like the lower HP and the shiny black plastic all over the outside including the plastic wheel well trim and some other aspects. Shouldn't be black cladding or shiny black plastic similar to an SUV.
Super nice looking.
I am down for this
I like the interior alot but the body kinda reminds of that Cadillac CTS which isnt a bad thing at all and the rear lights reminds me of a Volkswagon which is bad personally lol. Killer is the HP drops from 201 in a Forte GT i know its not much but if the msrp is more than a Forte GT then thats a problem.
I like it!
I am so glad that I can share it with you Matthew!
The white on the steering wheel, and on the seats is a no go for me, I am curious on weight of the vehicle. And the price tag if msrp is above 32k no good for me
New look underground type carbon K4-1200 Kmph/pwh significant slide to redeem air circulation outside wih something modularity and comparing ecle step 1 to the 4 handle it love air carbon.
We need a Full GT. But. Thank you Kia
I can't believe they dropped it!
They didn't drop it! I will be released on a later date. It will be equivalent to the Hyundai Elantra N in power train. And, their will be a hatchback version of the K4 coming soon. I think Joe was late to the auto show. Mostly, all the auto journalists covered all the details from the KIA marketing presentation. Go check out TFL or Redline reviews. They went into more detail than Joe did. Sorry, Joe. I'm just saying. You missed some key notes here.
Are you sure there will be one?β@@jraheemjefcoat429
I donβt like how this is the turbo version but it doesnβt have the dual sport exhaust or DCT transmission and has 11 less hp. It looks like a lot of new cars are hiding their exhaust with these little tiny pipes hidden under the bumper, which i hate. Iβm so glad I got the Forte GT.
It does look like something from a galaxy FAR FAR away,!!!
Black gloss makes wheel wells look bigger
They were going for the coupe look with the rear door handles.
Man You gotta get ur eyes on the G80 Genesis Magma Special
good job
Sleek and classy but I will miss the aggressive front of the current forte. Just seeing that car in my rear view mirror makes me feel something π₯²
no cloth siding is good...that is easier to clean
Beautiful car
The turbo loses the dual clutch - so one would assume and adjustment needed to optimize with the 8 speed automatic.
It looks very good, i'm happy it got an Auto instead of the DCT.
I am glad that you are liking it!
WHAT the DCT is an amazing transmission itβs for car enthusiast. Obviously not for you.
β@roccodifranco7866 not for a simple car. Good if it has turbo differentials and dampers.
Keep simple cars simple
Joe: this car is locked, we can't open trunk
Proceeds to go inside by opening driver's door
Ever since I started watching Raiti's I am a sucker for fog lights... don't even get near my wallet if you don't got no fog lights!
Did he mention if it was RWD or FWD? Would be surprised if they have an AWD option, hopefully on the hatchback version
Gang awd gets more upkeep expenses
Special alignments/ if one tire goes bad or alignment is really bad you usually need to replace all 4 tires !
I'm hoping that there will be a GT trim with more power
Next year is gonna tough in terms of car competition
Some people complain about kia reliability at least your warranty is 100k, try Buying a brand new $100k Mercedes Benz S Class or BMW 7 series, when your Engine hits around 40k miles, it starts leaking Oil and Rod Bearing starts going bad Turbos also those vehicles has real bad Reliability.
Think there's other models coming like wagon esq hatch back
This may be true!
I hope they make a GT model around 225 HP. That would be perfect as a daily driver.
I love that he says zonkπ
7:10 I was waiting for this moment to find out if it would be a Hatchback cause in Canada we still have the Forte5 .I imagine that with such a sloping ass there won't be K4 / '5' for us .
I guess in the future there will be a full Kia GT trim?