The Downfall of Family Vlogging Channels: ShayTards

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  • ๊ฒŒ์‹œ์ผ 2021. 04. 02.
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    hey guys! FINALLY. The last part to the series is done and out for your enjoyment. Again, please don't go send hate and ill will to this family, it sucks enough that the kids have to go through it and PUBLICLY. I really hope that this series opened your eyes (like it did mine) to the dangers of family vlogging channels and how scary the world can be for not just the kids but the parents as well! With that being said, I won't be uploading this week lol Im gonna take a week off and work on catching up with school stuff and also researching my next topic ๐Ÿ™Š. ANYWAY I love you guys so much and I can't wait to hang out and tell stories with y'all again. ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—
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  • @HaileyElizabethh
    @HaileyElizabethh  3 ๋…„ ์ „ +10256

    Overall: What Shay did was wrong and disgusting. This affair went on for 3 MONTHS. There's literally no excuse as to why he kept going back to the woman and continued to cheat on his wife, the clock was ticking for him to eventually get caught and he knew that but still pursued. It was a choice , and a wrong one and I feel like he understands that now (after 3 years). As I said in the video, the family is still trying to heal from all of this (especially the kids who are getting dragged into it because their faces have on the internet since they were 4 years old). SO PLEASE don't go and send hate to the family. I hope you learned a lot during this series about the messed up things that goes on with family vlogging channels (I know I have lmao). Anyway, hope y'all enjoyed and can't wait to hang out with you and tell stories again :)
    xoxo,
    Hailey

    • @RaccoonNation
      @RaccoonNation 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +85

      Youโ€™re such a smart goddess ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿ’—

    • @meganlynn83
      @meganlynn83 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +31

      New sub here! Love your videos! ๐Ÿ’™

    • @kelly_xoxo
      @kelly_xoxo 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +108

      Sending bad vibes to shay and please escape vibes to collette. Get therapy vibes to the kids cause lord knows they need it.

    • @kamdyn8190
      @kamdyn8190 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +64

      Can you do the Labrant fam

    • @broisugood4315
      @broisugood4315 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +25

      for a future video can you do a video abt bhad bhabie?

  • @itsPetal
    @itsPetal 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5613

    Just the title "Fat Dad, Fat Kid" made me feel sick. Especially given that the kid was 12. I feel like we all remember every single time we were called fat at age 12, that shit sticks with you

    • @paanora440
      @paanora440 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +220

      The word โ€œfatโ€ shouldnโ€™t be seen an insult... or used as one.
      :(

    • @tomuchcamoflauge
      @tomuchcamoflauge 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +159

      i remember being called fat then, and then I spent 13-23 eating only once a day or every other day in an attempt to lose weight. for reference i had a undiagnosed hormone issue so i just gained weight anyway

    • @itsPetal
      @itsPetal 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +59

      @@paanora440 I completely agree! The context of his videos was definitely intending it that way though, and I hope his son is doing okay based on having that public stigma attached to him

    • @itsPetal
      @itsPetal 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +23

      @@tomuchcamoflauge big mood ๐Ÿ™
      I hope you're recovering well now ๐Ÿ’œ

    • @d00rman71
      @d00rman71 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +40

      Personally I wasn't called 'fat' I was called 'twig' 'stick' and 'barbie' and despite telling people I don't like these nicknames, the nicknames continued. They would do that wrist thing and say "Omg you're so skinny, you're like barbie" and I'd just be there like "yeah I know, now stop mentioning it"

  • @Venus_Angel777
    @Venus_Angel777 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +7152

    The way this man was writing a whole wattpad story in her dms is killing me ๐Ÿ’€

  • @hannahhawkins4201
    @hannahhawkins4201 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +5891

    I think that he got upset when Nina mentioned his kid because he had only associated Nina with the sexual nature of their relationship and she โ€œruined his fantasyโ€ bringing him back to his reality of being a father with a WIFE. Thatโ€™s my pop psychology for today. I wonder if they would have continued if she never mentioned the kids.

    • @estrella_star
      @estrella_star 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +236

      100% my same thought

    • @kaylenkamiyah694
      @kaylenkamiyah694 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +108

      wow this was an amazing description

    • @alyssameekis4070
      @alyssameekis4070 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +70

      Perfectly put!!!

    • @jillianc7485
      @jillianc7485 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +195

      well that and also what she said WAS weird. she literally said, while knowing flirting with a married man, โ€œgive me your son.โ€ like yea sheโ€™s just at fault as he is

    • @333SarahBeth
      @333SarahBeth 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +125

      @@jillianc7485 thank you! She didn't just say he was cute. He was wrong for cheating, and perhaps he was also genuinely concerned for his baby's safety. If anyone I was dating asked to take my kid, I would also cut that person out of my life. They're probably joking, but its not worth the risk.

  • @sonnymora
    @sonnymora 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +5843

    black mirror should do an episode about family vlogging channels it would be an interesting episode since everything is online and completely open

    • @meganumberger4353
      @meganumberger4353 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +33

      OMG YESS

    • @madisonf7767
      @madisonf7767 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +166

      They could highlight how families keep trying to maintain a โ€œperfect familyโ€ visage, and itโ€™s actually harming the kids/family that isnโ€™t doing the physical vlogging. It could be turned into a sort of competition in which families enter to win some recognition (money, game, or something else) by showing the perfect lives of the family.
      For example, the 8 passengers channel could be in an episode where the mom, Ruby, enters into an online competition in which the winner gets some prize. So she starts following the competition rules (vlogging everyday, minimum time limits, interesting content, etc.) only to realize that as more and more people are eliminated and more people start watching, that itโ€™s harder to keep audiences watching. So she starts to up the ante by doing crazier and borderline sadistic pranks/punishments to her kids.
      In the end, she does something so awful that either 1) police take custody of her kids/divorced by her husband or 2) one of her kids ends up getting seriously injured and/or killed and she ends up losing custody this way.
      Ruby ends up winning the competition. But she also lost her family doing so.

    • @sonnymora
      @sonnymora 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +18

      @@madisonf7767 ayo thats smart asf

    • @katcr_1064
      @katcr_1064 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +37

      @@madisonf7767 Black mirror, run this woman a check

    • @cameongentry8264
      @cameongentry8264 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +8

      @@madisonf7767 Sis they need you cause this was like omg ๐Ÿ˜ณ

  • @pelumilabiyi
    @pelumilabiyi 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +7778

    I couldnโ€™t imagine waking up to a camera in my face and having it follow me around EVERYDAY, Iโ€™d loose my mind. I feel bad for children who have to experience that

    • @misseselise3864
      @misseselise3864 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +260

      when i was younger, i had behavioral issues and mental health issues and i would be so upset/embarrassed when my mom told family about it. i canโ€™t imagine how horrified i would be if it was shared on the internet for all to see ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

    • @publicserviceannouncement4777
      @publicserviceannouncement4777 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +45

      Well said. You have a good sense of empathy.

    • @ellexo0988
      @ellexo0988 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +55

      @@misseselise3864 fr! I donโ€™t have any mental issues I deal with but when my mom would tell family member my business I would be so embarrassed and mad at her. I would hate it to be on the internet for everyone. Also I wish you well with anything that you have going on ๐Ÿ’•

    • @mileena2637
      @mileena2637 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

      True...if I ever do do a vlog which is highly unlikely, but if I do I wiling record private moments or when they literally wake up

    • @DutchessCharm
      @DutchessCharm 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5

      That's all they know so they think it's normal

  • @Jeanine.mp4
    @Jeanine.mp4 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +8222

    Colette's response to the cheating was so heartbreaking. When she came back and talked about how she had accepted that her dream had died and that she had to grow up and be realistic.

    • @dace8828
      @dace8828 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +786

      She handled the situation with so much grace it was insane.

    • @rainbowliann
      @rainbowliann 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +461

      I felt so horrible for her bc shes so sweet. I love Colette.

    • @minniem4142
      @minniem4142 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +114

      It's sad because nina isn't the only one who put up with Shays disgusting behavior. A woman by the name of Danna Richards has alluded to the fact that shay sexually assaulted her. I don't remember much because it was a while ago but she has videos on her KRplus channel and even wrote a song about it. krplus.net/bidio/pMp6naqfjInJc5Q

    • @hollienolan1000
      @hollienolan1000 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +7

      @@minniem4142 was she the woman Avis wrote a song with? Or the woman that used to babysit for them?

    • @simplymanda523
      @simplymanda523 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +42

      Yeah I love that queen smh. She is too pure for this bs

  • @lindsaythemorallygay4586
    @lindsaythemorallygay4586 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2684

    โ€œAnd they were Mormons!โ€
    โ€œOh my gosh they were Mormons.โ€

    • @morganhall5755
      @morganhall5755 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +35

      BABAHAHAH I CANNOT

    • @rachelkania5833
      @rachelkania5833 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +15

      Omg this comment is amazing lmao ๐Ÿคฃ

    • @kelseycoca
      @kelseycoca 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +22

      as a former Mormon, this made me LOL

    • @KingOfGaymes
      @KingOfGaymes 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +15

      And nobody was surprised

    • @lindsaythemorallygay4586
      @lindsaythemorallygay4586 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +13

      @Mind ur business Yeah, my folks are Mormon so Iโ€™m pretty protective of them, but also if youโ€™re calling me a Mormonphobe I should clarify that this is a reference to a vine where the original goes:
      โ€œAND they were roommates!โ€
      โ€œOh my god, they were roommates.โ€
      krplus.net/bidio/g5Shf2OUnaLUk3o
      This is the vine
      But also saying someone is Mormon is not an insult.

  • @lilydayton5330
    @lilydayton5330 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +174

    As an ex-mormon I just wanna say that Mormon missions are not for helping the poor. The entire point of going on a mission is to convert as many people as possible and sometimes they do "service" because it helps the cause

    • @saradenhalter1141
      @saradenhalter1141 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      I'm sorry you feel that way

    • @joscelynpease6656
      @joscelynpease6656 7 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „

      Dedicating and sacrificing your life to save other souls is a service.

    • @Nick-yv1rm
      @Nick-yv1rm 7 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „ +24

      @@saradenhalter1141We are sorry you are brainwashed

    • @iiceeglam
      @iiceeglam 7 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „ +1

      I believe this because the place picked was strange to me. Going to Barbados to do mission work is like going to the Midwest to do mission work. Iโ€™m not saying that poor ppl donโ€™t exist there but none of those places are completely destitute so it has to only be converting that youโ€™re worried about.

    • @LeaverWild
      @LeaverWild 6 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „ +9

      Iโ€™m 2 years late to the party, but thank you for saying this. The idea that there are any โ€œpoorโ€ that need help from Mormons on my motherโ€™s native island is a joke. Theyโ€™re there to spread that comedy show of a religion they call the truth. Help the poorโ€ฆ. ๐Ÿฅด Foolishness!

  • @BrianaLynn7
    @BrianaLynn7 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +6597

    shay "we have really hard days" "we failed", stop saying "we" YOU CHEATED not your wife

    • @user-on9un4sr6m
      @user-on9un4sr6m 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +244

      EXACTLY NO SHIT YOURE THE ONE THAT FUCKING CHEATED POOR GIRL WAS SO LOST AND IT WAS HIS FUCKING FAULT THE WHOLE TIME??? like i know a marriage is a mutual relationship like both parties have responsibility but heโ€™s the one that fucked up bro and if i were their kids i would never forgive my father if he cheated on my mom

    • @tabithanewman99
      @tabithanewman99 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +78

      i thought the same thing

    • @OrealeXO
      @OrealeXO 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +32

      THANK YOUUUUU

    • @dorkusamericanus
      @dorkusamericanus 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +81

      Iโ€™ve noticed this trend on social media with couples lately. โ€œWe are dilated 7 metersโ€; โ€œWe are having contractionsโ€; โ€œWe are struggling and working towards reconciliationโ€ - Um, what? Can WE not?

    • @Peppered_Spores
      @Peppered_Spores 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +6

      @Izarim Preach.

  • @HelloIAmJo
    @HelloIAmJo 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +6987

    HOLD UP. This channel isnโ€™t even a year old and weโ€™re getting this quality

    • @tixtac1548
      @tixtac1548 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +320

      IKR!! You can tell that she is really serious about making content and being a content creator. She deserves so much love. :3

    • @notscythe3488
      @notscythe3488 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +114

      I thought this was a 3 yr old channel but I saw it wasnโ€™t even 7 months old

    • @notscythe3488
      @notscythe3488 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +35

      And I was so shocked

    • @jordynsumter
      @jordynsumter 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      Exactly๐Ÿ˜ญ!!!

    • @pettysquad3294
      @pettysquad3294 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +24

      @Washington05 B sheโ€™s saying itโ€™s good

  • @fruitpuff9388
    @fruitpuff9388 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +543

    "What are you gonna do, cancel your father?" Well, in terms of having a toxic or abusive family member in your life, it is often best to cut them out of your life or distance yourself from them. The ultimate cancellation.

    • @cuca_
      @cuca_ 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +8

      Trueeeeee

    • @jenna7renee
      @jenna7renee 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +5

      but cheating โ‰  toxic and abusive person
      i know many people think so, but it truly doesnโ€™t.

    • @isa-morena
      @isa-morena 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +27

      @@jenna7renee so stabbing your partner in the back isn't toxic?

    • @Bettersucksaul
      @Bettersucksaul 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +30

      @@jenna7renee cheating is the ultimate act of betrayal. It IS toxic, and it can irreparably destroy relationships and the partners sense of trust and self worth. People go to therapy after getting cheated on. You have NO respect for your partner and youโ€™re willing to lie and go behind their back and abuse their trust so you can get your nut off. Cheaters are always toxic people in general bc theyโ€™re willing to do these things with no regard for their partner.

    • @MakaylasLifee
      @MakaylasLifee 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +3

      while cheating is shitty, that doesnโ€™t mean he was treating his children bad.

  • @mirnaaguirre2979
    @mirnaaguirre2979 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +381

    Collette is a literal goddess in and out. She deserves the universe!

  • @iheartspider_man
    @iheartspider_man 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5041

    My favorite part about this whole series is the dramatic intro every time

    • @kelsynicole9135
      @kelsynicole9135 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +30

      Same here! Iโ€™ve loved watching it each time

    • @elisabetta8403
      @elisabetta8403 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5

      Warranted

    • @sadiecable8237
      @sadiecable8237 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +24

      Lmao same itโ€™s iconic

    • @brookemckinley5709
      @brookemckinley5709 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +27

      I knowwwww!! It gets me all pumped ๐Ÿ˜‚ and I donโ€™t even watch these family channels lol

    • @ishankhandelwal4160
      @ishankhandelwal4160 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5

      I was just thinking about that and saw your comment on the top๐Ÿ˜‚โค๏ธ

  • @sydsvids
    @sydsvids 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +13756

    idk how u bring the facts, the jokes, AND the looks.... but u do

  • @livvywilliams8815
    @livvywilliams8815 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +236

    Not Shay sending a whole-ass novel and Nina not replying so he goes โ€œsO AnYwAySโ€ and she finally throws him a โ€œso naughtyโ€

  • @brie3679
    @brie3679 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +773

    I met Shay and the kids when I was 16 or 17. Iโ€™d been a fan of thereโ€™s literally from the start and was one of their earliest subscribers. Iโ€™m talking...less than 500 subscribers and it was when Shay was mostly filming himself from his DJ job. The shaytards channel didnโ€™t even exist. Like before we even saw the kids really. Anyways, Iโ€™m 26 now and honestly grew up watching them. It was so bizarre when I met them because I literally knew and saw these people every day, and knew them on a very personal level....but it was completely one sided. It was actually jarring meeting them, especially the kids, Brock particularly. Every single day Iโ€™d rush home and check throughout the school day to see when he was born. I watched his birth. I knew the most intimate aspects of these peopleโ€™s DAILY lives...and they had no idea who I was. I felt like I knew them. I truly felt like they were like family to me. And they had...zero clue about me. Colette and Shay both acknowledged recognizing my name and I knew they were telling the truth because Colette commented on something Iโ€™d shared with them via social media and she showed genuine concern and was glad to hear everything was okay. They commented on how they always saw my comments on everything. But these people were complete strangers and it was honestly jarring because Iโ€™d grown up knowing more about them and seeing much more of their daily lives than I did most my family. I saw more of them than I did family members who lived like ten minutes away, and they lived across the country from me..It was bizarre. And I feel like had I not been a reasonable human, I can see how people could easily overstep. I saw a lot of people just run up and grab the kids. Someone out their arms out and went to take BABY Brock from their nanny at one point. And the sad part were most of them were literally adults... But they felt like they knew these people. Itโ€™s honestly a recipe for disaster..

    • @ToySouljah.
      @ToySouljah. 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +87

      What you just explained is called parasocial relationship, it happens often with celebrities/musicians and their fans, but the rise of youtube (and now twitch) has taken it to a whole new level and now happens much more frequently. Iโ€™m glad you were able to see the one sidedness of these type of relationships and I hope you were able to move on to a more healthier one. Take care!

    • @graceyoung3771
      @graceyoung3771 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +7

      That certainly an interesting dynamic you grew up in.

    • @rosequartz3515
      @rosequartz3515 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +14

      You are really really creepy.

    • @Kittttydotcom
      @Kittttydotcom 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      @@rosequartz3515 Yikes agreed

    • @demure1037
      @demure1037 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +8

      @@rosequartz3515 how

  • @ThatWeirdFinn
    @ThatWeirdFinn 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2550

    "First of five children named Gavin" - imagine having 5 kids called Gavin.

    • @emmamae896
      @emmamae896 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +121

      this made me laugh out loud

    • @megan2700
      @megan2700 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +60

      They either really liked the name or they had a kid named him Gavin, when the other 4 were born they went with Gavin because it worked so well last time.

    • @bricasso5795
      @bricasso5795 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +47

      โ€œHey Gavin 3 please put your shoes on!โ€

    • @Stopit999
      @Stopit999 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +27

      They could only afford one name.

    • @otdtyh
      @otdtyh 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +22

      I mean. George Foreman named all five sons George. ๐Ÿ˜‚

  • @kaiotes1344
    @kaiotes1344 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2181

    He wrote an entire watt pad story in her DMS and I CANT BREATHE WTFFF

    • @saraberisha6773
      @saraberisha6773 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      hey! dont mock George floyd ok?!

    • @kaiotes1344
      @kaiotes1344 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +245

      @@saraberisha6773 I- what ๐Ÿ˜€

    • @youtubee1239
      @youtubee1239 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +98

      @@saraberisha6773 what? She never said anything about that

    • @kaiotes1344
      @kaiotes1344 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +61

      @@saraberisha6773 you gonna respond or ๐Ÿง๐Ÿฝโ€โ™€๏ธ

    • @saraberisha6773
      @saraberisha6773 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      @@kaiotes1344 yes dont mock americaโ€™s national hero!

  • @martinez3690
    @martinez3690 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +439

    Aria Nina definitely is not innocent in this. She knew he had a family and was married, as soon as he started getting sexual she should've stopped talking to him, but she didn't. She knew exactly what she was doing and I think it's stupid to call her oblivious and a victim. There both wrong

    • @jellybean527
      @jellybean527 11 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „ +28

      @@lynguinii I know right it infuriates me when people see some of the women as victims when they knew damn well what they were doing and didnt regret it at all like she admitted to know he had a wife and said that if she could she would hook up with him like what.

    • @laylajohnson8899
      @laylajohnson8899 10 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „ +25

      Sheโ€™s not innocent but heโ€™s the one who should be loyal to his wife. She doesnโ€™t know the wife. Sheโ€™s single

    • @durrr1007
      @durrr1007 10 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „ +14

      If she didnโ€™t talk to him heโ€™d just find someone else. It wouldnโ€™t have stopped it from happening

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 8 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „ +4

      @@laylajohnson8899and maybe she should learn to not go after married people

    • @minka1781
      @minka1781 8 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „ +7

      There was only one person with a spouse here and this is the one that decided to cheat. She was wrong, sure, but she didn't swore anything to his wife, he did. It's astonishing how people try to excuse an adult man as if he had no free will and was forced to do what he did. Men cannot have it both ways- either they think with their brains and are responsible for their actions or they are some sort of animal that thinks with the other head and is lead by it, but in if it's the second how can they claim they are somehow superior to women?

  • @dayas.774
    @dayas.774 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +147

    I feel so bad that the children had to see the things that were messaged. Hope that his family is good now, and I hope that shay has done what he needs to to feel better. Hope the kids are healed and good, and hope that Colleen is good.

  • @cianib336
    @cianib336 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1971

    the statement from the child psychologist in the intro saying the kids can start their own channels and continue the cycle forever gets me every time ๐Ÿ˜ญ truly terrifying

    • @XuiLeeEv
      @XuiLeeEv 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +82

      I feel like that's what we've seen with Kylie Jenner, tbh.

    • @poutyprincess13
      @poutyprincess13 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5

      @@XuiLeeEv that's 2 generations lmao chill we haven't seen anything yet, do u know how many cousins her daughter has?

    • @XuiLeeEv
      @XuiLeeEv 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +48

      @@poutyprincess13 I don't know if I totally understand your comment, but I didn't mean anything about Kylie's daughter, just Kylie herself. She definitely grew up in the public eye, it's hard to know if she would have made many of the same choices if she'd had more privacy as a teenager.

    • @jjba3571
      @jjba3571 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      Well of course, thats what they learn, at least they decide to stop the genarational trauma, that wont stop ever

    • @poutyprincess13
      @poutyprincess13 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      @@XuiLeeEv ah i misunderstood your comment as an attack saying that kylie was breeding a new generation on purpose

  • @kjlandon9140
    @kjlandon9140 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2489

    Gavin will be 18 this year. I wonder if theyโ€™ll be the first family vlog kids to truly speak out about their expereience

    • @rojinhrn8485
      @rojinhrn8485 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +81

      Really hope so

    • @marissaleafe1793
      @marissaleafe1793 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +249

      Gavin definitely seems to be over it, I wonder how he feels looking back at it now too. Meanwhile Avia has her own channel now hamming it up ๐Ÿ˜‚ it is cute though, I would assume it was her choice to make it.

    • @tyreek.6815
      @tyreek.6815 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +54

      Why do they need to speak on their experience like itโ€™s for us to know? If they are over it or at least positive with their family why do they need to bring it up?

    • @ishy6875
      @ishy6875 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +74

      @@tyreek.6815 funny how a big part of this video was talking about when you're constantly infront of cameras for millions of people to see you, even at your worst moments, yet they want him to come out and open up old wounds for their amusement.

    • @tyreek.6815
      @tyreek.6815 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +20

      @@ishy6875 right!!!!! Their family has moved on while also dealing with being a family. The kids donโ€™t need to do anything. Thatโ€™s there own struggles and life. Just because this situation happens doesnโ€™t mean the kids need to speak out on a dead past that they moved on from.

  • @user-zw8lw3cv7l
    @user-zw8lw3cv7l 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

    omg, i love your content so much. it feels like a chat with a friend, when you are both preparing for a party or something and your friend is telling you an interesting detailed story BUT it is also about the best topics, like true crime or shady internet cases. thank you so much for this, your videos are literally one of the best lesuire time activities for me ๐Ÿ–ค

  • @cheerznjeerz
    @cheerznjeerz 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +18

    I'm very impressed by your research, editing , and personality. And to accomplish so much at such a young age! Keep up the good work and I wish you so much success in your future.

  • @abs202
    @abs202 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1375

    the fact that i was OBSESSED with this family is actually really sad

    • @Alex-mf7cs
      @Alex-mf7cs 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +62

      wow really? this is my first time hearing about them

    • @Jackmitchhell
      @Jackmitchhell 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +10

      Same as me:/

    • @Angellenaaa
      @Angellenaaa 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +81

      he was my youtube dad and then hearing that he cheated really did break my heart cos he filled that missing dad spot ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ’”

    • @naturalbeautie1452
      @naturalbeautie1452 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +13

      Same I watch their channel religiouslyโ˜น๏ธ

    • @viviathans
      @viviathans 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +16

      fr same they were a big part of my childhood

  • @urfavoritemineral
    @urfavoritemineral 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +3475

    The vibe of your room, no distracting music, casually getting ready, while exposing people
    *im obsessed*

    • @yasyays8460
      @yasyays8460 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +60

      and she barely puts ads too!

    • @kiwikiwi2483
      @kiwikiwi2483 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +3

      Girls are weird lol. I'll never understand them

    • @yasyays8460
      @yasyays8460 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +56

      @@kiwikiwi2483 if you donโ€™t like it click off itโ€™s not that hard๐Ÿ˜

    • @kiwikiwi2483
      @kiwikiwi2483 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      @@yasyays8460 You seem offended, over what though? You worry about your problems and I'll worry about mine ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿพโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿ˜‚

    • @kiwikiwi2483
      @kiwikiwi2483 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

      @Alisha Dorleans Is there a rule somewhere that states I have to be asked to speak on something? Where I live, we have something called the first amendment. And I'm pretty sure nothing in the KRplus TOS doesn't require anyone to be asked to say something before they do. If something changes though please, let me know ๐Ÿ˜‚

  • @amandac159
    @amandac159 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +9

    Girl I just watched all 3 episodes in one sitting. No skipping. That says a lot. You def gained a new subscriber! So articulate with your words holy crap lovedddddd this 3 part series ๐Ÿค

  • @ariannazilberleyb4032
    @ariannazilberleyb4032 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +78

    Confession: I used to watch the Shaytards all the time when I was younger, but stopped when the seemingly disappeared. At the time, I didn't know about the whole cheating scandal. Needless to say, I completely stopped watching them after learning about it.
    And going a bit off topic, but I noticed that so many family vloggers are Mormons. No matter how "wholesome" they try to act, there's just something so off about those channels (Like 8 Passengers). They just radiate toxicity

    • @kjeracarroll450
      @kjeracarroll450 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

      That is because a lot of KRplusrs are toxic naturally. It has nothing to do with their religion. There are so many good people in the religion. KRplusrs arenโ€™t necessarily a good representation of members. Unfortunately the extreme or the loud ones out there filming get the attention and get noticed. But they donโ€™t represent everyone.

    • @shotabsf
      @shotabsf 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +12

      @@kjeracarroll450 there are definitely issues with the mormon religion. i recommend you to watch jordan & mckay

    • @kjeracarroll450
      @kjeracarroll450 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +3

      @@shotabsf I donโ€™t need to watch anything on it when I know so many in the religion and I live it myself. The problem, just like any group of people or religion is the people, especially the extreme or radical people or people who make poor choices. They donโ€™t represent everyone. There are people who donโ€™t live what the actual religion teaches. It all comes down to humans. Humans make mistakes. I donโ€™t know why people feel they need to hold a tribunal for religions. I have seen enough KRplus videos about the religion that has been twisted into different peopleโ€™s point of view and opinion. What I have learned over the years is some donโ€™t actually learn what it is about or what it means and get the wrong idea of what it is. Another, when people are angry at a religion and leave it, they canโ€™t leave it alone and will attack it. They say things that arenโ€™t true, or they never learned real truths. So many people only know the culture of the LDS religion and not so much the doctrine. Which really do not go hand in hand. Some how in some areas say like Utah, they have created a culture that doesnโ€™t go with the teachings of the religion. What people need to understand is, the church is a global one. You will find amazing people all over the world who are LDS. Who are kind, loving people. Taking someoneโ€™s word for it that left isnโ€™t always what you should go off of. I know who you are referencing and I have seen a bit of their stuff and guess it what, itโ€™s strange, it weird, irreverent and does not represent what the church really is. That is my two cents.

    • @sheviper
      @sheviper ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „

      There's definitely racist and sexist ideology in Mormon religion though โ€‹@@kjeracarroll450

  • @Chelciejette
    @Chelciejette 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2741

    As someone who used to watch the Shaytards religiously in 07-11 (when I was a teenager), I do feel you skipped over the fact that the family started out as struggling financially. They were this kind of rags to riches story, that we could see every step of their journey since they had daily vlogs. While I don't watch family vlogs now, I feel like that was what made people like myself such big fans back then. They were real, and felt like our own family. I think that's important to note. They're very different than Influencer families are now, and if you watched them back then in real time you would know what I was talking about. (Obviosuly that eventually changed, and you covered their downfall very well)

    • @amandahugginkiss9065
      @amandahugginkiss9065 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +85

      I've never watched them so thank you for sharing that bit of info

    • @megscs
      @megscs 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +131

      I watched them when I was a teenager too. They were the only family vlogging channel I watched and I felt like I was part of their family, because I have a big family as well and they had a "normal" Life like us. When the scandal happened I felt so sad and disgusted with Shay that I could never watch them again or any other family channel.
      It also scared me to think that something like that could happen to me. Because they looked so happy and nice.. And to have a family and then your husband does that. Must be hard to leave him :(

    • @bobbieproductions4491
      @bobbieproductions4491 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +31

      That is so true. As a brazilian child that was raised with an american culture (my parents and siblings lived in the USA for years but I have never been there) watching the Shaytards family was very nice and showed a realistic family in the USA that my mother would talk about it to me everyday. It made me not only fell in love with the USA but also learn english way more than what my family would teach me. My biological father wasn't present in my childhood but I had a stepfather and I would always think about how similar the two looked (Shay and my dad). And I guess they were very similar because my stepfather also cheated on my mother. And I'm also the same age as the oldest son. It's crazy of how similar we are.

    • @megscs
      @megscs 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +12

      @@bobbieproductions4491 it's harder because we saw similarities between these people and our real family. My biological father also wasnt present in my life and I often didnt get along with my step father. So it was nice to see a father having a good relationship with his kids

    • @susanita0407
      @susanita0407 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

      I agree

  • @semiprotita
    @semiprotita 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1223

    Wow, I feel like it's the afternoon and I am sitting in Hailey's bed reading magazines while she's in front of the mirror and doing her make up while talking about some gossip at school

    • @HaileyElizabethh
      @HaileyElizabethh  3 ๋…„ ์ „ +262

      omg thats such a cute scenario ๐Ÿ˜ญ

    • @itsmickeyrip2284
      @itsmickeyrip2284 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +25

      THIS

    • @semiprotita
      @semiprotita 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +25

      @@HaileyElizabethh Yah, like I'm hanging out with you in your house after school ๐Ÿ˜

  • @eggie1583
    @eggie1583 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +68

    TEA SUGGESTION :
    9:45
    (I am an Indian ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ so we do take tea, chai, very seriously)
    Boil little more than a cup of water on your stove in a saucepan
    Add about two tsp of Darjeeling tea leaves or brook bond tea (not herbal added one just simple plain chai patti)
    and crushed ginger (little smaller than half inch)
    in cup of water
    let it boil for 5 mins to 10 mins then
    Sugar (to taste)
    Little milk (don't add too much, just personal preference)
    About a tablespoon or two maybe.
    Ginger will help your throat a lot.
    It's a regular practice in our Indian household
    Especially in winters
    You can add some crushed tulsi leaves (2-3) too
    Amazing health benefits
    I am sorry I suck at measurements
    I usually do it by 'andaaza' umm idea of doing it because of regular practice.
    But it taste really good
    Hope you enjoy it.
    All the best for your channel :)

    • @moma3587
      @moma3587 2 ๋…„ ์ „

      theres so much other seeds and things that go into chaiโ€ฆjust the teabag is disgusting

    • @eggie1583
      @eggie1583 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      @@moma3587 we don't use tea bags in India that much

  • @ameliaearhart666
    @ameliaearhart666 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    I love your insight and the effort you put into these stories. You deserve every success!

  • @Kenzi24
    @Kenzi24 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2984

    Collette deserves a good man. I mean I know we only see what's on camera, but she seems like an angel on earth

    • @getmad3013
      @getmad3013 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

      and Shay is not a good man ?

    • @haleighholden5259
      @haleighholden5259 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +461

      @@getmad3013 he literally cheated on her soooo...no? Heโ€™s not?

    • @Kenzi24
      @Kenzi24 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +144

      @@getmad3013 WHAT?! No he is not a good man.

    • @RipleySpacePrincess
      @RipleySpacePrincess 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +177

      @@getmad3013 did you miss the part where he cheated on his wife like several times? Lol no he is not a good man

    • @virginiaelizabeth4577
      @virginiaelizabeth4577 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +29

      Shay made a horrible mistake but u can't say he's a horrible person bc of that mistake. the way he reacted to that mistake makes him seem like a decent person to me. y'all must be v young to be saying that.

  • @pittcult6189
    @pittcult6189 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1666

    hailey, you could literally talk about taco bell paper napkins for 30 minutes and i'd listen to you intently

  • @JocelynChun
    @JocelynChun 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

    I've been wanting someone to do a video like this for years since I followed them so closely and they really lifted me out of my depression :/ Thanks for this!!

  • @divyawashere
    @divyawashere 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +64

    Hey, I'm a Pisces and May 5th is considered to be a Taurean. I'm so sorry to be that person but we don't claim him, literally! ๐Ÿ˜ญ

    • @lolznono
      @lolznono 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +6

      lmao yeah she meant march 5th ๐Ÿ˜ญ

    • @divyawashere
      @divyawashere 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      @@lolznono omg so he is a Pisces !

    • @lolznono
      @lolznono 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

      @@divyawashere yep!

    • @Chiiyna
      @Chiiyna 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

      #that part ๐Ÿ˜‚ โ™“๏ธ

  • @noeliaramirez-olvera4414
    @noeliaramirez-olvera4414 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1241

    I live in the same town as the Shaytards and I see them countless of times, and you can tell that they are slowly trying to heal, and just keep to themselves and the kids are also just trying to live a โ€œnormalโ€ life. They genuinely do seem happy whenever I see them around.

    • @noeliaramirez-olvera4414
      @noeliaramirez-olvera4414 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +187

      Also to note I always see Colette on her own especially with the girls and I think thatโ€™s her way of healing. Same with Shay his way of healing is snowboarding in the mountains.

    • @gabrielleodell5929
      @gabrielleodell5929 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +48

      why do i feel bad for all of themmmmm

    • @madisnzz
      @madisnzz 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +14

      this comment deserves more likes D:

    • @Deenique16
      @Deenique16 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +15

      @@gabrielleodell5929 the children yes but. Who knows maybe they are decent parents

    • @jennbaker8476
      @jennbaker8476 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +47

      iโ€™m happy that theyโ€™re doing better. i used to love them and loved them until all of this came out. itโ€™s been so many years and while itโ€™s inexcusable, iโ€™m happy that theyโ€™re healing and becoming strong again. especially for the kids

  • @abstractness
    @abstractness 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +697

    Iโ€™ll never understand why some parents feel the need to broadcast all of their childโ€™s every moment on KRplus.

    • @akilahlayan
      @akilahlayan 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +41

      I truly think it starts off as just innocently wanting to document family moments for the sake of keeping them and looking back, but then they start profiting and money changes everything!

    • @00imz
      @00imz 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

      fr tho. they always end up wanting to profit off of their children even when they donโ€™t always want to be filmed, at their most vulnerable too

    • @tiffprendergast
      @tiffprendergast 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      Yup

    • @tiffprendergast
      @tiffprendergast 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

      @@00imz yup

  • @fizzzycat4389
    @fizzzycat4389 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +43

    Iโ€™ve had a very strained relationship with my father most my life and there was a couple years, around age 13, that shay genuinely filled that fatherly role in my life. I watched the vlog every day and would wish he was my dad. Stopped watching when they went on their first long break and I was older.
    This video is rough :( when he was talking about Colette having moved out it absolutely broke my heart. I just hope they can all heal from this in anyway they can.

    • @digitalglitch1005
      @digitalglitch1005 10 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „ +1

      Same, I would watch them while my mom and dad would argue to distract myself and wish I was apart of that family.

  • @sleeplessstudios7626
    @sleeplessstudios7626 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +19

    Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we traveled back in time and told the producers of The Truman Show that the concept of a child having their entire life recorded for the entertainment of others would become a reality for dozens of children everywhere.

  • @k3shk3sh
    @k3shk3sh 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1631

    Lowkey sad the series is over, but this basically just shows how much people try to lie and cover up just for views, money, and fame.
    Edit: 9:47 I recommend trying ginger tea and adding around a spoon full of sugar and/or honey, itโ€™s helped me with sore throats, migraines and allergies!

    • @ad_kk16
      @ad_kk16 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +41

      She could do a couples vlog series. Like CTFxC, Jesse and Jeana, Lance and Lizzy, Colleen and Joshua, etc. How having a career and vlogging (working together) every day can have a huge impact on the relationship, especially just being well known and having to have a breakup video to share with everyone.

    • @k3shk3sh
      @k3shk3sh 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +14

      @@ad_kk16 holy shizz thatโ€™s actually a good idea! I would definitely look forward to seeing a series like that

    • @sadiecable8237
      @sadiecable8237 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +7

      Sameeeee, we defo need more series like these, even if it means waiting a bit longer, i know it will be worth it!!

    • @elisabef
      @elisabef 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      to ur edit itโ€™s better to add honey instead of sugar but if u prefer sugar thatโ€™s ok just letting u kno!

    • @ccddle
      @ccddle 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      @@elisabef local raw honey.

  • @Kaykokovids
    @Kaykokovids 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +507

    I feel awful for that kid who wasn't even a full hour old and already had a camera in his face. I cant imagine growing up like that๐Ÿ˜ฌ

    • @kade3788
      @kade3788 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +8

      To be fair, most newborns are endlessly filmed and have their pictures taken. I get your point tho lol

  • @catherinewisniewski4333
    @catherinewisniewski4333 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    I just found your channel, and Iโ€™m obsessed. You said in a different video youโ€™re not the best makeup artist, but Iโ€™m definitely taking notes. Iโ€™ve loved all your looks so far, you make fun makeup looks feel more everyday and wearable :) I also love knowing everyoneโ€™s star signs ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ itโ€™s such a nice touch.

  • @deIcorazon
    @deIcorazon 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    youโ€™re amazing, thank you for this series

  • @trilynn9202
    @trilynn9202 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +750

    why there are so many families like this, will never fail to confuzzle me

    • @cozyjohnson7068
      @cozyjohnson7068 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +13

      i KNOOOOO IT MAKES NO SENSEEE (hehe also love how u said confuzzle lol i say that sometimes too)

    • @desireescott8814
      @desireescott8814 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      Confound, befuddle.

  • @melaaaaaaaaaaa
    @melaaaaaaaaaaa 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +985

    My heart breaks for Collette. She had to leave her dream home and separate her kids from their father, all while maintaining her religious beliefs and finding her own self. Shay is fucked up. I hope she finds someone deserving of her :/

  • @1314Lermanlover
    @1314Lermanlover 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    Ummm.....so I've been binging your videos over the past few days and I have to say....I'm obsessed, literally love the topics the makeup and your energy can't wait to watch more

  • @ceairramccarter6398
    @ceairramccarter6398 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    Just wanted to give you a shout out! This was a really really good series!! I normally only watch true crime. This is the first Iโ€™ve watched that wasnโ€™t true crime! You kept me interested for sure!

  • @Himynameisyaya
    @Himynameisyaya 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5162

    I hate how women allow themselves to stay in relationships with people who cheat on them. Cheating is not a mistake or an accident. Its a conscious decision and she should love and respect herself more. Stop staying for kids or to keep up the picture of a โ€œperfectโ€ marriage. There are genuine people in this world who will love and respect you

    • @new-om9pq
      @new-om9pq 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +573

      Get Mad why is it her responsibility to fix *his* problems ๐Ÿ˜’? Isn't it *his* job as a husband and father to stay faithful to his wife and children? Tuh

    • @virginiaelizabeth4577
      @virginiaelizabeth4577 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +240

      when u have a child, much less 5, & spent most of your life w someone it's not that easy to leave them. but it's easy to say u would from an outside perspective.

    • @jaylacarter1694
      @jaylacarter1694 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +75

      I bet you I'll leave...kids and all. My mom did it with 6 ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

    • @virginiaelizabeth4577
      @virginiaelizabeth4577 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +164

      @@jaylacarter1694 good for her, seriously, but unfortunately not all women are that strong nor have the finances to leave. it's a very complicated situation.

    • @samhope2127
      @samhope2127 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

      Exactly

  • @itzyegurlvanessa
    @itzyegurlvanessa 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +646

    Hailey always eats up these deep dives and leaves no crumbs

    • @taylorcole9514
      @taylorcole9514 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

      Every time ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

    • @AddBowIfGirl
      @AddBowIfGirl 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5

      Stop talking like this.

    • @imthatfoodie3036
      @imthatfoodie3036 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

      @@AddBowIfGirl They can talk how they want to.

    • @AddBowIfGirl
      @AddBowIfGirl 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +11

      @@imthatfoodie3036
      If course. But itโ€™s annoying when nonblack people commandeer black slang.

    • @tokofukawa4654
      @tokofukawa4654 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5

      @@AddBowIfGirl the channel is faceless
      i agree with your point but you donโ€™t know if they are or not

  • @niamhgargan8759
    @niamhgargan8759 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    Love all your videos, youโ€™re always speaking about interesting topics! Thank you ๐Ÿ™

  • @vickys1321
    @vickys1321 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +7

    I watched Shayโ€™s vlogs every single day as a kid, when one day I turned on the computer and he stopped uploading. I remember being so excited when he uploaded again. I just watched this video and I had no idea for all these years. This broke my heart. All the love I can give goes out to Colette and the kids. I hope Shay is recovering and learning from his mistakes.

  • @Bellas61
    @Bellas61 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1030

    Dude I used to watch them religiously in highschool. I was so envious of their family and how loving they were towards each other. Obsessed with how good they were at expressing their emotions and how open they were with each other and how much fun they had as a family. Which are things that I felt lacking in my own family. It was such an awakening to realize that they might not have been that perfect behind closed doors.

    • @justaperson4475
      @justaperson4475 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +39

      Same, I loved watching them especially watching how all the kids were treated with so much love and affection. I was so envious now Iโ€™m like yeah great .

    • @iamjuanmenchaca
      @iamjuanmenchaca ๋…„ ์ „ +7

      I remember watching saying to myself I love this, I want this, I will have this one day in my life. A beautiful family. It's is now May 23rd, 2022. Three days away from my 10th wedding anniversary. And about to file for divorce. Life is a big fucking disappointment.

  • @LuisGonzalez-nc8qb
    @LuisGonzalez-nc8qb 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +3567

    โ€œWe are not giving up on our relationshipโ€ you mean SHE isnโ€™t ๐Ÿคจ you already gave up lmao

  • @triciamuir
    @triciamuir 8 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „ +1

    Great doc series! Facebook suggested, years ago, I follow ACE family and I'm not one to follow parents that promote their kids, personal life, I didn't even find it interesting, but that's just me. Can def see how the constant public eye and lack of privacy, especially for the kids, can be destructive. Seems like money is the motivator. Great job! โค

  • @maggierolseth2375
    @maggierolseth2375 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    So proud of this series! Great job!!

  • @leef7002
    @leef7002 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +464

    i used to idolize them as a little kid because i came from a broken home. i wanted a family like theirs.

    • @heatherhaynes1988
      @heatherhaynes1988 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +56

      ๐Ÿฅบ I feel this... I feel like a lot of children do this.

    • @princessmorebucks
      @princessmorebucks 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +8

      One good thing out of this is that now you see that every family has problems. Youโ€™re not from a broken home, youโ€™re from a normal home ๐Ÿ’œ

    • @yokootersmellfunky
      @yokootersmellfunky 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +70

      @@princessmorebucks well this sentence could actually be damaging in a way but sure

    • @user-ij1we3qd6u
      @user-ij1we3qd6u 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +68

      @@princessmorebucks that statement is very wrong to say because people could hear that while being abused and think that being abused is normal and not seek for help which could ruin their life

    • @rosamy2017
      @rosamy2017 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +3

      Youโ€™ll have to make your own! ๐Ÿฅฐ

  • @nicoledeveraux4322
    @nicoledeveraux4322 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +620

    I thought maybe you might have talked about Myka Stauffer and her husbandโ€™s family channel because of the awful shit they pulled with their formerly adopted child. This was very informative, though, I was entirely unaware of the situation with this family. Thank you for making this series!

    • @TuesdaysArt
      @TuesdaysArt 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +7

      They adopted another child? Or did the adopted child get renamed?

    • @anais937
      @anais937 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +52

      Sheโ€™s absolutely awful. When you adopt a special needs child you are aware of how taxing it is. She is so selfish adopting him knowing the child has attachment issues. She used him for views then rehoused him when it got hard.

    • @TuesdaysArt
      @TuesdaysArt 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

      @UC3PEjLWT_ZiPKAaDe4rsAGw I remember the Myka Stauffer situation, but the adopted son's name wasn't Luke afaik.

    • @jeonghanfication
      @jeonghanfication 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +7

      omg yes i requested this in her last video as well but i don't think she saw it. i really want her to cover this!

    • @elle4520
      @elle4520 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +6

      myka needs her own series

  • @dianadee7209
    @dianadee7209 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    you're ending was SO good! thank you for the great series would def subscribed to you and very excited for more videos from you:)

  • @kileyiskool93
    @kileyiskool93 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    Followed them from the beginning and was always curious of what crazy went on. Thanks!

  • @Morganne
    @Morganne 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +3345

    use steamed lemonade instead of water for your fruity teas!

    • @hope.hurts_
      @hope.hurts_ 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +125

      ooo interesting! i will try that. is there a particular way to steam the lemonade or am i just reading into it too much?

    • @Morganne
      @Morganne 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +240

      @@hope.hurts_ so I worked at Starbucks and we used a milk frother but you can literally just heat it on the stove or microwave like youโ€™d typically do with the water you use for tea!

    • @kiziahxoxo9004
      @kiziahxoxo9004 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +15

      @@Morganne how should I steam it?

    • @madigable2125
      @madigable2125 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +35

      Is the lemonade sweetened beforehand? Like can I do it with the lemonade in the jug you can buy at the store or is it better to use home made lemonade

    • @hope.hurts_
      @hope.hurts_ 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +10

      @@Morganne oh okay! thank you so much ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ

  • @spikyleaf
    @spikyleaf 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1263

    I obvs donโ€™t agree with him having an affair but he was messaging very explicit stuff and her follow up on the convo is โ€œI want your son and heโ€™s so cuteโ€ thatโ€™s so creepy and weird considering the nature of their conversations

    • @Lauraphoid
      @Lauraphoid 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +214

      Ye, they were both creeps

    • @poutyprincess13
      @poutyprincess13 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +131

      okay literally because why would she say that

    • @saraiportillo6256
      @saraiportillo6256 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +77

      no fr cause idk the way she said it was kinda creepy ngl

    • @jesalopez660
      @jesalopez660 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +77

      It's called deflecting or trying to change the subject. When a guy sends me explicit messages that I didnt ask for I'll completely avoid the explicit conversation by asking about their kids or wives. HE was thinking about sex, she was not. We talk about their kids to distract them bc surely you're not pleasuring yourself at my expense while talking about you're children. Guys don't understand how gross unsolicited sexual messaging and pictures truly is. They don't understand how uncomfortable it makes us, or they don't care, they're only thinking of themselves bc when I change the subject, the messages stop completely, until they're ready to try again.

    • @cattbutt7758
      @cattbutt7758 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +104

      @@jesalopez660 she said herself though that she actively participated in the sexual conversations. It wasn't unsolicited. They were both benefitting from the sexual messages. She just never showed her responses to the messages, which i guess is fine but she said herself they were both sending very sexual content to eachother

  • @jasmainebrodie5339
    @jasmainebrodie5339 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    I just started watching you & this series lol I love you already ๐Ÿ˜‚

  • @andysteele5667
    @andysteele5667 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +10

    โ€œweโ€™re not giving up on our marriage! iโ€™m not giving up!โ€ he gave up when he cheated. thats a lifetime of trust issues and nothing can fix that.

  • @catherineschroeder1295
    @catherineschroeder1295 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +710

    I SWEARRRR every SINGLE family channel is Mormon!!!! Like theyโ€™re all from around Utah and end up moving somewhere. But all the family channels are Mormon itโ€™s so weird ๐Ÿฅธ

    • @tiffprendergast
      @tiffprendergast 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +15

      Yeah

    • @jojocarat527
      @jojocarat527 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +14

      Literally ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ

    • @lydia1795
      @lydia1795 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +7

      yeah fr what is with that

    • @kaylasheppard7746
      @kaylasheppard7746 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +97

      Ex Mormon here. Mormons are also known for performative arts, like dancing/singing, etc. Mormons also have that mommy vlogging/perfect Pinterest mom stuff on lock. And they ALSO perfected the art of the MLM hustle for stay at home moms.
      So, combine all the elements, it's no surprise to me lol.

    • @oopsy-daisy
      @oopsy-daisy 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5

      OMG I JUST REALIZED THAT

  • @trilynn9202
    @trilynn9202 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1087

    oh queen posted, time to grab the popcorn

    • @oliviacrater9189
      @oliviacrater9189 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      Yepp

    • @Idk-nv6hg
      @Idk-nv6hg 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

      @LEXI CAVALLO ๐Ÿ‘€ pass me some of that-

    • @ps1hagridoufofcharacter
      @ps1hagridoufofcharacter 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +3

      ohhh great idea imma go make some
      edit: i have it AND some pepsi with it
      edit2: ugh i forgot i dont like pepsi why am i like this

    • @Idk-nv6hg
      @Idk-nv6hg 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +3

      @LEXI CAVALLO
      ๐Ÿช‚
      ๐Ÿ•ณ

    • @junieplays2466
      @junieplays2466 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

      when the only popcorn u have is disgusting ๐Ÿ–๏ธ๐Ÿ˜ญ

  • @noeliosis3775
    @noeliosis3775 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    Appreciate this project you had put together here. I felt you we're fair, unbiased, and factual. Appreciate that. I used to watch them daily, but totally dropped off around 2010. Interesting to see what has happened over the last 11 years. Crazy stuff, all that money and fame can go to your head... the wrong one I guess.

  • @lyssaschei2881
    @lyssaschei2881 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

    Just would like to say you gained a subscriber and you talked about this situation so eloquently. I grew up in the town where Shay and Collette live so when this all happened it was a huge deal. I've never been a ShayTards fan myself (Carlie used to come into my work trying to get women to join her MLM, and they also bought the local ski hill and made the prices for lift tickets higher which sucks because we're a low income community) but I've always felt for their kids and the situation this put them and Collette in.

  • @Idk-nv6hg
    @Idk-nv6hg 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +488

    i love how you include their โœจzodiac signsโœจ ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

    • @ozili5019
      @ozili5019 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +48

      on that note, how is Shay pisces if he was born in early May? wouldn't that make him taurus?

    • @Idk-nv6hg
      @Idk-nv6hg 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +10

      @@ozili5019 i read another comment and she said that she did mess up!

    • @SoonIwillbeawake
      @SoonIwillbeawake 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +20

      He is born March 5th which would make him a Pisces. She might of said the wrong month

    • @cozyjohnson7068
      @cozyjohnson7068 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      HAHAHHA YES

    • @Lauraphoid
      @Lauraphoid 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      I hate it :D

  • @potatochip2123
    @potatochip2123 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +385

    i find it funny that he basically wrote a smut fanfic about himself when he was talking to nina

    • @loserplanet
      @loserplanet 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +43

      I was second hand embarrassed for him. Like CRINGE.....๐Ÿคข

  • @briannastachowiak7838
    @briannastachowiak7838 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

    The Shaytards hits so close to home. I grew up watching their videos, nearly from the very beginning and after hearing about what Shay did. It absolutely destroyed me.

  • @Zero-xd5pp
    @Zero-xd5pp 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    Wow you did an amazing job with your research. Iโ€™ve been watching them since the beginning and you covered everything.

  • @warsscarsplanetmars
    @warsscarsplanetmars 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +455

    I used to watch Shaytards as a kid, I come from a really broken family and watched them, envious of a โ€œhappy familyโ€. It pains me how much of it was a lie.

    • @livb1657
      @livb1657 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +7

      i hope youre doing ok now!

    • @kaiaswrld
      @kaiaswrld 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +13

      Same. I wanted to be like them so bad. I watched their channel religiously and Iโ€™m so sad they went downhill:(

    • @warsscarsplanetmars
      @warsscarsplanetmars 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

      @@livb1657 thank you for such a lovely message dear! Iโ€™m doing okay as I can right now ๐Ÿ’“

    • @livb1657
      @livb1657 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      @@warsscarsplanetmars of course! im glad, well wishes :) ๐Ÿ’•

    • @Grace-ev2hp
      @Grace-ev2hp 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      same.

  • @brianaluna6571
    @brianaluna6571 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    this has probably been one of the most intreating series iโ€™ve watched

  • @simone41796
    @simone41796 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    This series made me a new subscriber, Iโ€™ve been looking for another channel like yours (Like Bailey a.k.a. murder mystery make up Monday)
    IM HOOKED GIRLโค๏ธโค๏ธ

  • @misseselise3864
    @misseselise3864 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +151

    the trailer being released in 2013 when it wasnโ€™t planned on being released until 2016 reminds me of how the trailer for frozen was released years before the film was released. like my cousins favorite movie is frozen and she wasnโ€™t even born when the trailer was released

  • @lolno1755
    @lolno1755 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +295

    girl you should do a video on sister cellmate next, james charles has been through so much scandals and it would be interesting to have a summary of some of the most important ones

  • @bbyfirefly
    @bbyfirefly 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    So Iโ€™m late to this series but just wanted to say Iโ€™m really enjoying you and your videos & Iโ€™ve subscribed! โฃ๏ธ

  • @amandanoack-cogland8005
    @amandanoack-cogland8005 2 ๋…„ ์ „

    Just found your channel. Thanks for this series. I didn't know anything about these 3 families.

  • @taylorgumb5418
    @taylorgumb5418 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1419

    Ok but why did keemstar say โ€œwhy did you do this when he has a familyโ€ why did he cheat on his wife and ruin his relationship with his children why is it her fault

    • @OOOuise
      @OOOuise 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +193

      it takes two to tango - would you start/continue a relationship with someone if you knew they had a family or were married? I fucking wouldn't

    • @xxcallmeniaxx3272
      @xxcallmeniaxx3272 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +262

      @@OOOuise is she free from responsibility no, but most of the responsibility falls on him he is the one who cheated, he is the one who reached out first, he is the one who knew he had a family and made sure to sext her when his family was a asleep blame shouldn't shift to just her he was the one who chose to do this.

    • @thealipoop
      @thealipoop 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +102

      cause keemstar has rocks for brains

    • @Em-oc6nv
      @Em-oc6nv 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +88

      she said she loved the family and the vlogs. then she contributed to ruining their entire family.

    • @vadr0ka
      @vadr0ka 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +80

      She knew he was married and personally, if you know someone is married and you still talk to them, you are just as guilty.

  • @yourmom6318
    @yourmom6318 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +590

    Wish she could continue this series and discuss more channels

    • @Alex-mf7cs
      @Alex-mf7cs 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      she quiting?

    • @shakiravelez4381
      @shakiravelez4381 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +24

      @@Alex-mf7cs sheโ€™s not quitting but these videos about family blogs are a small series she did that consisted of 3 different family blogs :) so she will continue making videos but this specific series dealing with family channels is over

    • @yourmom6318
      @yourmom6318 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      No

    • @riverwolf6546
      @riverwolf6546 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      yes

  • @lindashrugemoji9351
    @lindashrugemoji9351 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

    so i consistently watched the shatyards from like 2009-2014 and they never showed any negative aspects of their life. like maybe something annoying would happen but it was never a โ€œoh no what will we doโ€ kind of situation. they really did show their life in such a positive lens and iโ€™m sure that put a lot of pressure on the whole family to be โ€œonโ€ for the camera and to not do or say anything that would change that perception. their life seemed so great to me that when i was at one of the most depressed i had ever been, i nearly became mormon because i saw how happy they were. luckily, my friends and family were like โ€œdo notโ€ but their life seemed amazing. i truly hope the kids arenโ€™t messed up from being on camera for so much of their lives.

  • @aomayosayyo8925
    @aomayosayyo8925 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +6

    I just watched all 3 videos, have no clue who they are but you def did a great job condensing it all. And I was really impressed with the makeup and it makes me want to do a video just to put makeup on๐Ÿ‘

  • @jessw02
    @jessw02 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +285

    when I was younger I was obsessed with watching the shaytards,
    only when I got older I realised how wrong it is to put your child's entire life out there like that, when the shaytards scandal happened it felt so weird knowing information that was a family issue and shouldn't be public, I do remember being sad when they announced they were taking time off, but now I'm just happy that brock & daxtons entire childhood wont be overshared quite as much as the other three.

    • @cawesomewhatever
      @cawesomewhatever 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

      I love that too I felt the same way as you did. I started watching when they were pregnant with Daxton and remembered when the came out with the birth vlog. I see how people like to make videos to remember their family and that is what I feel like they were trying to do. It can be unhealthy to do that to kids too because of the world but having family videos is completely different.

  • @bb.carebear
    @bb.carebear 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +672

    I hate how collete and shay both talked about their relationship and him cheating as some โ€œrough patchโ€ they talked about how theyโ€™re struggling and how relationships are hard work ect but.. cheating isnโ€™t just a โ€œrough patchโ€ cheating isnโ€™t normal in most relationships. Cheating is a horrible way of saying โ€œI donโ€™t truly love you and donโ€™t wanna be with youโ€ I get that she loves him and loves him to much to let go but I see her trying her hardest to justify what he did as a โ€œrough patchโ€ and โ€œrelationships arenโ€™t perfectโ€

    • @TheGamerz_Hub
      @TheGamerz_Hub 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +75

      I agree relationships arenโ€™t perfect but cheating is not a mistake and not okay.

    • @thirzagarcia6936
      @thirzagarcia6936 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +63

      I mean, yeah. Cheating on your partner is disgusting and shouldn't be justified. But you can't blame them for trying to stay together, that's up to them. I don't think you should say that just because of how they handled the situation.

    • @stephhhsmiiith
      @stephhhsmiiith 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +42

      EXACTLY they're acting like their cheating is perfectly normal, just like a little fight in a relationship. colette let him off easy. its honestly gross that shed go back to that tbh because of how disgusting shay is.

    • @Anitamustdie
      @Anitamustdie 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +23

      YUP cheating is disgusting and honestly anyone who does it literally can die

    • @bb.carebear
      @bb.carebear 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +12

      @@thirzagarcia6936 Iโ€™m not blaming them. Iโ€™m just saying itโ€™s wrong how theyโ€™re trying to justify it and trying to act like itโ€™s normal

  • @kaethanx
    @kaethanx 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +14

    I would never give him another chance and then share that publicly. If I had to read messages like that from my partner I canโ€™t continue. Thatโ€™s fucking wild

  • @DemonBunnyQueen
    @DemonBunnyQueen 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    I love the Umbrella Academy poster! Great vid! โ™ฅ๏ธโœจ

  • @yesenia41
    @yesenia41 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +271

    honestly i feel sorry for religious women who stay with their cheating men because itโ€™s โ€œgods planโ€. churches (as an example) sometimes pressure the women to stay with their husbands because โ€œdivorce is a sinโ€ but ignore that adultery is also a sin.

  • @Hannah-zj6fg
    @Hannah-zj6fg 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +155

    Bestie Iโ€™m obsessed with your vibe and professionalism

  • @katiewho44
    @katiewho44 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    I know this was only a 3 part series but I would love love love if u did a break down on ALL these problematic channels in our youtube past ๐Ÿ˜† that would be amazingโคโค

  • @justkidding2001
    @justkidding2001 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +677

    I feel like Austin has something to learn from Shay... Like at least Shay is willing to own up and grow from his mistakes and cheating scandal unlike Austin

    • @saraha.1336
      @saraha.1336 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

      he not cheating, their relationship is fake

    • @MarisolPerez-jn8cs
      @MarisolPerez-jn8cs 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +17

      @@saraha.1336 how do you know that

    • @h0peipi
      @h0peipi 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +16

      @Aaralyn * LMAOOOO

    • @briannab7293
      @briannab7293 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +21

      Eh, Shay isn't exactly "owning up" to everything. He didn't just cheat. He was an alcoholic who went on a binger on his way to rehab with no care in the world. He created such as toxic environment that his employee literally fled from Idaho. But still has the audacity to go on a twitter rampage not long ago about how trust doesn't to be earned, it's just given. "That's why it's forGIVEness".

    • @meghanhixon3241
      @meghanhixon3241 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      @@briannab7293 I thought he did cheat? Im confused.

  • @tunisiathompson7677
    @tunisiathompson7677 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +217

    He had no tears when he talked about Colette leaving a year ago. I donโ€™t know it just seems like he was hamming it up to the camera. You do a great job breaking things down and your research is impeccable.

    • @sunnydays2278
      @sunnydays2278 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +7

      Yes!! He was trying so hard to push out tears

    • @FlyGemini79
      @FlyGemini79 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      I was waiting to see some type of moisture in his eyes...they didn't even get misty LOL

  • @liliev8270
    @liliev8270 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

    its so crazy because when i was younger i used to love their channel i was obsessed with them i remember being so exited for their christmas vlogs etc. its just so disappointing

  • @milosflaca
    @milosflaca 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +8

    I remember how crazy it was, the concept of the movie "The Truman Show" and now seeing these people doing it voluntarily, it's just really,.. surreal. And I really think that the kids are included as some sort of props And the kids, I assume, can't say no because mommy or daddy wants to record you and they are your parents. It's scary. Also, I loved what you said about Cancel Culture. That's exactly what I think it's wrong about that whole trend.

  • @carolinetrout9559
    @carolinetrout9559 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +1116

    WHEN I HEARD IT WAS 3 MONTHS I THOUGHT IT WASNT EVEN THAT BAD BC MY DAD CHEATED FOR SEVEN YEARS ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ THIS IS AWKWARD

    • @TaymaShine
      @TaymaShine 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +12

      Did your mom know at any point?

    • @whoa2321
      @whoa2321 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +75

      Damn Iโ€™m sorry

    • @ruthlessog9098
      @ruthlessog9098 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +15

      @@TaymaShine obv she did! She just "stayed for the sake of the kid"

    • @TaymaShine
      @TaymaShine 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +47

      @@ruthlessog9098 she might have found out after 7 years u donโ€™t know that

    • @ruthlessog9098
      @ruthlessog9098 3 ๋…„ ์ „

      @@TaymaShine dude are you that dull? No, the mom knew but stayed

  • @eloisehowell2245
    @eloisehowell2245 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +186

    The shaytards raised me. I spent my childhood hiding away from abuse and they made me feel safe. I found their channel in 2011 when I was 9. It breaks my heart that this is how things turned out

  • @krisuler7734
    @krisuler7734 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    I actually hope you continue this series because there are so many other family vlogging channels that are highly problematic like SacconeJolysโ€ฆBram Famโ€ฆGardner squad?(the Gardners lol)โ€ฆFoolyLivingโ€ฆare just the ones Iโ€™m aware of and Iโ€™m sure there are others. I really liked what you said at the end of this video in regards to cancel culture and forcing apologiesโ€ฆVERY well thought out and very well-said. Not many people tend to analyze these things and really think it through the way you did so Iโ€™m glad you voiced those thoughts ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

  • @PinkPartyCat
    @PinkPartyCat 2 ๋…„ ์ „ +12

    I'm so thankful that my parents didn't record everything i did and post it online for the world to see.

  • @mercycakezxox
    @mercycakezxox 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +730

    This might be hard, but can you do a video about how people got away with bad things because they had pretty privilege. Thereโ€™s TONS of tiktokers who done a lot of things but got away with it because theyโ€™re so โ€œcuteโ€ or theyโ€™re so โ€œhotโ€.

    • @bellaF
      @bellaF 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +6

      vouch

    • @thisisafirstnamethisisalas97
      @thisisafirstnamethisisalas97 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +63

      The halo effect and pretty privilege are real and we just ignore it because uwu hot person do no wrong

    • @mollylamb7379
      @mollylamb7379 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +46

      I totally agree that pretty privilege is a huge thing... but then when you take a look at the flip side, specifically with beautiful women, it is also like a trap - think of how society treated Megan Fox! Itโ€™s like a double sided coin, it either helps you or it hurts you, you canโ€™t just ~exist~

    • @valkyrie2832
      @valkyrie2832 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +5

      @@thisisafirstnamethisisalas97 Whatโ€™s the halo effect? Iโ€™ve never heard of that

    • @RK-ep8qy
      @RK-ep8qy 3 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

      @@mollylamb7379 yeah but the way Megan fox was treated would not have happened if she was a man so the flip side is only true to an extent