Pat McAfee And Robert Mathis Talk Ryan Grigson And What Ruined The Colts Culture
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- 게시일 2020. 06. 20.
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I miss Antoine Bethea, he was one of my favorite players on defense. I got his autograph at training camp one year, I had just gotten Donald Brown's autograph and looked to my right and there was Bethea standing right next to me.
I’m a Colts fan from the UK. My first ever NFL jersey was a #41 Bethea. Such an under-rated player. My second was #44 Dallas Clark.
Great leader too.. loved having him on my cards for a bit even if he didnt play the greatest
Loved AB when played for my Niners!
Bethea brackett Cato june great guys
cool story
Mathis is such a humble guy my favorite colt. Met him one summer day I didn't ask for a pic or make a big scene just shook his hand and told him thank you for what he done for Indianapolis and he talked to my son for a little bit. Awesome guy
Grigson sounds like he was meant to be an assistant manager at Applebee's. And even there he'd try to go on power trips.
😆 😆 😆
The Vikings hired him for some role in their Front Office
Robert Mathis was a great guest! Love it when you guys bring in players to guest in the show.
Ryan Grigson and his 24 other burners disliked this.
Grigs was soooo bad made chuck look worse than he was which was mediocre
With Dan Dakich leading the charge...Grison is a steaming pile of turds.
Didn't they make the playoffs three times under Grigson though?
NO ONE liked Ryan Grigson, it’s crazy. He really ruined the winning culture and is the reason Andrew Luck’s career played out the way it did. It still sucks, but at least we have Ballard and Reich now. Future looks bright
Except Dan Dakich
Yup glad to know we are in good hands
They made the playoffs three times under his regime though.
@@xc377 Yeah because Andrew Luck absolutely carried the team. Whenever he was hurt, we were well below average. Shows how much of a difference he made. Grigson didn’t do a good enough job of putting an actual good roster around him. Luck was the most hit QB in the league for like 4 years straight
@@gabesoto9301 I feel bad for Reich. He couldn’t do anything about Luck since by the time he came in, Luck was already broken
We need Bob Sanders on here... he’s highly underrated
Sanders was in no way, shape or form "underrated". He got all the credit in the world when he played....he just didn't play much.
I remember on the old Indy Star Colts message boards fans saying they didn't care if Sanders only played 6 games a year as long as he was ready for the playoffs lol.
I mean, I loved Sanders when he was healthy but the Colts relied on him too much and paid him too much. And since he was almost never healthy when he wasn't ready to go they were really affected.
Sanders is a huge reason they won the SB in 2006 but he's also (IMO) a huge reason why they didn't win another one. Out of 128 possible games during his career the guy only played in 50. He just couldn't stay healthy.
FlemLo just made a video about him, going off the comments section of that vid it does seem like a surprising amount of people forgot about him
I could not agree more! Bob Sanders was so much fun to watch!!
Way way way way WAY
💯
Mathis seems like a cools guy to have some beers with
What the hell is a cools guy?
steven gray perhaps he meant cool. Sheesh.
steven gray not hard to put two and two together
Lifelong Colts fan living in Indy, but only ever got to meet Robert Mathis and then Jeff Saturday in person. After those meetings, both became a new all-time favorite player. Mathis' agent or whoever it was actually had to remind him he had other people to meet because he was still there talking to my dad and I about Peyton, Tony Dungy, whatever!
He's definitely a cools guy.
robert hitting the nail on the head about AB, wish we could have kept him around for another contract
i was so pissed when we let him leave, don't get me started.
Harpoon_Bakery was iu
Bruce Arians was a damn good coach that really helped luck push his career to another level
“You can’t replicate it. But you can get rid of it.” 💯
Mathis is a beast, one of the best to ever do it
He really was. He and Freeney were a two man wrecking crew. How many games did Mathis save or turn around by a strip or a huge sack?
As a pats fans man I use to hate them respectfully.... 😂
Mathis, Freeny, Bethea, and Sanders were all monsters! Wish they kept them for their whole careers.
Mathis held on, but everyone else went somewhere else.
@@kingnah317 They kept Mathis for his whole career and basically all of Bob's. They let the other two go too early but Mathis and Sanders were done when the Colts released them.
Sanders finished his last 4 seasons on IR if I'm remembering right. The guy just couldn't stay healthy.
The Colts heritage is rich. So many legendary athletes... Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Edgrin James, Jeff Saturday, Dallas Clark, Mike Vanderjat, Adam Vinatieri, Pat McAfee, Robert Mathis, Dwight Freeney, Bob Sanders, Garrey Bracket, Joseph Addai, of course Andrew Luck, TY Hilton and so many more...
Over the past 20 years, my Colts have had some outstanding football players.
love robert mathis coming on the show in person, seems like such a chill dude.
I’ve been a colts fan all my life❤️🙏
Same 1-0 bring that juice 🔥🔥 🏔
Ok
dan orlovesky was the greatest colts qb ever
@@corymatthews6778 He certainly seemed great after Painter.
Cory Matthews He really was , we go 0-16 if not for orlovsky
Once upon a time, I was really believing Tony Dungy would become the next comissioner. Dude just has respect from the entire football world
I used to always watch sportscenter now I watch this cancel my cable services and save 100s a year with McAfee sportstalk
Lol you could have saved more $$$$ if you did it years ago. I cut my cable since 2013
Great interview. Love this show.
I'm a bears fan and I remember it like yesterday when the Colts beat Da bears in the Superbowl
That Devin Hester return was historic
Damn man. We could have had ANY other quarterback and won that super bowl. I was a sad ass 8th grader that night lol. At least Prince was dope lol
@@tronskee32 Why do people always make that excuse? The Bears had the 14th ranked passing offense in the league that season and the number 2 point scoring offense.
Their defense was one of the best in the league. The Colts just beat them.
The reason the Bears lost is they couldn't stop the Colts run game and Grossman didn't play defense.
@@Vichedges because rex Grossman was a god awful quarterback who was relinquished of his duties by a QB on the roster the following year
@@evanamon1287 And the Colts had a godawful defense in 2006.
And the Bears couldn't stop the Colts run game.
You can play that "if only" game with any team dude.
Grossman won 13 games in 2006 and the Bears had a very good offense. They just got beat.
We've been waiting for the Grigson roast
“I threw the oop you didn’t catch it”🤣🤣🤣
Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney were solely the reason I went from okay to great as a lacrosse attackman. If you want to play lacrosse the right way watchtowers hose two rip through people. That inside roll is deadly and I explored it tremendously. Thank you!!!!!❤❤❤❤
Yes! They were masters of it and no team could stop it
Dope that they talked openly about the era. It was a very strange time to be a Colts fan to be sure.
Met mr Mathis in h.s at a football camp great man a ton of information 💯
i love these deeper internal conversations
Pat, AJ, Robert.... I am hear all day for this.
Just so happy to see Bobby Mathis, it woulda been even better to have Freeney, Saturday, Wayne, Clark and the Goat himself P. Manning on that talk! Coming from a country that don't watch American football, these guys made me love that team and now I am and my kids are colts forever!
This channel is a product of one the NFL's best players.
The NFL Network should be smiling at its grandson's success!
Ryan Grigson spent all that time worrying about painting over the Colts murals instead of focusing on maybe trying to build a TOP 30 offensive line for our young, hall of fame talent Andrew Luck. Ryan “Let’s Draft Phillip Dorsett in the First Round Even Though Andrew Luck is Getting Severe Internal Injuries Because Of Our Awful Offensive Line” Grigson should be sued by the Colts organization and by Andrew Luck himself for his complete negligence and incompetence. Cost the Colts a chance to compete for a Super Bowl and cost Andrew Luck his health and ultimately his career. Imagine this years roster with Andrew Luck😢
Dungy was well loved in Tampa... He turned that culture of losing with winning... His only error that he did not set the bar high for the offense as he did with the defense, and he could not get over the Eagles roadblock everytime they met in the playoff.... Im glad he finally won one with Indy....
Robert such a good man! He reminds me of ronnie Lott!
Love the Love for A.B.
Wow Robert Mathis, he was stokin' love that guy. Dude needs to be on a show! ;)
Mathis is a great addition to the show. Man has a wealth of knowledge and wisdom.
As a titans fan thinking about Dungy brings back good memories. Manning vs. McNair 💯
If I go to google and search "most electric conversation ever" and this video doesn't show up im gonna be pissed
"That's what happens when you get a BRUNCH of people involved..."😅
THIS is why I love Robert Mathis. He’s diehard Indianapolis Colts
I remember living in Tampa when Sungy’s son hung himself. It couldn’t of happened to a more undeserving person!
I though that said deserving for a second.
I still remember that hit Mr. MATHIS laid on Peyton Mannings first game back in Indy when he was with the Broncos. Peyton was seeing ghosts of Robert after that one.
Changed the whole game after that Mathis balled out that season to 19 Sacks I’m sure
What’s up with the tie-dye Wolfpack t-shirt AJ 😂😂😂
As a vikings fan hearing this depresses me since they just hired him ryan
Way to defend the most underrated unsung hero’s and players of all time Antoine Betha41
AJ hawk out here beasting it with the 947 career NFL tackles and not one toradol shot 😂😂😂
Tony Dungy was around football royalty his entire career player and coach
I still can hear bob lamey saying "Mathis got 'em!"
The painting over history in the facility is a Belichick thing to emphasize making your own history. Pretty sure it backfired everytime.
Hey Mr. Ballard!!!! Please put that mural back up pronto if you haven't already!!!
I'm a Giants fan,and even I have mad respect,for Tony Dungy. I would've rather have him as a Giants coach than that sorry-asses McAdoo,and Shurmer. The Giants would compete every year,and maybe an another SB,or two.
It was about time he was in the studio. I can imagine Boston Conner just shitting himself after he mad eye contact with Mathis 😂
gotta luv the cigar, that's a stogey.
Ryan ruin Indy while he was there. I don't know why they kept him for as long as they did.
Mathis is 110% correct about Antoine Bethea being replaced by LaRon Landry. It was a dumb move. Landry was a SS and we put him at FS when the guy had poor coverage skills. He didn't stay healthy despite being extremely juiced up.
"Bethea, who turns 36 on July 27, is a three-time Pro Bowl selection who provided a veteran presence at the back end of the secondary for the New York Giants after signing a two-year deal last offseason. He served as a team captain in his first season with the team. Bethea appeared to lose a step or two in his 14th NFL season despite leading the Giants with 110 tackles -- his eighth season with 100 or more.
In 2018, Bethea started 16 games for the Arizona Cardinals and set a career high with three sacks. He also had 4 passes defensed, a forced fumble and 121 tackles. In 2017, he notched a career-best five interceptions for the Cardinals. He started his career with the Indianapolis Colts, where he played eight seasons and won a Super Bowl. In addition to the Giants and Cardinals, he has also spent time with the San Francisco 49ers. For his career, Bethea has 1,333 tackles, 9.5 sacks, 25 interceptions, 9 forced fumbles (7 recoveries) and a defensive touchdown."
Damn I’ve been putting this video off because I was so pissed off at that bastard lol but I’m glad Robert and Pat were so candid, thanks to AJ pushing the issue 🙏
Ryan Grigson might have been the worst thing that's happened to the Colts.
They should of kept Kyle Orton as the starter that year he's the one who had a good season not Rex
Grigson robbed the sports community of what should have been a HOF career in Andrew Luck, absolutely inexcusable! Luck deserved the GM & Coaches in today's Colts.
Luck heart was not in it, unlikely the Mannings , Luck was spoiled , and think he was average Q.B.
@@erickennedy3322 Average? Not sure who you watched, but he was far from average 🤔
Aj got Baskins eyes when asked about toridaul
Can someone explain to me what they were talking about when mentioning the planes back home after a game, that AJ didn’t know about, something he never experienced in GB??
Toradol. An anti-inflammatory painkiller
P. Mac with the Air Force React on 😎
Sorry bub those are just plain jane air force 1’s
@@Dollar-zb2ik your sneaker knowledge is lacking. I'm not expert but I do love and own over a dozen Air Force 1's and I'm telling you those are reacts because I have 4 pairs of them; including the ones he is wearing.
It is a sad day when you are forced to see 2 full 15 second ads for the first time
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Im so glad Colts football is finally back to being an amazing culture
This comment aged poorly🤣
Mathis representing Alabama A&M!!!!
Airforce 1 all time classic
Damn. Grew up in Indiana watching those Peyton Manning and Tony Dungy teams. Once Peyton left, and we got a new stadium, it just didn’t feel like the Indianapolis Colts anymore
Not even when Luck led the Colts on that incredible Playoff comeback against KC?
what was it that AJ said he never did? I couldn't understand what they were saying
me either ... no clue at all
Toradol shots. Toradol is a crazy effective painkiller that almost the entire NFL would use before games. Not as popular now because of the horrible side effects of long term use (heart attack, stroke, kidney damage, etc.)
Toradol - an anti inflammatory drug used to treat pain.
An injectable NSAID.
Tony the best coach ever🙏❤️
Irsay hiring Grigson set this franchise back decades and wasted a generational QB. Still a head scratcher of why he was hired.
Pretty obvious why they painted over the mural of Colts' heritage - the same reason he was getting rid of players he didn't draft.
I can’t believe Irsay didn’t insist the mural be repainted after they booted Grigsons worthless ass
If it weren’t for what we have now, I probably would’ve raged when they said about them changing the culture, cause we probably would’ve been one of the bottom teams if it weren’t for Luck, Ballard, and Reich after that
Nice Scotland Rugby kit Pat...
NO EXCUSES NO EXPLANATION
Bruce Arian’s helped Andrew Luck resurrect his ability to win. Grigson is the very reason Andrew Luck got beat up way too much. Ballard and Reich have brought the culture too another level. The Horseshoe is back baby!!!!
Bob Sanders is the greatest safety of all time. Won DPOY in a season he only played like 10 full games.
Apparently the Vikings powers that be didn't watch this episode. 🤦♂️
AJ "Straight Edge" Hawk
Dungee is like Jeter with the Yankees. His ghost is still there, no one was more deadass
Tony always picks the losing team in his predictions. I'll bet on who he picks to lose every time 😂
I think Grigson was a life long Baltimore fan and hated the Colts for leaving and set out to snowball the Colts.
He was most likely a Bears fan. He grew up in Highland Indiana. Northwest Indiana is da bastard of da state. More like Illinois than Indiana.
Basically, pro football is just like highschool and college football with a bunch more politics.
Ballard should bring back Bethea 👀
I've been say this for years, dude still plays.
Grigson was a fox in the hen house, destroyed the Colts from the inside out. Feels dirty mentioning his name.
I think Grigson had the walls painted over to not show the Colts history so they could focus on the present and the future and not the past. But i could be completely wrong and there could've been another reason why that happened. Grigson is one of those arrogant guys that thinks he knows everything about everything.
Even if so that’s a stupid mode of thinking.
AJ Hawk didnt do what? Touredal??? Did I miss hear that?
What’s this “tordall” or whatever it is they keep on talking about
It’s an anti-inflammatory steroid injection. They think it’s some big time pain killer because they don’t know any better. Honestly it’s not much better then IBprophen.
@@ryand4533 they give them enough of it that you don't notice you're turning a minor injury into a career ender until it's way too late. It doesn't need to be heroine to have a permanent, negative effect. It's just because of what staff makes players do, not because it's chemical X.
Julian Lesk In my experience it’s worthless. I’ve been giving Toradoll shots several times and it doesn’t do anything. If I had to go out and play football on an injured knee Toradoll wouldn’t help. I think the Drs lie to them. I’ve worked slave labor jobs half my life no way I would be able to work on an injury with a Toradoll shot unless it was stacked with another actual pain killer.
I liked antoine bethea with the colts and cards, but damn as soon as he came to the giants he couldn't cover a baby with a blanket
God damnit Pat, stop making me like former Colts.
What happened to Joseph addai
Grigson whiffing on those drafts is likely the reason Luck retired, couldn't draft anyone that helped him
What changed? Ryan.Grigson.
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"the winningest decade in NFL history?" lol....
He meant winningest team of the last decade
Absolutely sucks that they painted that wall over
May have been herm Edwards? Not sure
Damn Dungy should coach again
Tony's outward Christianity rules him out for today's NFL
I ❤️ Mathis
We need Luck on here
They stop drafting good defenders and never got a Elite RB for Andrew luck he basically had to do everything himself on offense
Woooow, the disrespect to paint over the history
What was Bob Sanders like?
“ay what changed the first regimes to the second?” 😒 so toxic